Objecting to proposed speed humps?

Objecting to proposed speed humps?

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onyx39

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11,109 posts

149 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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My local area is plagued by speed humps, they are a pain in the arse negotiating in the MG, with the exception of one road.
The council have given until the 3rd October for objections, but I suspect it's a foregone conclusion,
Any thoughts on whether it can be stopped?


elanfan

5,516 posts

226 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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You could try noise nuisance, you could try getting neighbours together on this - the noise of people accelerating between them and the impact when hit at speed.

There was a case in the press where a guy got his work jcb and dug up the one outside his house.

Argue they don't work - position a normal saloon car correctly and they hardly make any difference.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

127 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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elanfan said:
There was a case in the press where a guy got his work jcb and dug up the one outside his house.
And, I would imagine, got done for criminal damage as a result!!
I wouldn't advise this OP!

emmaT2014

1,860 posts

115 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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Tell the council everyone already drives the way they should and nobody goes faster than the limit...I'm sure they will immediately cancel the works as the speed bumps are redundant.
Or do you know otherwise?

herewego

8,814 posts

212 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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These are cushions not humps, you should have no problem with them.

TheAllSeeingPie

865 posts

134 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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herewego said:
These are cushions not humps, you should have no problem with them.
Depends on the facing of them. Some of the newer ones here in Leeds end up nearly kerb-like, not that it stops some of the losers around here.

Maybe petition for a speed camera instead?

Type R Tom

3,859 posts

148 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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I doubt you’d stand much chance of objection on your own; you would need a fair size petition and based on my experience the majority of people want traffic calming outside their houses. I would say around 1 in 50 people want them removed / not installed in the first place.

Also speed cameras have set criteria for installation; chances are your street wouldn’t meet them.

EDIT: Just looked up the road, I would bet the request comes from the school!

onyx39

Original Poster:

11,109 posts

149 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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Type R Tom said:
I doubt you’d stand much chance of objection on your own; you would need a fair size petition and based on my experience the majority of people want traffic calming outside their houses. I would say around 1 in 50 people want them removed / not installed in the first place.

Also speed cameras have set criteria for installation; chances are your street wouldn’t meet them.

EDIT: Just looked up the road, I would bet the request comes from the school!
That's what annoys me.
The only time that traffic calming would actually be needed, is when the kids are arriving or leaving, and at this time, the way the parents park, you can hardly get down the street anyway.
The rest of Owlsmoor has had speed humps since I have lived there, which is in excess of 15 years. I really do not understand why they are needed now.

richie99

1,116 posts

185 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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Lucky the local authority has so much money they don't know what to spend it on. Obviously austerity has not reached Bracknell.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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We had a vote where I used ti live. The "no" were very vocal, come the actual vote hardly anyone bothered either way and the "yes" won with a pitiful turn out. Expect the law of "Meh" when you try to garner any support.

CaptainMorgan

1,454 posts

158 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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herewego said:
These are cushions not humps, you should have no problem with them.
The cushions are worse! At lease with a full width bump the whole car goes up and down. The cushions you have the choice of smashing the underside of your car on them or move left/right and go over with one wheel.

Type R Tom

3,859 posts

148 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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onyx39 said:
That's what annoys me.
The only time that traffic calming would actually be needed, is when the kids are arriving or leaving, and at this time, the way the parents park, you can hardly get down the street anyway.
The rest of Owlsmoor has had speed humps since I have lived there, which is in excess of 15 years. I really do not understand why they are needed now.
richie99 said:
Lucky the local authority has so much money they don't know what to spend it on. Obviously austerity has not reached Bracknell.
This applies to both of you, get on to your councillor if you don’t like something, after all you voted for them! Ask them to justify the decision and the reason for their support of the scheme! Don’t just spout the usual anti LG rubbish.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

182 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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Stop being a spoilsport. Public sector types need schemes like these to justify their well rewarded existence.

Fifteen plus years ago, these things were introduced at great taxpayers' expense widely in my neck of the woods. Despite a careful approach, I cracked the sump on my Montego Turbo depositing some of Mobil 1's finest on the local roads. Soon after, again at great expense, they were all further modified with re-profiled approaches. Apparently, the local Ambulance facility found these calming devices did exactly the opposite to the sick, injured and infirm when Ambulances passed over them. The scars on the things showed much dangerous contact from passing vehicles.

They are still there and two further expensive re-profiling sessions since including one this past summer have further reduced their aggressive stance to such an extent that they may as well not be there any more. So, always in a hurry White Van Man and others such as School run Mum in her monster truck three ton four be four pass over them at speed as though they are not there. Precisely the sort of vehicles which should check their speeds in key areas .. rolleyes

The 200 metre raised platform recently installed on a less used main road must have cost a huge amount to install. Certainly provided jobs for those companies employed to fill the contract. Again, not fit for purpose as so profiled that they may as well not be there.

Mind you, fair doos ...further justification for their well paid jobs as they have saved of lots money by not repairing the vast number of ever wider and deeper pot holes which have appeared in recent years.



aw51 121565

4,771 posts

232 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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onyx39 said:
... I really do not understand why they are needed now.
Why not ask your local councillor, for (s)he and his/her colleagues in your ward will (cynically) be asking for them and have agreed to them.

When we had a 'road safety scheme' proposed for this (small) estate and the next (larger) estate, I went to see the plans at the LA planning office. The people I spoke to there were all "well, the local councillors want this... They don't want that... They have agreed to these plans and this is the scheme". The 'scheme' was funded privately by two developers who were building new houses locally; that the larger of the two went bust half way through building their new build hehe and the LA couldn't 'realistically' get any more funds for this 'road safety scheme' from the other developer hehe meant we got a right half-baked jobbie!! rofl

Anyway, your councillors will have agreed this 'scheme' and there will be a ring-fenced budget for 'road safety' which has to be fully spent by 31/3/15 (or the LA gets less for 'road safety schemes' in 2015/6 wink ) so I suspect scratchchin this proposed scheme will go ahead frown .

Going on your local LA's website and particularly the "democracy" pages (look for "council meetings and minutes" or it might be under something like "local area board meetings") will reveal all... vomit

Slidingpillar

761 posts

135 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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herewego said:
These are cushions not humps, you should have no problem with them.
Try driving a vintage Morgan over them. Some near me require the speed down to about 5mph, which as most cars can take them at 25 are blooming dangerous.

onyx39

Original Poster:

11,109 posts

149 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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aw51 121565 said:
onyx39 said:
... I really do not understand why they are needed now.
Why not ask your local councillor, for (s)he and his/her colleagues in your ward will (cynically) be asking for them and have agreed to them.

When we had a 'road safety scheme' proposed for this (small) estate and the next (larger) estate, I went to see the plans at the LA planning office. The people I spoke to there were all "well, the local councillors want this... They don't want that... They have agreed to these plans and this is the scheme". The 'scheme' was funded privately by two developers who were building new houses locally; that the larger of the two went bust half way through building their new build hehe and the LA couldn't 'realistically' get any more funds for this 'road safety scheme' from the other developer hehe meant we got a right half-baked jobbie!! rofl

Anyway, your councillors will have agreed this 'scheme' and there will be a ring-fenced budget for 'road safety' which has to be fully spent by 31/3/15 (or the LA gets less for 'road safety schemes' in 2015/6 wink ) so I suspect scratchchin this proposed scheme will go ahead frown .

Going on your local LA's website and particularly the "democracy" pages (look for "council meetings and minutes" or it might be under something like "local area board meetings") will reveal all... vomit
Sadly my locally councilor is a corrupt ahole. The block of flats where I live is served by a road which has a parking problem.
I spent a year liasing with the local council to try to get "waiting restrictions" imposed so that the road would always be passable ( we had a fire in the block a year previously and the Fire Brigade could only just get through)
The council carried out inspections and put a motion forward which was vetoed by the local councilor at the last minute.
He was worried that the problem would only shift elsewhere.
He lives in the next street.
He will clearly be supporting it.

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

162 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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On a side note, I fking hate speedbumps mad

I'm moving home soon and I'll be living at the bottom of a road with about 15 huge road wide speed bumps on it. They re-surfaced the road and put new even bigger speed bumps in furious it genuinely put me off moving there and I looked for alternatives purely because of the speed bumps.

Huff

3,140 posts

190 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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MGJohn said:
Apparently, the local Ambulance facility found these calming devices did exactly the opposite to the sick, injured and infirm when Ambulances passed over them.
This is an excellent point, and one I've used in getting a council not to install such things on a new development - getting teh local ambulance trust to write and state their objections. (admittedly this was on approach to a commuity hospital!). Speed bumps and cushions should be deprecated on busy routes for this reason - they are especially poor when conveying people with suspected neck or spinal injuries.

Matthen

1,285 posts

150 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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aw51 121565 said:
Why not ask your local councillor...
I asked my local councillor why a local speed limit needed reducing from 40 --> 30, despite there having been 0 accidents in the last 40 years.

I was told the reasonably new estate (20 ish years ago) wanted the limit reduced so there kids could cross the road to get to school.

I asked how they'd got to school previously, and whether or not the limit was present when the parents purchased the houses (knowing full well it had), and why the vast majority of users of that road should be effected because of there lack of foresight, and further, why the limit had to be reduced for 24/7, when school time is typically 4/5.

They did it anyway. Nothing to do with the fact that her house is in that estate of course. .

PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

175 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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Drive around the area, take pictures of every pothole, dirty/broken road signs, rubbish/litter, list council services that have been cut, give it to them and ask why they have money to spend on the humps.