Ebay - Can a seller cancel after an auction
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Make sure you leave a factual neg, something simple like 'refused to sell for final price' and then leave one single star in every category. As has been said above do not agree to a mutual cancellation and hit him with the fees and just for the hell of it file a 'non performing seller' report with eBay as well.
SistersofPercy said:
Make sure you leave a factual neg, something simple like 'refused to sell for final price' and then leave one single star in every category. As has been said above do not agree to a mutual cancellation and hit him with the fees and just for the hell of it file a 'non performing seller' report with eBay as well.
You are properly evil like Darth Vader. Will do all of the above, thanks.
eBay don't exactly make it easy to sell with a reserve though. It's ridiculously expensive for one thing. Last I checked it was ~£18 for a auction with a reserve of £400.
The only mistake this guy made is not getting one of his mates to shill bid up his auction like 99% of people who "no reserve, 1p start!" people do.
Depends on the seller, I won a set of headlight the other week, brand new GM parts, £6 odd, his brother refused to post or collection, started a non performing seller, picked them up the next day.
Comical thing was they had been listed wrong, they weren't astra lights but zafira instead, still sell on for more I suppose...
Comical thing was they had been listed wrong, they weren't astra lights but zafira instead, still sell on for more I suppose...
JustinP1 said:
Legally, the item is sold.
Are you going to enforce it?
If not, just be nasty for a bit to see if he does the right thing, if not, move on.
Legally? really?Are you going to enforce it?
If not, just be nasty for a bit to see if he does the right thing, if not, move on.
Surely for it to be legal, there would have to be some sort of signed agreement between the buyer - eBay - seller?
Surely it's no more legally binding than me telling you I'll pay you £2 for each reply you make in this thread?
DrDoofenshmirtz said:
JustinP1 said:
Legally, the item is sold.
Are you going to enforce it?
If not, just be nasty for a bit to see if he does the right thing, if not, move on.
Legally? really?Are you going to enforce it?
If not, just be nasty for a bit to see if he does the right thing, if not, move on.
Surely for it to be legal, there would have to be some sort of signed agreement between the buyer - eBay - seller?
Surely it's no more legally binding than me telling you I'll pay you £2 for each reply you make in this thread?
DrDoofenshmirtz said:
JustinP1 said:
Legally, the item is sold.
Are you going to enforce it?
If not, just be nasty for a bit to see if he does the right thing, if not, move on.
Legally? really?Are you going to enforce it?
If not, just be nasty for a bit to see if he does the right thing, if not, move on.
Surely for it to be legal, there would have to be some sort of signed agreement between the buyer - eBay - seller?
Surely it's no more legally binding than me telling you I'll pay you £2 for each reply you make in this thread?
When did you last sign an agreement when you filled your car up with fuel, or jumped in a taxi, or bought some tools from B&Q?
And Centurion is right. If you offer that you will pay me £2 for each one of my informative replies, and I accept, then we have a contract which is just as legally binding as one signed on parchment with goat's blood and witnessed by the Queen.
For a contract, you need three things: an offer, 'consideration', and acceptance. Your offer would be your post, the consideration is £2 for my post, and my acceptance would be my post in return confirming.
Edited by JustinP1 on Thursday 2nd October 13:26
JustinP1 said:
For a contract, you need three things: an offer, 'consideration', and acceptance. Your offer would be your post, the consideration is £2 for my post, and my acceptance would be my post in return confirming.
And an intention to create legal relations.....Which may well be lacking in your example!
Durzel said:
eBay don't exactly make it easy to sell with a reserve though. It's ridiculously expensive for one thing. Last I checked it was ~£18 for a auction with a reserve of £400.
The only mistake this guy made is not getting one of his mates to shill bid up his auction like 99% of people who "no reserve, 1p start!" people do.
Lurking Lawyer said:
JustinP1 said:
For a contract, you need three things: an offer, 'consideration', and acceptance. Your offer would be your post, the consideration is £2 for my post, and my acceptance would be my post in return confirming.
And an intention to create legal relations.....Which may well be lacking in your example!
Which is why I specified:
JustinP1 said:
If you offer that you will pay me £2 for each one of my informative replies...
SistersofPercy said:
Durzel said:
eBay don't exactly make it easy to sell with a reserve though. It's ridiculously expensive for one thing. Last I checked it was ~£18 for a auction with a reserve of £400.
The only mistake this guy made is not getting one of his mates to shill bid up his auction like 99% of people who "no reserve, 1p start!" people do.
Fastpedeller said:
SistersofPercy said:
Durzel said:
eBay don't exactly make it easy to sell with a reserve though. It's ridiculously expensive for one thing. Last I checked it was ~£18 for a auction with a reserve of £400.
The only mistake this guy made is not getting one of his mates to shill bid up his auction like 99% of people who "no reserve, 1p start!" people do.
Think about it from the potential buyer's perspective. Out of a sea of options, do they watch the item with an unknown reserve on which may be unrealistic so a waste of time, or watch the item with a start price which is probably around or a little over what they want to pay anyway.
No - they want to catch a bargain so they'll watch the items that are still at a bargain price.
The key is watchers. The more people that watch, the more people bid. The more bids, the more chance of a bidding war in the last few minutes so the item they have bid on is not 'lost'. That, psychologically is more painful than not bidding at all, so they'll end up bidding higher than they initially would have liked.
No, but they will.
Amount of times i've bought an item very cheaply only to get a message such as
'my child puked on it' or 'fell off a shelf in my garage so i binned it'
ebay are useless so obviously don't help from them because i've found out in life there is 'common sense' and the 'ebay way'
Amount of times i've bought an item very cheaply only to get a message such as
'my child puked on it' or 'fell off a shelf in my garage so i binned it'
ebay are useless so obviously don't help from them because i've found out in life there is 'common sense' and the 'ebay way'
JustinP1 said:
My personal experience over a number of years and literally over a hundred items is that on average you'll obtain a lower selling price if you start at a higher start price, and you'll massacre interest if you put a reserve on.
Think about it from the potential buyer's perspective. Out of a sea of options, do they watch the item with an unknown reserve on which may be unrealistic so a waste of time, or watch the item with a start price which is probably around or a little over what they want to pay anyway.
No - they want to catch a bargain so they'll watch the items that are still at a bargain price.
The key is watchers. The more people that watch, the more people bid. The more bids, the more chance of a bidding war in the last few minutes so the item they have bid on is not 'lost'. That, psychologically is more painful than not bidding at all, so they'll end up bidding higher than they initially would have liked.
I don't disagree if it's a popular item, but in the case of a specialist item I think it's too risky to start off too low. To a large extent (IMHO) if it's a SPECIALIST item, then an interested buyer knows what they want to pay, and it likely to be the only bidder. I agree it's tricky balance, but if I want to be a good seller (and not withdraw item after sale) then I'd rather just advertise it at my price and have a long wait until it sells (Maybe I'm too cautious?).Think about it from the potential buyer's perspective. Out of a sea of options, do they watch the item with an unknown reserve on which may be unrealistic so a waste of time, or watch the item with a start price which is probably around or a little over what they want to pay anyway.
No - they want to catch a bargain so they'll watch the items that are still at a bargain price.
The key is watchers. The more people that watch, the more people bid. The more bids, the more chance of a bidding war in the last few minutes so the item they have bid on is not 'lost'. That, psychologically is more painful than not bidding at all, so they'll end up bidding higher than they initially would have liked.
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