Labour stretches lead over Tories
Discussion
edh said:
I'll tell you what's not fair - people making fun of Cameron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU
well it made me laugh..
Ah mannnnnnnnnnn! thanks for posting, that is top comedy. Looking forward to seeing the contributions from Milliband, Clegg and fartrage now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU
well it made me laugh..
Nick Griffin will not be leading his party, that's certain. He has resigned.
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rovermorris999 said:
edh said:
...you mean like the massive subsidy to the private pensions sector? 
It's the only reason I stick money into a pension - as the government is handing me free money.
Not so much handing you free money as not taking what's yours in the first place but I get your point. It's the only reason I stick money into a pension - as the government is handing me free money.wsurfa said:
Or deferring the tax take until after retirement and, as such, providing a needed incentive for people to provide for themselves, rather than hose it up the wall now and stick their hand out later.
This too. The tax take will be greater as well if people now draw down instead of buying annuities.
Oh dear - they cannot even get their central election pledge correct.
Guardian said:
Labour’s key election pledge to rescue the ailing NHS with an extra £2.5bn a year has begun to unravel after the party admitted that the money would not be available until halfway through the next parliament.
The party has confirmed that none of the £2.5bn pledge, which formed the centrepiece of Ed Miliband’s speech to its conference in Manchester, would be raised in the first year of a Labour government.
Only an unspecified amount would be available in the second year, because Labour would need to steer a budget through parliament and pass legislation before its planned mansion tax, levy on tobacco firms and tax avoidance crackdown would yield any income.
Labour clarified the policy after the Guardian asked Miliband and Ed Balls, the shadow chancellor, for further details of its NHS spending plans for 2015 to 2020.
The disclosure sparked a row, with the coalition parties accusing Labour of deceit and “hypocritical posturing” over an issue it hopes will help it win the general election on 7 May next year.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/05/la...
The party has confirmed that none of the £2.5bn pledge, which formed the centrepiece of Ed Miliband’s speech to its conference in Manchester, would be raised in the first year of a Labour government.
Only an unspecified amount would be available in the second year, because Labour would need to steer a budget through parliament and pass legislation before its planned mansion tax, levy on tobacco firms and tax avoidance crackdown would yield any income.
Labour clarified the policy after the Guardian asked Miliband and Ed Balls, the shadow chancellor, for further details of its NHS spending plans for 2015 to 2020.
The disclosure sparked a row, with the coalition parties accusing Labour of deceit and “hypocritical posturing” over an issue it hopes will help it win the general election on 7 May next year.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/05/la...
BlackLabel said:
Oh dear - they cannot even get their central election pledge correct.
Surely its the idea that counts !Guardian said:
Labour’s key election pledge to rescue the ailing NHS with an extra £2.5bn a year has begun to unravel after the party admitted that the money would not be available until halfway through the next parliament.
The party has confirmed that none of the £2.5bn pledge, which formed the centrepiece of Ed Miliband’s speech to its conference in Manchester, would be raised in the first year of a Labour government.
Only an unspecified amount would be available in the second year, because Labour would need to steer a budget through parliament and pass legislation before its planned mansion tax, levy on tobacco firms and tax avoidance crackdown would yield any income.
Labour clarified the policy after the Guardian asked Miliband and Ed Balls, the shadow chancellor, for further details of its NHS spending plans for 2015 to 2020.
The disclosure sparked a row, with the coalition parties accusing Labour of deceit and “hypocritical posturing” over an issue it hopes will help it win the general election on 7 May next year.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/05/la...
The party has confirmed that none of the £2.5bn pledge, which formed the centrepiece of Ed Miliband’s speech to its conference in Manchester, would be raised in the first year of a Labour government.
Only an unspecified amount would be available in the second year, because Labour would need to steer a budget through parliament and pass legislation before its planned mansion tax, levy on tobacco firms and tax avoidance crackdown would yield any income.
Labour clarified the policy after the Guardian asked Miliband and Ed Balls, the shadow chancellor, for further details of its NHS spending plans for 2015 to 2020.
The disclosure sparked a row, with the coalition parties accusing Labour of deceit and “hypocritical posturing” over an issue it hopes will help it win the general election on 7 May next year.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/05/la...
details are unimportant at this stage with an election so far off.
Oh err I mean err.....................
So maybe the OBR should scrutinise all parties' tax & spending plans then?..
If they propose that this spending comes directly from additional taxes, it seems self-evident that the money is only available after it has been raised? They would be hammered by the same people for suggesting they could spend it in advance...
If they propose that this spending comes directly from additional taxes, it seems self-evident that the money is only available after it has been raised? They would be hammered by the same people for suggesting they could spend it in advance...
Hol said:
fblm said:
anonymous said:
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They should tax the bankers. Or did they spend that already?Go onto Google and do some research around government Gilt edged bonds and what type of organisation usually buys that debt.
http://www.dmo.gov.uk/documentview.aspx?docname=pu...And it's not banks!
In any event I was joking; Millipede has spent his banker bonus tax a dozen times so far...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd...
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 6th October 17:11
SpeedMattersNot said:
Labour will win 2015, hopefully.
Interesting opinion, I for one one feel this latest coalition government has not done too badly, and it really only seems to be unwravelling as the election's coming up and they all dont need to be polite to each other any more.The last thing I want to do is allow Labour back in to continue their experiement.
vournikas said:
Just looking at that graph (and apologies if this is a daft question), given that is the overall picture in May next year does that mean another hung parliament?
Labour would have a majority of around 28.Labour need to poll 3% more than the Tories for a majority whereas the Tories need a 7-8% lead for a majority. In theory Labour could get 1% less than the Tories but still have 20+ seats more in a hung parliament.
http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/userpoll.html
I listened to that nutjob Ed balls on Jeremy vine this morning.
Fork me He was trying to explain how his "Mansion tax" would work.
None of it made any sense , in my opinion he came across as a complete f
ktard of the highest order, but I think knew that anyway.
He was talking with the deluded assumption that he would be the next chancellor, no doubt about it in his own mind.
Fork me He was trying to explain how his "Mansion tax" would work.
None of it made any sense , in my opinion he came across as a complete f
ktard of the highest order, but I think knew that anyway.He was talking with the deluded assumption that he would be the next chancellor, no doubt about it in his own mind.
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