RE: Shed Of The Week: Volvo 850 T5

RE: Shed Of The Week: Volvo 850 T5

Friday 12th September 2014

Shed Of The Week: Volvo 850 T5

A Shed staple this week, with a manual gearbox and 'original plastic boot liner'. Jackpot.



Funny how easily we forget things that were once momentous. Green Shield stamps, the Sony Walkman, Mr Blobby, English soccer, Mystic Meg - these once-great institutions have all been sadly reduced to nothing more than footnote status in the great Littlewoods shopping catalogue of history.

Too big even for photographs
Too big even for photographs
To that list let us now add the Volvo 850 T-5R. Any young 'uns whose social media device has run out of battery and who therefore find themselves reading this will have no clue about the impact this car had when it was launched in 1995. The standard 850 of 1992-93 marked Volvo's acceptance of the front-wheel drive concept, and the acceptance by many British police forces that it was time to pension off the poor old Senator. The R's 245hp might not seem like much now, but it was a fair old wallop 20 years ago. A variable but always high top end and a nought to 60 time in the low six-second bracket were shocking in the context of a car from the 'wardrobe on wheels' school of design, one that was previously better known for its safety, child friendliness and general beige-osity.

Just 200 T-5Rs were sold in the UK (only 69 of them in yellow, surprisingly: black was the most popular colour, with 108 made, green is the rarest hue, at 23) so they aren't likely to dip below one grand in the foreseeable future, if ever. In truth, the average tightwad Shedman might steer clear of an R anyway. They ripped through front tyres at a rate only superbike owners might consider reasonable. Its 'delta link' rear suspension brought a mild degree of rear-wheel steer and, with 300lb ft of torque on tap from 2,000rpm, a truly bitchin' degree of torque steer. You had to hand it to the Swedes: subtle, the T-5R wasn't.

Did someone say daft track day project?
Did someone say daft track day project?
The straight 850 T5, however, is. And the great news is that examples of this fine machine are still drifting into the Shed dragnet. Delivering a more than acceptable 225hp from its softer-turbo 2.3 in-line five - good for a still-rousing mid-sevens 0-60 - this example presents itself very nicely (leaving aside the faux-prancing horse shields). Not sure if that's the same Olive Green Pearl paint you could specify for the R, but whatever it is, the combination of manly green with pillowy black Volvo leather will never get old.

Buy a T5 for its decent handling, its deep-chested gusto and its unique warble. Don't buy it for a cushy ride or low bills if the wrong things go wrong. One of those is the air-con. If it isn't working (and it's not mentioned in the ad, which could be a sign that it isn't) it might be a busted evaporator, which is potentially a four-figure sum to fix. Check the front wheels for kerbing, as that might be an indicator of knock-on suspension or driveshaft damage.

Owner has a sense of humour at least
Owner has a sense of humour at least
If you really do want to justify those Ferrari-esque badges, there's plenty of scope for tuning. A quick £150 remap is the simplest route to instant gratification. Beyond that you can boost throttle response with a reversed intercooler piping kit and/or a throttle conversion. You can also adjust the wastegate actuator to increase boost pressure and torque lower down the rev range. PHer morgrp reckons he's done this simple job on countless T5s and on three of his own. "Pop off the heat shields, remove the r-clip and disconnect and adjust around 8 to 10 turns," he says. "Re-connect and test, leaving the heat shield off in case you need to make further adjustments. The car will automatically cut the fuel supply if it boosts too hard, so it's safe. If it does cut the fuel, simply disconnect, wind the actuator back a couple of turns and try again." Morgrp does add a word of warning. "Don't run it too long without the heat shields, as the brake lines run above the turbo and can get hot." Wise words there. For extra wisdom, fit later brakes from the V70 to rein in your new-found madness, and a strut brace isn't a bad shout either. Then you can look at venturing boldly into the world of bigger puffers. 16T, 18T or 19T turbos will all do a good job for a reasonable outlay.

Why do people take pictures off road?
Why do people take pictures off road?
With a manual cog-stirrer and the ink still wet on a fresh MOT, this Volvo could deliver the goods for its next owner in more ways than one, especially if the reg number is included for the price. Again, this isn't mentioned in the ad. Having to mine this missing info by contacting the owner is a bit of a pain, but you never know, it could result in a pleasant surprise rather than an unpleasant letdown.

In 2011 another PHer, Ecurie Ecosse, detailed his purchase and experience of a 176K T5 here. He's still got it, and he's still loving it. Read it and be encouraged.

They had the word volvo in ancient Rome, you know. It means 'I roll', something Mrs Shed does a lot, but that's another story.


Here's the ad.

1994, 12month MOT, black leather interior, electric heated seats, cruise control, Manual Petrol Turbo. Lots of history, fantastic to drive. Includes original plastic boot liner.

 

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foxhounduk

Original Poster:

485 posts

179 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Haha love this article. Thanks Tony!
These things have always had that reputation of being an indestructrible tank on wheels, driven by 70 year old pensioners. They hold an almost legendary status. Shame I don't see many around where I live.

rtz62

3,340 posts

154 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Owned one of these, a manual, and both a manual and auto V70.
Personally I found the auto quite sluggish, and it really needs to be manual unless you wan to cruise around in slush-o-matic mode.
Not quite sure on the 'whack up the boost by turning the nut on the actuator' bit, very 'Heath Robinson' and potentially ruinous to the engine I'd suggest.
However, a great shed, albeit with more than it's fair share of naysayers (of whom we will no doubt hear more of in the next few post...?)

J4CKO

41,287 posts

199 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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We had a silver T5 manual Estate when the kids were little, not a sports car by any stretch but a very good car, with a quirk, i.e. the aggressively boosted engine.

Ours is still out there when I last checked, "L471 AFE", it popped up on Ebay listed as "Timewarp" condition. They were very robust, ours never gave any trouble apart from the stabiliser thing on top of the engine, ten minute job.

I would have another, even now, in my mind, Volvo went back the other way after these, they have never recaptured the image these had back in the nineties, maybe it was a one shot deal, i.e. coming to the fore making loony estates after decades of sensible, like Carol Vorderman deciding she is a super vamp and getting all dolled up, now everyone is sick of the sight of her backside and cleavage.

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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That's stiff money for an L reg, needs to be immaculate with the usual trouble spots attended to if it's going to justify that price.

sideways man

1,307 posts

136 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Great shed. One with a 'noisy' exhaust to amplify that 5 pot would tick a lot of boxes smile

B'stard Child

28,324 posts

245 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Perfect Shed Parts Chaser

Saw a whole load of these at a recent show one had reduced space in the rear (build thread in PH readers rides)

Nothing like a labrador!




Edited by B'stard Child on Saturday 13th September 09:14

Snowman23

254 posts

204 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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J4CKO said:
We had a silver T5 manual Estate when the kids were little, not a sports car by any stretch but a very good car, with a quirk, i.e. the aggressively boosted engine.

Ours is still out there when I last checked, "L471 AFE", it popped up on Ebay listed as "Timewarp" condition. They were very robust, ours never gave any trouble apart from the stabiliser thing on top of the engine, ten minute job.

I would have another, even now, in my mind, Volvo went back the other way after these, they have never recaptured the image these had back in the nineties, maybe it was a one shot deal, i.e. coming to the fore making loony estates after decades of sensible, like Carol Vorderman deciding she is a super vamp and getting all dolled up, now everyone is sick of the sight of her backside and cleavage.
Great analogy with Vorderman!

I seem to remember the use of the 850 estate in BTCC had a lot to do with the image in the 90's

I even thought my dad was cool in the mid 90's for having a Laguna, because of the (loose) BTCC connection

kdri155

643 posts

150 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Great shed of the week for me, although I'm a bit biased as I own a 1998 V70 T5 Auto, it's a great car to drive relaxing when you just potter about but press the loud pedal and of it will go much to the surprise of many.

Zedboy1200

814 posts

210 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Enjoyed 50k in one year in a plainer 2.4 manual in the late 90's. A bit of a plodder, but indestructible. Kids loved irritating tailgaters from seats 6&7, rear facing in the boot .... Great memories.

grumpy52

5,565 posts

165 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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I have a S70 T5 auto with few tweaks ,, It's strange that a tweaked ECU not only gives more BHP more torque and an improved response from the auto box it's also more economical in normal driving (but single digit mpg if used to its full potential on back roads ).
Its quick comfortable roomy and can be quite economical .

MrTree

139 posts

165 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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I love these old battleships i had one that looked exactly the same with a Rica Remap and biege interior it went like the clappers and sounded amazing aswell it had done 257k and never skipped a beat. ive owned 2 C70's 1 S70 3 S60's An ex police V70 all in T5 Guise but the 850 was my favorite. i love the engine and the performance along with the comfort it provides its an all rounder and you can embarras a lot of other machinery out there with this tanks.

foxhounduk

Original Poster:

485 posts

179 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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J4CKO said:
like Carol Vorderman deciding she is a super vamp and getting all dolled up, now everyone is sick of the sight of her backside and cleavage.
LOL FANTASTIC!!

jimi

521 posts

262 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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My Dad had one of these when I was growing up - used to love the Boooooooost!

Dion20vt

252 posts

161 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Good shed! Good examples of These have been dipping under £1k for a while now. Im on my 6th Volvo biggrin

My Evil Twin

457 posts

132 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Tony said:
...truly bhin' degree of torque steer.
love it.cloud9

Axionknight

8,505 posts

134 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Good cars, I hada black T5R for around a year - they are pretty much bullet proof if you give them the usual serivicing TLC, parts are cheap too.

Points to note:

Front ARB drop links are a weak point, but they are a really easy fix and aren't expensive. Don't waste your money on the IPD uprated ones.

PCV system can clog, leave the engine running at idle, pull the dipstick out and if it's smoking like a chimney then the PCV system is likely blocked, it can be a bit trick to sort - you need to take the inlet manifold off (NEVER remove the bottom bolts, the manifold is slotted., parts are about a hundred quid from Volvo. If this isn't sorted it can blow a rear main oil seal and the engine will continuously weep oil, its a minor leak but it'll never go away.

Turbo oil seals can weep, it won't starve the turbo of oil but it'd be best to repalce them - not expensive and a ten minute fix.

Manual gearbox is solid as a rock, autos require good fluid and any second hand purchase would benefit from a flush out - Volvo said these transmissions were sealed for life, don't you believe it.


VolvoT5

4,155 posts

173 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Seems a tad overpriced to me but I guess they are getting rare enough that people fancy their chances at asking a premium. It would have to be absolutely spot on with decent tyres for that price because you can get a tidy newer shaped V70 for not much more.

I've had several T5s, all autos and I never had a problem with the autobox - was much better than the one in the X-type and responds better in sport mode than economy... which makes 0 difference to the fuel consumption which is quite shocking on these cars anyway.

I wouldn't get it remapped at this mileage - just asking for trouble in my experience. But if you do want to risk it you can get a Manual boost controller valve (not a bleed valve) off eBay for £15 and just set it up to 10 PSI for an instant power increase with brutal delivery. Much easier than fking about with the wastegate.






Edited by VolvoT5 on Friday 12th September 10:34

405dogvan

5,326 posts

264 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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I think 850 T5s have bounced in value this year - they've been through the "bought by chavs and eejits" phase and have been whittled-down by being pimped and crashed so the survivors will prosper!

Those which remain are holding or gaining value - 'R' models (esp estates - esp manuals) are definately on the up-and-up - it's hard to imagine a tidy one kept in reasonable nick losing a penny of your purchase price (tho you might have to be patient to resell it)

That means they're not sheds of course - shedding this might be foolish, even...

pSyCoSiS

3,581 posts

204 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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I had a burgundy Auto one of these about a year ago.

It was my first Volvo, and an itch I had watched to scratch since I was a kid and saw these in the BTCC.

It was a 1995 M Reg with 225k miles on the clock. The leather still felt solid and everything worked as it should.

Torque steer was funny when the boost kicked in. And it was a good all round package, which returned around 28mpg on mixed driving.

It had Macpherson adjustable suspension on the rear - was this standard on all of the estates, or an optional extra?

s m

23,164 posts

202 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Article said:
The R's 245hp might not seem like much now, but it was a fair old wallop 20 years ago. A variable but always high top end and a nought to 60 time in the low six-second bracket were shocking in the context of a car from the 'wardrobe on wheels' school of design,
Low 6s?

Did they seriously get the power down that quick in a timed test?