RE: Skoda Octavia vRS: PH Carpool

RE: Skoda Octavia vRS: PH Carpool

Monday 29th September 2014

Skoda Octavia vRS: PH Carpool

The cost-conscious PHer's fast family favourite, as enjoyed by reader John Alexander



Name: John Alexander
Car: 2007 Skoda Octavia vRS 2.0 TFSI
Owned since: September 2011
Previously owned: 1998 Ford Escort TD (70bhp snore), 2005 Ford Mondeo TDCI, 2006 BMW 118d, 2002 Ford Focus TDCI

Why I bought it:
"Why the Skoda? I started looking at the Octavia vRS, albeit diesel, as a company car option in 2008. It looked like a lot of car for the money as well being fairly swift, economical and practical transport. I collected one from a local dealer for a weekend test drive only for the ABS pump to fail (common fault on this platform) on the journey home! The fault didn't put me off and fast forward three years and a very different set of circumstances, I started to look at another car. With a sub six-mile commute the Focus I was driving achieved less than 35mpg and I decided to look for a petrol car, starting with the Mk1 Octavia vRS, but a few conversations with car-nerd friends soon put me off the Mk1 and I discovered the budget would stretch to a decent Mk2. It didn't take long to find one with the right spec within 50 miles and a deal was struck. I really wanted a blue one but couldn't find one in the right spec at the right price. I am secretly glad I have a silver car as most people tend to ignore you and don't give the car a second look. Sometimes it's nice to be ignored!"

What I wish I'd known:
"Not a lot really, I'd done my research and spoken to a couple of specialists who advised me what to look out for. I knew the air conditioning compressors were prone to failure on this platform and I suspected that it had packed in on my car as I handed over the money, but I have a good AC tech who supplied and fitted a new compressor for less than half of what the dealer charges. Cambelts need to be changed every 40K miles or four years and a job that was overdue on my car. My local VW specialist fitted a new cambelt kit and a water pump for £315 using genuine VW group parts (and gave me a further discount for the same job on my wife's Mk5 Golf!)."

Fast, cheap, subtle, easy to mod ... what's not to
Fast, cheap, subtle, easy to mod ... what's not to
Things I love:
"The hardest question to answer is what do I love about the Octavia? After two years I have strangely not got to the love stage but there are a lot of things to like. The boot is vast, which is ideal when you play in a band (as I do) or take a trip to a well known Swedish flat-packed furniture store. It seats five in reasonable comfort and (mine) is well equipped with xenon lights, auto lights/wipers/dipping rear view mirror, electric windows all round, two zone climate control and all of the other things you'd expect in a modern car. Best of all it looks a bit like a taxi or a repmobile yet surprises very many other drivers of cars on the road that don't expect it to perform in the way that it does."

Things I hate:
"Who mentioned social meets with other owners?! I've been to a couple, they're alright but I think I'll remain selective about the ones I go to in future - PH Sunday Services are much more interesting! The biggest source of hate for me in the car is the off-white/grey Alcantara trim on the seats. It needs so much looking after as it picks up dirt from almost anywhere, especially dye transfer from blue jeans. This of course won't be a problem to those blow-dried and bouffanted, grasping on the 80s in stonewashed denim or, worse still, WHITE jeans but for those of us that have been shopping in the last decade, it does mean a bit of regular maintenance with the Alcantara cleaner. There have been a few other niggles that are annoying rather than anything else. The wiper stalk control for the trip computer has stopped working properly, I've got a spare but not got around to fitting it yet; the bonnet release inside the car has a habit of falling off as it looks like a previous owner has pulled too hard and stripped the splines that hold it on; one of the ABS speed sensors has also stopped working and there is a leak into the front passenger footwell (also another known problem). They're not major things and don't affect the use of the car on a daily basis but it would be nice if they didn't go wrong in the first place."

Costs:
"Costs to run are pretty good all things considered. I'm happy to say I think I bought well and it was a cheap car to begin with, certainly for the age and spec. Tax is £260 per year, economy varies from between 23 and 38 mpg (250 to 400 miles to a 50-litre fill) depending in how hard and where you drive the car. Virtually all of the mainstream insurers will provide cover for the car, it's currently insured through a specialist broker who provided cover with all modifications listed for nearly £200 less than the cheapest quote for the standard car. Parts are easy to source and not hugely expensive. Lots of parts are available from GSF or Euro Car Parts, everything else from Skoda or TPS. Lots of parts are of course interchangeable with the Golf Mk5 and there is a fairly plentiful supply of secondhand parts too.

"A basic service can be done at a main dealer for £129 but I entrust the care of the Skoda to Alex at AKS Tuning in Bedford www.akstuning.co.uk. Alex knows VAG platform cars inside out and I wouldn't go anywhere else."

Where I've been:
"Nowhere in particular as work has mostly got in the way. I fancied Le Mans this year with a couple of mates but we couldn't make it work. I've been to a couple of meets with other owners, most recently to a national forum meet. The Octavia made an excellent tracking vehicle on the trip down as I was hanging out of the passenger side grabbing shots of a good selection of other Skodas, standard and modded.

"I look forward to trying to get to Bedford or Blyton before the end of the good weather."

What next?
"Currently I have no plans to part with the car mainly because, well, what could you buy to replace it that offered the same experience for the money? A friend recently took me out in his 535d which was refreshingly rapid and a new twin-turbo 328i or an M135i is quite tempting too. For the time being, I'll keep the car and continue to enjoy it. A small selection of modifications (exhaust with sports cat, uprated fuel pump and corresponding map) has seen power rise to approx 260-270hp. I believe my local tame tuner currently has an uprated/hybrid turbo ready to fit which will be supported by another remap and should see 300+ hp. With the supporting handling mods and bigger brakes, it should keep me entertained for another 18 months at least!"

UPDATE
Since originally submitting his Carpool John has been in touch to say he went ahead with the turbo mod. He says: "The car now has a hybrid turbo from Beach Buggy Turbos, bigger intercooler and injectors fitted by AKS Tuning and corresponding software which has taken power to 319hp and a whopping 370 lb ft torque. It's a relatively easy turbo swap, simpler and more-cost effective than the common conversion to a K04 turbo (as found in the Audi S3 and Edition 30 Golf GTI), but with remarkably similar results."


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Chris71

Original Poster:

21,536 posts

242 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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Faced with the prospect of buying a family car in the near future, this is pretty high up the list.

Seem to remember from old road tests that they're quite playful, as well as reasonably quick point-to-point?

surveyor

17,818 posts

184 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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Had one for a short while. Driving position, and more notably the accelerator being offset further left than normal murdered me on long drives. It would become painful to move.

Had to go.

Was impressed with the car. Economical, but swift, decent spec. Rather noisy though.

AndyNetwork

1,834 posts

194 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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If you want an even better sleeper, consider the elegance 1.8TSI, can be remapped to similar levels of performance, but does not have the rear wing or the fancy VRS wheels.

Still goes like stink, and last week on a 300 mile blast around the lanes of North Wales, got nearly 50MPG

zeppelin101

724 posts

192 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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For the record, a new 328i is not twin turbo. It is twin scroll however.

Reminds me of the adverts that used to be seen everywhere for MR2 turbos (twin entry) badged as twin turbo biggrin

MadDog1962

890 posts

162 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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I hope that the insurer has been informed about those performance mods...

DaveyBoyWonder

2,500 posts

174 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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I had one of these and despite initially being glad to see the back of it, I've grown to really miss it. Mine was played with a bit, the biggest difference being the AP coilovers which made it handle absolutely brilliantly.

Performance bargain IMHO - kinda wish I'd kept it now and really gone to town on it!

May get one as a second car in the future - as has been mentioned, the amount of boot space etc was awesome!

Blue Oval84

5,276 posts

161 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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MadDog1962 said:
I hope that the insurer has been informed about those performance mods...
The article says that he has informed them, I can only presume he updated them when the turbo was done too.

GoodDoc

559 posts

176 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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MadDog1962 said:
I hope that the insurer has been informed about those performance mods...
"it's currently insured through a specialist broker who provided cover with all modifications listed for nearly £200 less than the cheapest quote for the standard car"

Reading can reveal so much.

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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MadDog1962 said:
I hope that the insurer has been informed about those performance mods...
coffee

The article said:
Virtually all of the mainstream insurers will provide cover for the car, it's currently insured through a specialist broker who provided cover with all modifications listed for nearly £200 less than the cheapest quote for the standard car.
Yup, I think he's got that sorted!

Cheers,

Dan

crispyshark

1,262 posts

145 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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Good pal of mine has one which he has recently had remapped.

The mid range is pretty wicked now and will keep up with my PPP WRX from a rolling start. Handling isn't too bad for a car of it's size (they are very long) but it's no B road weapon.

Eats up motor way miles with decent economy too.

A very under-rated car and our main support car for Le Mans and other tours we do! The boot is cavernous!

shalmaneser

5,932 posts

195 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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MadDog1962 said:
I hope that the insurer has been informed about those performance mods...
Wow you must be fun at parties

Blanchie

394 posts

222 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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Perfect budget dad wagon!
agreed for the all important kiddie "junk" that needs transporting they swollow up everything and perfect for family holidays across France :-)
Fully agree on the noise front, they do boom a lot.
Oh teh rare leather option solves the seat issue, and a must with my boy!

Every lunchtime playing the pistonheads faverote on teh web looking for a semi sensible dad wagon that had a small amount of fun and resonably economical (CR170 in the case of mine) that was <10K and hadn't been taxi'd to death always kept coming back to the VRS.

A good few years ago I had a Mk1 VRS Combi and a modded 4x4T good cars but very basic, the Mk2 up the game better...and Mk3 is such a different car altogether (cue Airplane joke! lol)








Edited by Blanchie on Monday 29th September 13:13

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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I've been moderately impressed with the wife's - it does nothing hugely well but nothing badly. Ideal as a family waggon but I wouldn't want to have to drive it every day.

Hugely improved by removing the god-awful 18inch wheels it came with and fitting something smaller and lighter.

rob.e

2,861 posts

278 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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nice write up. john - you need to post a pic with the neuspeeds on smile

Patch888

701 posts

128 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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shalmaneser said:
MadDog1962 said:
I hope that the insurer has been informed about those performance mods...
Wow you must be fun at parties

Your not living up to your name MadDog (Churchill1962)

Very nice car, I've been considering one of these as a work commuter for a while now.

TheBigUnit

364 posts

192 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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Nice car, sensibly and thoughtfully modded too.

An excellent write up. Rest assured that most people will read it rolleyes

cleevej

22 posts

205 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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Bought a Wagon Vrs in March as a daily smoker, I won't park the 911 in staff car park. Very pleased with it, quick enough, ok on fuel, massive boot, sounds a bit dull wish I had xenon's.
Air Con compressor did pack up on me, replaced under used car warranty, also rear wiper motor has packed up, apparently also fairly common like many A3,s.
Did a 900 mile round trip to our home in France, she didn't miss a beat and was loaded to the hilt on return journey, 5k well spent so far.

Japveesix

4,480 posts

168 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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Still like the sound of these. I did look at them when I was last car hunting but couldn't really stretch to anything past a cheapy MK1 and it didn't seem sensible.

This one must go fairly well with that power hike and I'd certainly rather have one than an equivalent golf etc as it's just that bit more interesting and sleeperish.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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I have 2008 estate, PD diesel version
Paid £13250 @ 1 year old with 5k on the clock

Now 60k & worth around £6500 (WBAC even) so cheap motoring.

Plenty of space. Looks good still. Old enough for me not to be too precious about it, so stress free motoring & parking!

A bit noisy on the motorway due to lack of sound deadening.
Seats uncomfortable on long journeys for me & a common complaint..

But its the longest I've owned a car (5 yrs now)

To date:-
2 sets of tyres - 20K & 40K.
Injectors changed under recall.
Aerial changed due to water ingress.
2 dealer services at 18K & 36K. I changed oil @50K & will again soon.
That's it. Nothing else at all. By far the most reliable car I've owned.
Still original cambelt (bad I know, a workmates is 8 years old on the original). Will get belt & water pump changed soon. Unfortunately Skoda want £459. Local VW garage in same group £359. But they wont do Skoda!!

Considered changing recently but new ones are no longer cheap as they were. I'd pay 13.5K at 1 year old again, but if spending 20+ would opt for more premium with more refinement (sound proofing!)

Ex Boy Racer

1,151 posts

192 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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Is it just me..

or is this pistonheads...

Not sensible cars.com