Is it about to get busy on here? Blatchat to close...
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I am (or should that be was) a regular user of blatchat & will miss it greatly. Joined the club when I got my roadsport kit back in 2007 & 5800 plus posts later I still enjoyed the forum.
The new one is taking some getting used to. It's hard on the eyes, such an unrelenting white screen.
I hope it can be be tweaked to improve the way it works & looks.
I often look at PH but don't often bother posting, it may well become busier on here from now on.
Blatchat has always been a good way of keeping in touch & meeting for a Kent blat for example.
The Southern Kit Car Club seem pretty busy & credit to Mark for starting his own forum.
Martin J.
The new one is taking some getting used to. It's hard on the eyes, such an unrelenting white screen.
I hope it can be be tweaked to improve the way it works & looks.
I often look at PH but don't often bother posting, it may well become busier on here from now on.
Blatchat has always been a good way of keeping in touch & meeting for a Kent blat for example.
The Southern Kit Car Club seem pretty busy & credit to Mark for starting his own forum.
Martin J.
james7 said:
What was the cost of the new website?
The last figure I heard was in excess of £30K - I understand that figure went up...It was the fact this was not openly discussed before commitment to the website/forum re-do that caused me to not renew my membership - after nearly 30 years of being a club member, that was something I just couldn't accept... and was the reason for 7-DNA, as it was approx £30 Quid to do.
BigCol said:
Me too... would see such a comment as a great compliment.
re kit car... I (sort of) take umbrage at the car I built being so described as I associate such things with scrap donor cars rather than entirely new bits and designs not based on a car conjured up by one of the UK's greatest ever car designers... but hey, it was a kit and it is a car!
My Seven (a 1996 Classic SE) has a number of donor parts - provided through the factory. So your distinction doesn't really apply to all Caterhams. The original Classic series used refurbished Ital axles and Escort gear boxes.re kit car... I (sort of) take umbrage at the car I built being so described as I associate such things with scrap donor cars rather than entirely new bits and designs not based on a car conjured up by one of the UK's greatest ever car designers... but hey, it was a kit and it is a car!
Eugene7 said:
The last figure I heard was in excess of £30K - I understand that figure went up...
That sounds about right to me to be honest. There's a lot of functionality on the site including membership, forum, profiles, news and events, member blogs and no doubt other things. Plus the design of the site too. Web sites aren't cheap when they're bespoke builds.If it was 'bespoke' I'd (kind of) agree - but it's not, it's Drupal modules...
Just for fun, I actually do a number of websites for mates and local pubs, etc, as well as 7-DNA, and believe me, it's not at all £30K's worth in that new website - even allowing for the migration of data from the old to the new.
And a couple good friend of mine really do do website for a living - one doing a lot of Drupal - and both have commented on how they would have loved that contract for that price!!!
Just for fun, I actually do a number of websites for mates and local pubs, etc, as well as 7-DNA, and believe me, it's not at all £30K's worth in that new website - even allowing for the migration of data from the old to the new.
And a couple good friend of mine really do do website for a living - one doing a lot of Drupal - and both have commented on how they would have loved that contract for that price!!!
Eugene7 said:
If it was 'bespoke' I'd (kind of) agree - but it's not, it's Drupal modules...
Just for fun, I actually do a number of websites for mates and local pubs, etc, as well as 7-DNA, and believe me, it's not at all £30K's worth in that new website - even allowing for the migration of data from the old to the new.
And a couple good friend of mine really do do website for a living - one doing a lot of Drupal - and both have commented on how they would have loved that contract for that price!!!
I work as a web front end/.net developer and I can't imagine my company would have gone anywhere near as low as 30k on a project like this. There's a big difference between doing a couple of websites as a freelance to developing them for large companies and organizations.Just for fun, I actually do a number of websites for mates and local pubs, etc, as well as 7-DNA, and believe me, it's not at all £30K's worth in that new website - even allowing for the migration of data from the old to the new.
And a couple good friend of mine really do do website for a living - one doing a lot of Drupal - and both have commented on how they would have loved that contract for that price!!!
EDIT: That's not to say I like the way it looks though
I would have expected device responsive HTML at least.Edited by framerateuk on Wednesday 1st October 09:50
framerateuk said:
I work as a web front end/.net developer and I can't imagine my company would have gone anywhere near as low as 30k on a project like this. There's a big difference between doing a couple of websites as a freelance to developing them for large companies and organizations.
EDIT: That's not to say I like the way it looks though I would have expected device responsive HTML at least.
That's why I commented on both my personal experience AND those of two professional website developers I know, who do some very big projects...EDIT: That's not to say I like the way it looks though
I would have expected device responsive HTML at least.As a club, the money would have been better spent on what the members want - not what the team viewed as being important. Messing up the forum is a key failure, as for most that is what was important - not the website. IMHO, that's the issue with the club being run as a ltd company.
And I agree, for any website/forum to not be responsive in this day and age is a major no-no!
All the websites/forums I do are responsive...
Responsive as in, the site resizes itself based on the size of the device/browser it's viewed on - so you get the content delivered in a way that's suitable for the device.
Take the RNIB site for example ( http://www.rnib.org.uk/), if you resize the browser window all the way down to a mobile phone width, you'll see the site will resize and change the menus and content layout to suit that device.
Take the RNIB site for example ( http://www.rnib.org.uk/), if you resize the browser window all the way down to a mobile phone width, you'll see the site will resize and change the menus and content layout to suit that device.
Exactly - you can also see that with http://www.7-dna.com including the forum pages, as well as basic website pages.
Means you can view the site on a mobile phone, tablet, or desktop pc easily.
Or try this site - another of the ones I look after for a mate: http://www.tallyho-barkway.co.uk/
To have a new website that doesn't do this is a real drop-off...
Means you can view the site on a mobile phone, tablet, or desktop pc easily.
Or try this site - another of the ones I look after for a mate: http://www.tallyho-barkway.co.uk/
To have a new website that doesn't do this is a real drop-off...
Edited by Eugene7 on Wednesday 1st October 18:52
328 said:
It's not a kit car, just a car that happens to be available in kit form...
Caterham/Lotus 7 = Component car. A vehicle that is simply assembled.Kit car = A vehicle which is built with parts from other vehicles where holes have to be made and parts modified to suit etc etc.
Yes, the Lotus 7 (and other early Lotuses) were supplied in bits or partly assembled and at the time were called 'kits' to avoid payment a large chunk of purchase tax.
I have assembled Lotus 7's and Caterham's in a weekend. A kit? well I think it would take a little longer!!
Thanks Eugene. I had a conversation with someone a while ago and 30k was mentioned. I was a bit shocked!
For some reason the club has always been funny/secretive over money which for the 16 or 17 years I was a member always bugged me. (Didn't renew in April this year as sold the 7)
Over the years there seems to be a few rather large sums of money spent or lost which I feel should have been either approved by, or justified to the members.
Instead they refuse to discuss things in an open way.
I guess the members wishes are not a priority.
For some reason the club has always been funny/secretive over money which for the 16 or 17 years I was a member always bugged me. (Didn't renew in April this year as sold the 7)
Over the years there seems to be a few rather large sums of money spent or lost which I feel should have been either approved by, or justified to the members.
Instead they refuse to discuss things in an open way.
I guess the members wishes are not a priority.
I am actually not happy because I just joined the club for the first time so I could post on Blatchat again since they changed the rules a few years back.
My timing is great sometimes....I just really don't like the look of the new forum. When you get to a certain age sometimes the prospect of having to learn another new thing is a real pain in the backside....especially when you are fairly sure it cant be as good as the thing you already used, knew well and understood!
This is not an entirely new problem though both Autotrader and PH classifieds are much more painful than they were before they got upgraded.
My timing is great sometimes....I just really don't like the look of the new forum. When you get to a certain age sometimes the prospect of having to learn another new thing is a real pain in the backside....especially when you are fairly sure it cant be as good as the thing you already used, knew well and understood!
This is not an entirely new problem though both Autotrader and PH classifieds are much more painful than they were before they got upgraded.
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