Not good news for the new Tvr

Not good news for the new Tvr

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TOV!E

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2,016 posts

233 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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A real shame after all the recent good news.

http://www.thelotusforums.com/latest-news/lotus-ca...

Do you think this will spell bad news for the TVR start up?????

MADMAX2

2,336 posts

193 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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No .. Stop being pessimistic Lotus have known this for years

TOV!E

Original Poster:

2,016 posts

233 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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MADMAX2 said:
No .. Stop being pessimistic Lotus have known this for years
fk me I ask a simple question.....

Edited by TOV!E on Friday 19th September 11:00

MADMAX2

2,336 posts

193 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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TOV!E said:
MADMAX2 said:
No .. Stop being pessimistic Lotus have known this for years
fk me I ask a simple question.....

Edited by TOV!E on Friday 19th September 11:00


And I gave you my honest opinion

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

209 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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TOV!E said:
A real shame after all the recent good news.

http://www.thelotusforums.com/latest-news/lotus-ca...

Do you think this will spell bad news for the TVR start up?????
I don't think so Lotus have had delusional management for the last 10 or so years. Dreams of mixing it with Ferrari and Lamborghini when they were just a bigger TVR. I mean what sane car company announces 5 new cars to be built in the future at one time? yikes
They couldn't have destroyed the market for their own cars more effectively if all Elises on the road all spontaneously self combusted at the same time.

My guess would be that the only thing that's kept them going has been the consultancy work with massive over bloat and over capacity for outdated cars that haven't had proper focus because of the misguided ambition (arrogance)

I'm surprised it's taken so long frankly.

Milky400

1,960 posts

177 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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That Are just refocusing there efforts. I would imagine that the Paris motor show is extremely costly, and maybe it doesn't return a huge amount. Who knows? Not us that's for sure so stop scaremongering and get on with it. The only people that know are the few a Lotus that know. We will in time find out I'm sure

As for TVR, our cars are far superior so no need to worry boys.. Any update on that front?

TOV!E

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2,016 posts

233 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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V8 GRF said:
I don't think so Lotus have had delusional management for the last 10 or so years. Dreams of mixing it with Ferrari and Lamborghini when they were just a bigger TVR. I mean what sane car company announces 5 new cars to be built in the future at one time? yikes
They couldn't have destroyed the market for their own cars more effectively if all Elises on the road all spontaneously self combusted at the same time.

My guess would be that the only thing that's kept them going has been the consultancy work with massive over bloat and over capacity for outdated cars that haven't had proper focus because of the misguided ambition (arrogance)

I'm surprised it's taken so long frankly.
At last someone who makes sense

PuffsBack

2,428 posts

224 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Looking back now the appointment of Dany Bahar does look a bit silly. He's a brand and marketing guy, and by all accounts a very good one. His time at Ferrari was very successful and he did a great job there. Problem is Ferrari is a built on a brand not the engineering. Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with their engineering but your average Ferrari buyer really doesn't case about the engineering, he/she is buying into the 'brand' and the halo that goes with it. Lotus is completely the opposite, its an engineering company, and its average customers do care about the engineering (or perceived quality of it) Bahar tried the same trick he tried at Ferrari and unsurprisingly it was no where near as successful.


TOV!E

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2,016 posts

233 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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MADMAX2 said:


And I gave you my honest opinion
Yes you did, and it's useless as normal hehehehe

MADMAX2

2,336 posts

193 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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V8 GRF

7,294 posts

209 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Popped out for a bit.....have missed a bit of an old-fashioned PH ruck? biggrin

alex_gray255

6,313 posts

204 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Lotus were also cutting a 3rd of their staff worldwide, so not surprising really.

They had a dealership meeting last week to announce a few things.

Milky400

1,960 posts

177 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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There F1 team has reduced losses to £6m.... All sounds promising for them!!!!!!


Mad Mark

2,345 posts

231 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Am I the only one to notice that the clip was written July 2012. So just a bit out of date!
And as said before how does it relate to TVR? Or am I missing something?

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

209 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Mad Mark said:
Am I the only one to notice that the clip was written July 2012. So just a bit out of date!
And as said before how does it relate to TVR? Or am I missing something?
Whoever linked to that in the Lotus Forum hasn't noticed it's old news.

This however is the recent news that I assume they meant to link to:

http://www.pistonheads.com/lotus/default.asp?story...

The connection that I assumed TOV!E was trying to make was that it might be a reflection of the current state of low volume specialist car market.

I suggest not as I stated above. TVR will be far more boutique, niche and low volume with non of the bloat, huge debt and overhead that Lotus is currently suffering from.

MADMAX2

2,336 posts

193 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Loads
Of
Trouble
Usually
Serious

RichB

51,430 posts

283 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Is something happening with TVR?

wongthecorrupter

2,382 posts

170 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Christ , no surprise. Do lotus actually make a good looking car you would want to buy. That Europa thing looks like jap crap to me.

PuffsBack

2,428 posts

224 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Hmmm I do like the Evora, quite fancy a 2+2 in place of the Cerbera. Especially as I don't live to far from the factory so sort of got a sentimental link

T66ORA

3,474 posts

256 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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PuffsBack said:
Looking back now the appointment of Dany Bahar does look a bit silly.
I dont know