Windows 10!

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Esseesse

8,969 posts

208 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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A few years old but still relevant: http://semiaccurate.com/2012/11/14/microsoft-has-f...

zippy3x

1,315 posts

267 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Esseesse said:
A few years old but still relevant: http://semiaccurate.com/2012/11/14/microsoft-has-f...
Article is very biased and disingenuous. And in the 2 years since written, has been mainly proven wrong.

My favourite paragraph :

A company that plays this game for too long becomes set in their ways, and any chance of real change simply becomes impossible. Microsoft is there, and has been for a long long time. Their product lines have stagnated, creating customer lock in is prioritized over creating customer value, and the supply chain is controlled by an iron fisted monopoly. Any attempt at innovation with a Windows PC has been shut out for over a decade, woe betide anyone who tried to buck that trend. The history books are littered with the corpses of companies that tried to make change the ‘Windows experience’. Microsoft’s displeasure is swift and fatal to those that try. Or at least it was.

Now, you tell me which of the major tech companies does that really sound like?

Esseesse

8,969 posts

208 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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zippy3x said:
Now, you tell me which of the major tech companies does that really sound like?
Give me a clue...

zippy3x

1,315 posts

267 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Esseesse said:
zippy3x said:
Now, you tell me which of the major tech companies does that really sound like?
Give me a clue...
Really??

Ok I'll give you a clue

Microsoft :

Windows can be run on any suitable hardware.
Office now available on OSX, IOS and android.
Brought out entire new product lines like Surface.
Added non Microsoft language support to it's development environment (HTML, JavaScript)
Open sourced it's .Net compiler (Roslyn) so others can extend .net
Created one operating system for PC, tablet and phone allowing developers to write one app to run across all platform (and one purchase to cover all platforms)
Given financial support to companies like Xamarin to allow .Net code to be used on IOS and Android.

Apple :

Can't run OSX on any device other than their hardware (officially)
Brought out nothing that is not iterative, copied or bought in since that article was written.
Created new language (swift). Only available on OSX.
Apple TV (and others) only works with Apple devices.
iTunes, piece of hateful st on any other platform (supposedly ok on OSX).

Becoming clearer now?

Foliage

3,861 posts

122 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Im sure i read somewhere that Windows 9 was going to be the free replacement to thoughs who bought 8/8.1 and that 10 was the next purchasable Windows OS.

sly fox

2,226 posts

219 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Which part of Microsoft do you work for ZIppy?

wolves_wanderer

12,387 posts

237 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Do you go on the iPhone threads and ask the faithful which part of Apple they work for?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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CTRL+C & CTRL+V will be supported in cmd.exe.....

That's the main thing I was pleased to see when I read the press releases... hehe

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Nyphur said:
CTRL+C & CTRL+V will be supported in cmd.exe.....

That's the main thing I was pleased to see when I read the press releases... hehe
So what do you do when you want to interrupt processes etc now?

ajprice

27,473 posts

196 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Not sure if serious, but this could be why it isn't Windows 9 http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/01/windows-10-9-na...

if(version.StartsWith("Windows 9"))

{ /* 95 and 98 */ } else {

So the version checker asks if it starts with Windows 9 to specify Windows 95 or 98.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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RobDickinson said:
So what do you do when you want to interrupt processes etc now?
Close the window. Shut down the PC. Pretend you were never there.

Same as always.

Chris Type R

8,026 posts

249 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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ajprice said:
Not sure if serious, but this could be why it isn't Windows 9 http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/01/windows-10-9-na...

if(version.StartsWith("Windows 9"))

{ /* 95 and 98 */ } else {

So the version checker asks if it starts with Windows 9 to specify Windows 95 or 98.
Amusing.

Sloppy programming - I feeling smug as that's not something I'd do. My apps tend to be Win based, so maybe this is an approach which is followed in browser based code.

Edited by Chris Type R on Thursday 2nd October 08:46

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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It seems a very dodgy and unusual way of checking versions...

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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RobDickinson said:
Nyphur said:
CTRL+C & CTRL+V will be supported in cmd.exe.....

That's the main thing I was pleased to see when I read the press releases... hehe
So what do you do when you want to interrupt processes etc now?
I've just installed the Enterprise Evaluation in a VM.

The commands work as copy/paste etc when there is no command running, but still break the process when one is running smile


Sheets Tabuer

18,959 posts

215 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Installed it too, quite like it but then I'm a fan of 8.1.

Happy all the swiping to corners has gone.

Chris Type R

8,026 posts

249 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Sheets Tabuer said:
Installed it too, quite like it but then I'm a fan of 8.1.

Happy all the swiping to corners has gone.
Have they dispensed with "charms" ?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Sheets Tabuer said:
Installed it too, quite like it but then I'm a fan of 8.1.

Happy all the swiping to corners has gone.
I'm not a fan of Windows 8, but quite enjoying 10 so far.

ccr32

1,970 posts

218 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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zippy3x said:
Microsoft :
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Created one operating system for PC, tablet and phone allowing developers to write one app to run across all platform (and one purchase to cover all platforms)
Is this actually the case? I mean, I know they are named the same, but are you telling me that a full desktop version of 8.1 is sat on a Windows phone with only the touchy Metro bits made available?

This is actually a serious question by the way, not a dig! I genuinely don't know... ?

Sheets Tabuer

18,959 posts

215 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Chris Type R said:
Have they dispensed with "charms" ?
yup, desktop feature is pretty handy.



gpo746

3,397 posts

130 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Downloaded the iso so will dig out an old drive and load it onto that.