Is it legal to disable DRL's

Is it legal to disable DRL's

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Hol

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8,412 posts

200 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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I hate DRL's as I think they look like some form of chav neon.

My new car has DRL's and you cannot turn them off without hooking up a diagnostic machine and disabling them. Even though the car has auto lights with an optional early setting.


My question is, IS it legal to disable them, in light of recent European law?

The concern would be with some idiot not simply looking and pulling out in daylight ( I had this a few years back) but using the lack of DRL's as an subsequent 'excuse'.



Opinion probably is that it's OK, but those pesky Belgian civil servants can be gits.


covboy

2,576 posts

174 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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A bit O/T but I’m still in the last century re DRL Question – When using DRL only – does the dash light up ? and should the rears be on?

Reason I ask – as the mornings are getting darker there seems to be an increase in cars appearing to be running without lights (or rear lights at least)

Mr E

21,616 posts

259 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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covboy said:
A bit O/T but I’m still in the last century re DRL Question – When using DRL only – does the dash light up ? and should the rears be on?
No and no on mine

SteBrown91

2,385 posts

129 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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Hol said:
I hate DRL's as I think they look like some form of chav neon.

My new car has DRL's and you cannot turn them off without hooking up a diagnostic machine and disabling them. Even though the car has auto lights with an optional early setting.


My question is, IS it legal to disable them, in light of recent European law?

The concern would be with some idiot not simply looking and pulling out in daylight ( I had this a few years back) but using the lack of DRL's as an subsequent 'excuse'.



Opinion probably is that it's OK, but those pesky Belgian civil servants can be gits.
DRLs were only a legal requirement to be fitted to vehicles type approved from Feb 2012 onwards. If the car was type approved before this date, then you can just switch them off no problem.

If after this date, I am unsure whether they have to (legally) still be enabled after the vehicle has been registered or not.

LoonR1

26,988 posts

177 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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Hol said:
I hate DRL's as I think they look like some form of chav neon.

My new car has DRL's and you cannot turn them off without hooking up a diagnostic machine and disabling them. Even though the car has auto lights with an optional early setting.


My question is, IS it legal to disable them, in light of recent European law?

The concern would be with some idiot not simply looking and pulling out in daylight ( I had this a few years back) but using the lack of DRL's as an subsequent 'excuse'.



Opinion probably is that it's OK, but those pesky Belgian civil servants can be gits.
That has nothing at all to do with the legality side of things that you're asking. An insurance claim is a civil matter and that excuse is unlikely to hold up as firstly the majority of vehicles don't have DRLs. Secondly, the argument is that you saw the vehicle and chose to pull out on it because it didn't have DRLs on. No chance of that holding up

Stoofa

958 posts

168 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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If the vehicle legally requires them, then there will be no mechanism to disable them. My Octy vRS has them fitted, however as the vehicle had received type approval a long time before the February 2012 there is a simply way of switching them off.
As far as I'm aware DRL's are not part of the current MOT test, so I'm sure you "could" disable them on a car where they are legally required.

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

207 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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No rules from dvsa (formally vosa) re drl's so you are safe to deactivate them for now

fangio

988 posts

234 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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Obligatory fitment, no obligation to use the revolting things....

Hol

Original Poster:

8,412 posts

200 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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I used to think people treated them as the new 'front fog lights' and switched them on, because they chose to - not because they had no choice.



It's dangerous how many people seem to think their rear lights are on, just because the dash is lit up.



Edited by Hol on Monday 22 September 11:08

covboy

2,576 posts

174 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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Hol said:
It's dangerous how many people seem to think their rear lights are on, just because the dash is lit up.



Edited by Hol on Monday 22 September 11:08
Hence my earlier question

ReedyDS3

353 posts

176 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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The dash lights up on many cars, without having external lights on and have done since before there were DRL's... Idiots are still idiots!

Glosphil

4,355 posts

234 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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ReedyDS3 said:
The dash lights up on many cars, without having external lights on and have done since before there were DRL's... Idiots are still idiots!
My previous car (2005 Civic Type-S) always had dash lit up but did not have DRLs. My current 2012 Octavia vRS has DRLs (can be disabled) but the dash does not light up until main lights switched on.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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I can turn them off in my Audi smile

Gavin0478

473 posts

141 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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DRL's are also used as sidelights on many cars that they are fitted to.

C. Grimsley

1,364 posts

195 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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I can turn them off in my 208

Carl

fatboy b

9,493 posts

216 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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New laws on their way mean the back has to be on too. My new XF does this. Also TPMS vavles will be law on new cars too.

ch108

1,127 posts

133 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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ReedyDS3 said:
The dash lights up on many cars, without having external lights on and have done since before there were DRL's... Idiots are still idiots!
My 2006 Astra's dash lights up when the ignition is switched on. The only difference when the lights are switched on is a green symbol on the dash display.

I seen an Audi the other day with only one working DRL. I wonder how much that would cost to repair? Probably a new headlamp unit. And would the police stop you if you have a faulty DRL?

shoehorn

686 posts

143 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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fatboy b said:
Also TPMS vavles will be law on new cars too.
Tpm systems are moving/have moved away in general from wheel mounted monitors and on to using wheel speed and suspension height sensors for such info.

Cyder

7,053 posts

220 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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fatboy b said:
New laws on their way mean the back has to be on too. My new XF does this. Also TPMS vavles will be law on new cars too.
News to me, can you share your source? I haven't seen anything in the lighting reg update proposals yet relating to rear lamps having to come on with DRL.

Edited by Cyder on Monday 22 September 19:47

Cyder

7,053 posts

220 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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ch108 said:
I seen an Audi the other day with only one working DRL. I wonder how much that would cost to repair? Probably a new headlamp unit. And would the police stop you if you have a faulty DRL?
Most DRL's inside the headlamp can't be services so would have to replace the whole unit. If it wasn't covered under warranty I'd guess £800-£1000 to replace an LED or Xenon headlamp with DRL.