A superb Speech and Vow by Cameron well above expectations
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Well well - I am a Tory voter but what a superb speech given today by Cameron the content and his passion over many different and key aspects of UK life the width and breath of the country.
Regardless of what an individuals natural voting position I think everyone would agree it was a vastly superior effort to Labour in every possible measure.
I had consigned myself to the fact we as a country were going to get labour in May next year however I'm really hoping those promises will move enough people into the Tory vote camp.
Regardless of what an individuals natural voting position I think everyone would agree it was a vastly superior effort to Labour in every possible measure.
I had consigned myself to the fact we as a country were going to get labour in May next year however I'm really hoping those promises will move enough people into the Tory vote camp.
link for anyone who missed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU
my favourite Cameron speech to date
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU
my favourite Cameron speech to date
edh said:
link for anyone who missed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU
my favourite Cameron speech to date
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU
my favourite Cameron speech to date
nice little Freudian slip from Dave..
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AA66Yp2Vx7Y
"...this is the people we resent..."
Posted by Jogon in ukip thread.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AA66Yp2Vx7Y
"...this is the people we resent..."
Posted by Jogon in ukip thread.
smn159 said:
Caught a bit of it on the news, but sounded like tax cuts maybe in a few years for the better off, provided that all sorts of improbable things happen?
Tax free threshold increased to £12.5k that's helping everyone especially the lowest paid as that makes the biggest difference to them. Min wage working 30hours a week no tax to pay that is superb taking a further 1million people out of tax altogether
Welshbeef said:
smn159 said:
Caught a bit of it on the news, but sounded like tax cuts maybe in a few years for the better off, provided that all sorts of improbable things happen?
Tax free threshold increased to £12.5k that's helping everyone especially the lowest paid as that makes the biggest difference to them. Min wage working 30hours a week no tax to pay that is superb taking a further 1million people out of tax altogether
Still voting UKIP
I was in the hall and it was an astonishingly well delivered speech.
There was almost no ideology - it was more like a budget speech in many ways - just a long list of commitments should they win the next election
The Central theme was "get the economy right and you'll be able to have a better job, a better home, better healthcare, better education for your kids and more money in your pocket"
There was almost no ideology - it was more like a budget speech in many ways - just a long list of commitments should they win the next election
The Central theme was "get the economy right and you'll be able to have a better job, a better home, better healthcare, better education for your kids and more money in your pocket"
…and you guys fell for it, hook,line and sinker LOL. The guy is a serial liar, why are his own MP's jumping ship?
ps just to remind you guys, he's been in since 2010 and all he's done is cut Child benefit for some medium/high earners (sending the excess to Eastern European kids) oh and and let me think, oh yes, gay marriage is now legal. Now he promises gold!
ps just to remind you guys, he's been in since 2010 and all he's done is cut Child benefit for some medium/high earners (sending the excess to Eastern European kids) oh and and let me think, oh yes, gay marriage is now legal. Now he promises gold!
Welshbeef said:
smn159 said:
Caught a bit of it on the news, but sounded like tax cuts maybe in a few years for the better off, provided that all sorts of improbable things happen?
Tax free threshold increased to £12.5k that's helping everyone especially the lowest paid as that makes the biggest difference to them. Min wage working 30hours a week no tax to pay that is superb taking a further 1million people out of tax altogether
ClaphamGT3 said:
There was almost no ideology - it was more like a budget speech in many ways - just a long list of commitments should they win the next election
The Central theme was "get the economy right and you'll be able to have a better job, a better home, better healthcare, better education for your kids and more money in your pocket"
I've voted Tory all my life but explain to me why he has not already done any of this? Doesn't have to wait until he's, possibly, re-elected. The Central theme was "get the economy right and you'll be able to have a better job, a better home, better healthcare, better education for your kids and more money in your pocket"
[quote=ClaphamGT3]I was in the hall and it was an astonishingly well delivered speech.
There was almost no ideology - it was more like a budget speech in many ways - just a long list of commitments should they win the next election
The Central theme was "get the economy right and you'll be able to have a better job, a better home, better healthcare, better education for your kids and more money in your pocket"
Therein lies the crux.
They've not achieved their own targets to-date, why should we expect them to deliver next time?
Maybe it's just my (old) age, but all I heard was IF, IF, IF.... (Oh, and something about 2020!)
One final point; getting the economy right is THEIR job.
I.E. If THEY fail, WE lose.
TD
There was almost no ideology - it was more like a budget speech in many ways - just a long list of commitments should they win the next election
The Central theme was "get the economy right and you'll be able to have a better job, a better home, better healthcare, better education for your kids and more money in your pocket"
Therein lies the crux.
They've not achieved their own targets to-date, why should we expect them to deliver next time?
Maybe it's just my (old) age, but all I heard was IF, IF, IF.... (Oh, and something about 2020!)
One final point; getting the economy right is THEIR job.
I.E. If THEY fail, WE lose.
TD
Welshbeef said:
smn159 said:
Caught a bit of it on the news, but sounded like tax cuts maybe in a few years for the better off, provided that all sorts of improbable things happen?
Tax free threshold increased to £12.5k that's helping everyone especially the lowest paid as that makes the biggest difference to them. Min wage working 30hours a week no tax to pay that is superb taking a further 1million people out of tax altogether
Welshbeef said:
Regardless of what an individuals natural voting position I think everyone would agree it was a vastly superior effort to Labour in every possible measure.
I had consigned myself to the fact we as a country were going to get labour in May next year however I'm really hoping those promises will move enough people into the Tory vote camp.
Perhaps many others wont appreciate the benefits from it that you will?I had consigned myself to the fact we as a country were going to get labour in May next year however I'm really hoping those promises will move enough people into the Tory vote camp.
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