No jews here kid hoppit

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bitchstewie

51,068 posts

210 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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It's a bit surreal really isn't it? Sports Direct forced to issue a statement that it isn't company policy not to allow Jews into their stores - I mean did anyone really expect it to be company policy?

gpo746

3,397 posts

130 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Had it been say a Police Commissioner type cover up cling on as long as possible thingey they could have said:

What the guard said but has been misconstrued due to the noise levels at the time was that Sports Direct did not like to admit more than one shool person at a time as they had been the unfortunate victims of theft"
Going on "this policy is simply the same as that which is applied to sweet shops up and down the country"
Mr Iqbal apologies if he was incorrectly heard when he said this

DSLiverpool

14,725 posts

202 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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gpo746 said:
There could be a perfectly good explanation for this.
Like they err errr
oh ye there isn't one

Edited by gpo746 on Tuesday 16th September 18:59
Kids asked the guard if they sold juice - guard said "no juice in here" courtesy of Michael McIntyre

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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gpo746 said:
There could be a perfectly good explanation for this.
Like they err errr
oh ye there isn't one

Edited by gpo746 on Tuesday 16th September 18:59
There is, but it wouldn't make a good news story.

How about, boys from a particular school have become a shoplifting problem, security guard bans them as a result. The rest is obvious. Kids stitch him up knowing the power of PC.

league67

1,878 posts

203 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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It's not going to be long before some bright spark from 'Israeli' thread comes along with an idea that security guard must be a Hamas member or, at least, supporter. Victim card has been played once again. Must be really sad life going around and looking to be offended. As for people complaining about anti-Semitism in North London, until recently I used to spend a lot of time in Golders Green, not once have I seen any abuse directed towards anyone because of their nationality/religion/origin.

Never underestimate Daily Mail's ability to get intended audience frothing. Always funny.

Murph7355

37,683 posts

256 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Blib said:
I call this 'coach crash syndrome'. For weeks after a major coach crash, any coach incident, anywhere in the World, is reported by the media.

This is newsworthy because of when it happened, not because it is particularly unusual. These things have happened since Jews arrived on these shores. It just happens to be a time of tension in the Middle East, with Israel under the spotlight. So, this is newsworthy on a national level.

I live in North London. These incidents are relatively common. They are reported by the local rags. This time the Mail picked it up.
But there wasn't a coach crash.

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Meoricin

2,880 posts

169 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Oakey said:
Meoricin said:
Well, which of these is the assumption we should be making - the more likely one, which results in a telling off and a kid having to sit on the stairs, or the far less likely one in which a man loses his job?

There's apparently no evidence bar what a kid told his wealthy lawyer father, and his father has decided to use his money/influence to lash out - I think it's pathetic the number of people who are taking a story which could easily have been fabricated by a child at face value, and condemning a man who has already lost his job with no evidence of any wrongdoing.
Righto. So the kids are bare faced liars who were somehow up to no good and his father being a lawyer and wealthy somehow factors into this story being bullst.
I didn't say that - I said that without further evidence, we shouldn't be condemning the guy when there is a (more) believable alternative.

The father's status as a wealthy lawyer makes him more likely to be able to kick up a fuss vs the average joe (certainly his angry phone call to SD will have carried far more weight than the average angry member of the public)

I suggest you step back from your anger at the alleged comments, and look at the situation as it has been presented - one word vs another.

If I claimed you'd said something terrible and racist, would you be happy for everyone to believe me based on my word alone, and think it was reasonable to suffer the consequences?

BGARK

5,493 posts

246 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Pappa Lurve said:
Ever walked past a group of them with a mate wearing a yamika (skull cap for those not in the know!)?! The abuse was absolutely vile.
Surely if you wear silly clothing you might expect some reaction, I am not suggesting harsh abuse is acceptable but if I walked around dressed as a unicorn I am sure people might snigger.

The British are very tolerant, we are also the best nation I know on the planet of for taking the pi55 out of "everyone", I suppose it takes a couple of generations before the same sense of humour is adopted by those with different cultures, or should we change to suit others with weird customs living in this country?

ray von

2,914 posts

252 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Grumfutock said:
ray von said:
Exactly, though I don't think you need the Devils advocate, how many kids have been perhaps doing something they shouldn't and made stuff up just to avoid getting into trouble.
Also what's with all this wow WOW st we get it you're deeply offended by an as yet unproved story.
I'll give you another one Sol Campbell was on the news yesterday after being racially abused in Hexham of all places. Someone walked past him and said censored you censoredcensored they didn't really, they allegedly said 'nice tan'
wow just WOW rolleyes
The quote is "wow, just fecking WOW!" If you are going to take the piss over it and show your fake shock at my post at least pay me the respect of posting correctly and accurately please!

Until it is PROVEN to be inaccurate or false then I will assume the story is true based on factual events if thats ok with you. No doubt this one is also fictitious and completely made up? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2757112/Co...

Edited by Grumfutock on Tuesday 16th September 09:33
Don't flatter yourself. I actually misquoted the other guy biggrin

King Herald

23,501 posts

216 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Rovinghawk said:
Devil's advocate here:

How do we know that it actually happened? Before we get outraged, surely some proof would be helpful?
I'm curious how you actually recognize a Jew? Not even sure if they are a race, a religion, or an ethnicity.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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King Herald said:
Rovinghawk said:
Devil's advocate here:

How do we know that it actually happened? Before we get outraged, surely some proof would be helpful?
I'm curious how you actually recognize a Jew? Not even sure if they are a race, a religion, or an ethnicity.
The school uniform might have helped.

VeeDubBigBird

440 posts

129 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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King Herald said:
I'm curious how you actually recognize a Jew? Not even sure if they are a race, a religion, or an ethnicity.
Both youngsters attend Yavneh College, a Jewish secondary school in the town, and were wearing their school uniform at the time.

I would like to hear more about any evidence against the Security Guard and the incident. However i think SD have taken possibly the best action to help protect the guard at the expense of their own reputation.

Pappa Lurve

3,827 posts

282 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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BGARK said:
Pappa Lurve said:
Ever walked past a group of them with a mate wearing a yamika (skull cap for those not in the know!)?! The abuse was absolutely vile.
Surely if you wear silly clothing you might expect some reaction, I am not suggesting harsh abuse is acceptable but if I walked around dressed as a unicorn I am sure people might snigger.

The British are very tolerant, we are also the best nation I know on the planet of for taking the pi55 out of "everyone", I suppose it takes a couple of generations before the same sense of humour is adopted by those with different cultures, or should we change to suit others with weird customs living in this country?
A snigger is one thing, being told that for example, once they had gassed the "rag heads" they would be back for the Jews and chucking a coffee on him, is not exactly the same thing.

And Jews have been here for roughly 1,000 years, hardly just a generation. The brits are, on the whole, very ambivalent to others as indeed it should be. Simply live and let live but don;t for a moment think there are not significant issues here or that they are increasing.

And for the chap who lived in golders green and saw no issues.... ok.... really? It is not a huge problem by any means but it happens far more than perhaps you realise.

Pappa Lurve

3,827 posts

282 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Purity14 said:
grumbledoak said:
Yeah, kids never make stuff up to save themselves getting in trouble with their parents! And Jews never play the 'race' card. And the Daily Mail reporter just happened to be there and witnessed it, it wasn't phoned in, oh no. And, and...
Nice shoes.
Or of course it actually happened as witnessed by several people, not limited to just Yavnah kids or indeed Jews.

Point is, SD did exactly the right thing to fire the guy. Same response no matter who had unilaterally decided to exclude.

Qwert1e

545 posts

118 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Guam said:
I would bet the facts are largely correct and the episode took place as stated.
Did you miss "plebgate"?

King Herald

23,501 posts

216 months

Wednesday 17th September 2014
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VeeDubBigBird said:
King Herald said:
I'm curious how you actually recognize a Jew? Not even sure if they are a race, a religion, or an ethnicity.
Both youngsters attend Yavneh College, a Jewish secondary school in the town, and were wearing their school uniform at the time.

I would like to hear more about any evidence against the Security Guard and the incident. However i think SD have taken possibly the best action to help protect the guard at the expense of their own reputation.
So with no uniform on it is impossible to distinguish between, say, a catholic and a Jew?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 17th September 2014
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blindswelledrat said:
... you are a massive girl ...
Sorry but hehe

rpguk

4,464 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th September 2014
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Guam said:
No I didnt and wholly irrelevant to this discussion, you cannot compare the two, as stated earlier companies dont move to instant dismissal without solid evidence of serious wrongdoing. Anything less would be insane from a corporate perspective, which is why I am prepared to accept the report as is.
That's not true at all. This guy was agency and the newer revisions to employment law have made it much harder to get a payout in any case.

Getting rid of this bloke was a nobrainer evidence or not.

As it is there is a PHer who seems to have insider knowledge of the incident which backs up the story as stated and I don't doubt stupid people sometimes say stupid things so I don't carry any particular doubt this did happen but I don't think Sports Directs response tells us too much.

Justin Cyder

12,624 posts

149 months

Wednesday 17th September 2014
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Even so, unless he's been with his company for more then two years, there isn't much of an issue provided an investigation corroborates the issue & even if he has, you have to set it against the value of the SD contract to the firm. Insane is emotive & doesn't come into it.

jshell

11,006 posts

205 months

Wednesday 17th September 2014
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GTIR said:
Guam said:
blindswelledrat said:
Can't you even read? I'm not saying it isn't true.
I am saying that you are a massive girl reading one story and believing it means that our country "is becoming" st because of one idiot.
There is, and always have been tens and thousands of utter idiots in the UK. One story from one st tabloid about one idiot amounts to exactly nothing in the grand scheme of things and yet you are wailing like a smacked baby about the end of our society
Yes thanks I can and you ran straight to a personal insult stating I was thick, happy to put my IQ score against yours anytime pal.
As I said you can fk right off smile

And yet more insults, keep it up you just demonstrate what an utter tt you are thumbup
>confused<

Insults but with smileys.

Does not compute.
Are you saying they just need to fk each other and get it out of the way?