The Official 2014 Singapore GP Thread ***Spoilers***
Discussion
bullies180 said:
ash73 said:
How are Honda/McLaren going to convince a top-3 driver to join their team? It can't be an easy sell, or putting it another way it's going to be expensive.
It's mclarenWhether or not that is enough to attract the Top Tier, I do not know.
McLaren could do a lot worse than retain Jenson-san. He's quick, personable, and Japanese-friendly.
JonRB said:
McLaren could do a lot worse than retain Jenson-san. He's quick, personable, and Japanese-friendly.
True; he's the ultimate corporate driver - smooth, good-looking, great at publicity events, Japanese-friendly.........unfortunately, he's not going to scrap on the track and get you every point and he's only really effective if the car is exactly how he likes it.He's probably not even top-5 now, so I can't think they'll keep him.
Gaz. said:
The usually perpetually happy Grosjean is starting to lose his rag now:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/09/20/furious-gros...
If only he had a friend in a high place at mclaren, he might be in with a chance when the Alonso move inevitably falls through http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/09/20/furious-gros...
Video of Grosjean here: https://vid.me/SXI
'onesly!
If he does move on I reckon Lotus will take another pay driver, maybe a rookie ?
'onesly!
If he does move on I reckon Lotus will take another pay driver, maybe a rookie ?
longblackcoat said:
JonRB said:
McLaren could do a lot worse than retain Jenson-san. He's quick, personable, and Japanese-friendly.
True; he's the ultimate corporate driver - smooth, good-looking, great at publicity events, Japanese-friendly.........unfortunately, he's not going to scrap on the track and get you every point and he's only really effective if the car is exactly how he likes it.He's probably not even top-5 now, so I can't think they'll keep him.
The same Jenson who is in front of K Mag?
I really cant understand the thinking,
Alonso gets average results in average car = Hero
Button gets average results in absolute dog of a car = washed up & finished
WTF?
I also struggle to understand the K Mag hype, he hasnt exactly smashed JB into the weeds and showed great racecraft has he?
Lincsblokey said:
The same Jenson who everyone said would be destroyed by Lewis, Would be beaten by Perez etc etc?
The same Jenson who is in front of K Mag?
I really cant understand the thinking,
Alonso gets average results in average car = Hero
Button gets average results in absolute dog of a car = washed up & finished
WTF?
I also struggle to understand the K Mag hype, he hasnt exactly smashed JB into the weeds and showed great racecraft has he?
that's a bit simplistic...The same Jenson who is in front of K Mag?
I really cant understand the thinking,
Alonso gets average results in average car = Hero
Button gets average results in absolute dog of a car = washed up & finished
WTF?
I also struggle to understand the K Mag hype, he hasnt exactly smashed JB into the weeds and showed great racecraft has he?
JB's not crap, but he's not exactly red hot either.
On his day, when the cars working with him, he's as good as anyone, problem is unless his car is 100% he's very ordinary.
Yes, on points, Lewis did not blow him away, but the points total does not really tell the story, much like Lewis is way behind Nico this year, but I don't think anybody would try and argue that Lewis is the better driver and his points count does not really reflect this.
col68 said:
JB's moaning has got a lot worse in the last few races......I think he already knows he's out the door.
Quite the opposite - my point is that he *doesn't* moan. He has a completely awful quali and an interviewer such as Pinkie asks him what went wrong and he non-committally shrugs it off.
I think Jensen has a truckload of experience that a team and rookie drivers could benefit from. I think there is a role for him after his driving career is over working with junior drivers as a mentor or in a team doing a similar sort of job.
The thing I don't understand is his attitude has been a bit flippant over the last couple of years, how many post race interviews have we seen where he says something like "the car isn't where we want it, no idea whats wrong" - ok he might be being honest, which is fine but he doesn't appear to be too concerned about it, I kind of think he should be and more than that be able to work on it with the engineers.
This year its struck me that he's had a "I'll show up, get somewhere in the top ten and that'll do" type attitude. I don't doubt that McLarens inability to produce a race winning car has demotivated him, but it could be a lot worse - look at what Grosjean is dealing with!
He's very smart and media savvy, hence he's got a "nice guy" image, I think he can as as difficult as anyone else.
On another note red bull spy just posted this on twitter, should be titled as "F1 2014" I think
The thing I don't understand is his attitude has been a bit flippant over the last couple of years, how many post race interviews have we seen where he says something like "the car isn't where we want it, no idea whats wrong" - ok he might be being honest, which is fine but he doesn't appear to be too concerned about it, I kind of think he should be and more than that be able to work on it with the engineers.
This year its struck me that he's had a "I'll show up, get somewhere in the top ten and that'll do" type attitude. I don't doubt that McLarens inability to produce a race winning car has demotivated him, but it could be a lot worse - look at what Grosjean is dealing with!
He's very smart and media savvy, hence he's got a "nice guy" image, I think he can as as difficult as anyone else.
On another note red bull spy just posted this on twitter, should be titled as "F1 2014" I think
Crafty_ said:
The thing I don't understand is his attitude has been a bit flippant over the last couple of years, how many post race interviews have we seen where he says something like "the car isn't where we want it, no idea whats wrong" - ok he might be being honest, which is fine but he doesn't appear to be too concerned about it, I kind of think he should be and more than that be able to work on it with the engineers.
This year its struck me that he's had a "I'll show up, get somewhere in the top ten and that'll do" type attitude.
Yes, that's what I was getting at. Rightly or wrongly, that's how he comes across at the moment. This year its struck me that he's had a "I'll show up, get somewhere in the top ten and that'll do" type attitude.
Scuffers said:
talking of which, did they ever say what (in detail) Lewis's problem was at the start?
In the BBC interview with him after the race in the media pen bit he was explaining how he has a button to press that did [something I can't remember, maybe matching revs with bite point or something] that didn't work on the way to the grid, it didn't work at the start either so he just nailed it and spun the wheels.Gassing Station | Formula 1 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff