More hype and plain silliness
Discussion
david hockney said:
at £92k- er....for that dough I can think of about 50 cars I'd rather spend my cash on
Interesting thought ; OK , let's play we've won £K 100 in the lottery and you have to spend it on a Porsche - which one ? This is much harder than 18 months ago as prices have moved so much - let me think ..... 
RSVP911 said:
Interesting thought ; OK , let's play we've won £K 100 in the lottery and you have to spend it on a Porsche - which one ? This is much harder than 18 months ago as prices have moved so much - let me think .....
Started a new £100k Porsche only thread here so not to hijack this thread!
IMI A said:
IMI A said:
So whats this worth PH massive?
Sales pitch from Hexagon below
1988 Porsche 1988 Commemorative Edition 911 - RHD
Rare 1988 Commemorative Edition to celebrate 250,000 Porsche 911 models made.?
1 of 50 RHD (Only 30 Coupes)
?
Diamond Blue Metallic with colour coded 16"
Fuchs wheels
Silver blue "ruffle" finish leather seats with Ferry Porsche signature on headrests?
Silver blue silk velour carpet in coupe as well as under front hood
Carrera badge delete?Electric sunroof?Short shift
25,900 miles from new
Full Porsche OPC History
Toolkit/Jack etc.
Original Blaupunkt Toronto
Concours winning car – 2014 ‘Best Porsche’ for the Porsche Club annual event
Unexpectedly available – this is a rare opportunity - not to be missed.
IMO looks lovely if a bit kitsch/naff on ruffle leather and signature on headrests but apart from that looks a minter to my eye
Called them today. £92,000 It belongs to one of the guys there complimented him and wished him luck with the sale but not for me at that money.Sales pitch from Hexagon below
1988 Porsche 1988 Commemorative Edition 911 - RHD
Rare 1988 Commemorative Edition to celebrate 250,000 Porsche 911 models made.?
1 of 50 RHD (Only 30 Coupes)
?
Diamond Blue Metallic with colour coded 16"
Fuchs wheels
Silver blue "ruffle" finish leather seats with Ferry Porsche signature on headrests?
Silver blue silk velour carpet in coupe as well as under front hood
Carrera badge delete?Electric sunroof?Short shift
25,900 miles from new
Full Porsche OPC History
Toolkit/Jack etc.
Original Blaupunkt Toronto
Concours winning car – 2014 ‘Best Porsche’ for the Porsche Club annual event
Unexpectedly available – this is a rare opportunity - not to be missed.
IMO looks lovely if a bit kitsch/naff on ruffle leather and signature on headrests but apart from that looks a minter to my eye
Of course if you happen to miss this cheeky little bargain then how would you be able to sleep?!!
These jokers just sum up my title of the thread.
I would feel quite ill if I had 92 grand in this common garden Porsche miles or not.
P50 said:
IMI A said:
IMI A said:
So whats this worth PH massive?
Sales pitch from Hexagon below
1988 Porsche 1988 Commemorative Edition 911 - RHD
Rare 1988 Commemorative Edition to celebrate 250,000 Porsche 911 models made.?
1 of 50 RHD (Only 30 Coupes)
?
Diamond Blue Metallic with colour coded 16"
Fuchs wheels
Silver blue "ruffle" finish leather seats with Ferry Porsche signature on headrests?
Silver blue silk velour carpet in coupe as well as under front hood
Carrera badge delete?Electric sunroof?Short shift
25,900 miles from new
Full Porsche OPC History
Toolkit/Jack etc.
Original Blaupunkt Toronto
Concours winning car – 2014 ‘Best Porsche’ for the Porsche Club annual event
Unexpectedly available – this is a rare opportunity - not to be missed.
IMO looks lovely if a bit kitsch/naff on ruffle leather and signature on headrests but apart from that looks a minter to my eye
Called them today. £92,000 It belongs to one of the guys there complimented him and wished him luck with the sale but not for me at that money.Sales pitch from Hexagon below
1988 Porsche 1988 Commemorative Edition 911 - RHD
Rare 1988 Commemorative Edition to celebrate 250,000 Porsche 911 models made.?
1 of 50 RHD (Only 30 Coupes)
?
Diamond Blue Metallic with colour coded 16"
Fuchs wheels
Silver blue "ruffle" finish leather seats with Ferry Porsche signature on headrests?
Silver blue silk velour carpet in coupe as well as under front hood
Carrera badge delete?Electric sunroof?Short shift
25,900 miles from new
Full Porsche OPC History
Toolkit/Jack etc.
Original Blaupunkt Toronto
Concours winning car – 2014 ‘Best Porsche’ for the Porsche Club annual event
Unexpectedly available – this is a rare opportunity - not to be missed.
IMO looks lovely if a bit kitsch/naff on ruffle leather and signature on headrests but apart from that looks a minter to my eye
Of course if you happen to miss this cheeky little bargain then how would you be able to sleep?!!
These jokers just sum up my title of the thread.
I would feel quite ill if I had 92 grand in this common garden Porsche miles or not.
The car belongs to one of the guys who runs H and I don't think he really wants to sell it hence the stupid price.
IMI A said:
P50 said:
IMI A said:
IMI A said:
So whats this worth PH massive?
Sales pitch from Hexagon below
1988 Porsche 1988 Commemorative Edition 911 - RHD
Rare 1988 Commemorative Edition to celebrate 250,000 Porsche 911 models made.?
1 of 50 RHD (Only 30 Coupes)
?
Diamond Blue Metallic with colour coded 16"
Fuchs wheels
Silver blue "ruffle" finish leather seats with Ferry Porsche signature on headrests?
Silver blue silk velour carpet in coupe as well as under front hood
Carrera badge delete?Electric sunroof?Short shift
25,900 miles from new
Full Porsche OPC History
Toolkit/Jack etc.
Original Blaupunkt Toronto
Concours winning car – 2014 ‘Best Porsche’ for the Porsche Club annual event
Unexpectedly available – this is a rare opportunity - not to be missed.
IMO looks lovely if a bit kitsch/naff on ruffle leather and signature on headrests but apart from that looks a minter to my eye
Called them today. £92,000 It belongs to one of the guys there complimented him and wished him luck with the sale but not for me at that money.Sales pitch from Hexagon below
1988 Porsche 1988 Commemorative Edition 911 - RHD
Rare 1988 Commemorative Edition to celebrate 250,000 Porsche 911 models made.?
1 of 50 RHD (Only 30 Coupes)
?
Diamond Blue Metallic with colour coded 16"
Fuchs wheels
Silver blue "ruffle" finish leather seats with Ferry Porsche signature on headrests?
Silver blue silk velour carpet in coupe as well as under front hood
Carrera badge delete?Electric sunroof?Short shift
25,900 miles from new
Full Porsche OPC History
Toolkit/Jack etc.
Original Blaupunkt Toronto
Concours winning car – 2014 ‘Best Porsche’ for the Porsche Club annual event
Unexpectedly available – this is a rare opportunity - not to be missed.
IMO looks lovely if a bit kitsch/naff on ruffle leather and signature on headrests but apart from that looks a minter to my eye
Of course if you happen to miss this cheeky little bargain then how would you be able to sleep?!!
These jokers just sum up my title of the thread.
I would feel quite ill if I had 92 grand in this common garden Porsche miles or not.
The car belongs to one of the guys who runs H and I don't think he really wants to sell it hence the stupid price.
I suppose the logic is if a decent restored car is up for 70-80 then what price for a uber low mile original?
Well it can't be less can it so by default it has to be more!
So there you have it children, a 92,000pounds common garden 3.2 sport coupe.
You're better off with a nice £45 grand car that you can actually use as this thing will be harmed by the mileage going on. if you can find one - hang on, now I'm saying that a really good 3.2 G50 at £45k is cheap?!! WTF?! four months ago that £50k ovno G50 silver coupe with 40k miles seemed expensive!
Bunch of arse I tell thee!
(Was out in mine yesterday and bloody hell they are good REALLY GOOD!)
Edited by P50 on Sunday 14th December 17:19
P50 said:
I suppose the logic is if a decent restored car is up for 70-80 then what price for a uber low mile original?
Well it can't be less can it so by default it has to be more!
So there you have it children, a 92,000pounds common garden 3.2 sport coupe.
You're better off with a nice £45 grand car that you can actually use as this thing will be harmed by the mileage going on. if you can find one - hang on, now I'm saying that a really good 3.2 G50 at £45k is cheap?!! WTF?! four months ago that £50k ovno G50 silver coupe with 40k miles seemed expensive!
Bunch of arse I tell thee!
The silver with black leather 41k mile car was top money at £50k.Well it can't be less can it so by default it has to be more!
So there you have it children, a 92,000pounds common garden 3.2 sport coupe.
You're better off with a nice £45 grand car that you can actually use as this thing will be harmed by the mileage going on. if you can find one - hang on, now I'm saying that a really good 3.2 G50 at £45k is cheap?!! WTF?! four months ago that £50k ovno G50 silver coupe with 40k miles seemed expensive!
Bunch of arse I tell thee!
Too many people getting carried away with the hype.
The overpriced car list that aren't selling is getting longer. Hexagon £92k (blue), PS £80k (silver), Early911 £55k (black). They haven't sold because the market thinks they're overpriced.
These prices make cheaper cars look cheap, but they're not.
g7jhp said:
P50 said:
I suppose the logic is if a decent restored car is up for 70-80 then what price for a uber low mile original?
Well it can't be less can it so by default it has to be more!
So there you have it children, a 92,000pounds common garden 3.2 sport coupe.
You're better off with a nice £45 grand car that you can actually use as this thing will be harmed by the mileage going on. if you can find one - hang on, now I'm saying that a really good 3.2 G50 at £45k is cheap?!! WTF?! four months ago that £50k ovno G50 silver coupe with 40k miles seemed expensive!
Bunch of arse I tell thee!
The silver with black leather 41k mile car was top money at £50k.Well it can't be less can it so by default it has to be more!
So there you have it children, a 92,000pounds common garden 3.2 sport coupe.
You're better off with a nice £45 grand car that you can actually use as this thing will be harmed by the mileage going on. if you can find one - hang on, now I'm saying that a really good 3.2 G50 at £45k is cheap?!! WTF?! four months ago that £50k ovno G50 silver coupe with 40k miles seemed expensive!
Bunch of arse I tell thee!
Too many people getting carried away with the hype.
The overpriced car list that aren't selling is getting longer. Hexagon £92k (blue), PS £80k (silver), Early911 £55k (black). They haven't sold because the market thinks they're overpriced.
These prices make cheaper cars look cheap, but they're not.
But it seems the 308/328GTB which was the quasi rival to the 3.2 has also gone through the roof.
It's all a load of old nonsense. Trouble is decent unrestored 3.2 coupes simply do not come up. Likewise original RHD 964 manual coupe.
So we seem to have a stalemate! If you own any classic car it's 99% not going to be on finance thus owners can stick two fingers up for the cream. The S1 E Type flat floor is big money now. Aston DB's are insane.
I have a 1972 RHD Fiat 500 with 11k miles from new unrestored with a bit of 70's not brilliant minor paint rectification. There is a ceiling to its value. It's not for sale but should I ever wish to sell it, it won't be cheap. But it's a very rare example. Not a welded up 12 owner non matching number heap.
If sellers want to try it on with mediocre machines then good luck to them. It's the same with houses in Zone1/2 London. It's cooled. But Notting Hill will alway be Notting Hill. When that falls out of bed we'll all in deep doggy doo!
But....
There is a lot of monied people around and if they can see a profit then they'll punt. They will also bail if the market starts correcting thus supply/demand will go very up...
Edited by P50 on Sunday 14th December 19:30
P50 said:
When that falls out of bed we'll all in deep doggy doo!
But....
There is a lot of monied people around and if they can see a profit then they'll punt. They will also bail if the market starts correcting thus supply/demand will go very up...
Agree. Here's hoping we see a correction, so we get back to true enthusiasts driving these fantastic cars again!But....
There is a lot of monied people around and if they can see a profit then they'll punt. They will also bail if the market starts correcting thus supply/demand will go very up...
mudy said:
SidewaysSi said:
Is it me or is the market cooling somewhat? There seems to be cars hanging around for a while including E30 M3s, GT3s etc. which would have flown out a few months ago.
`more likely the time of year; wait till the spring and we'll be off with round 2!SidewaysSi said:
Possibly. The London property market has cooled and I think it has coincided with the car market. Totally unscientific with the Asian economy on the downturn, is it sustainable?
With an election next year I'd imagine people holding off until they've seen the result and what that means for the economy. I remember only 6-7 years ago going to look at a Celebration G50 car, 75k miles, good condition and at £12k. And do you know what, not kicking myself, it just wasn't that special.
I find this SC and 3.2 thing all a little bit silly now. I am sure other will most definitely disagree but it's gone a bit mad of late. I was speaking to a dealer recently who was selling an 87 targa super sport at £34,995 and next to it was an absolute mint black on black, one owner 996 Turbo for the same money. Now I have owned very,very good SC's and 3.2s and have driven a 996 turbo and cannot see why you would buy the older cars for the same money? I bought both mine in the £10k bracket 6-7 years ago and drove them both daily, superb, incredible cars.............for £10k but at £35k....please.
As the thread suggests HYPE. I would have another 3.2 tomorrow and am in the market but I am not paying that money, hence it will probably cool down if people start thinking the same.
I suppose it all fits with the plethora of "vintage" 911 videos popping up all over the place, adding to the fever. Picture the scene, sunlight rising, trees gently blowing in the wind, guy gently rubs his hand against his vintage, patina'd jeans. He is in his workshop with his file, working to fashion a leather strap for the door pull. He is from Birmingham but now lives in Califronia, oh the dream......the dream. He wipes himself down and CLUNK the door opens and he gets in fires the beast and we are off. He is close to tears as he regails us with stories rich in the very fabric of porsche, as genuine as any pascha pattern. He takes a corner at a heady 45mph, the drama, the noise, the soul........ooooops he has just cum on his patina'd denim. As the thick,warm and as yet coagulated liquid reaches his racing shoes, which Ferdinand gave him personally, he pulls up at the side of the road. He gets out to watch the day begin, with a vista before him more spectacular than mere words could ever convey. This is the dream brothers, this is the life for me........now where that £35k and how do I grow dreadlocks?
I find this SC and 3.2 thing all a little bit silly now. I am sure other will most definitely disagree but it's gone a bit mad of late. I was speaking to a dealer recently who was selling an 87 targa super sport at £34,995 and next to it was an absolute mint black on black, one owner 996 Turbo for the same money. Now I have owned very,very good SC's and 3.2s and have driven a 996 turbo and cannot see why you would buy the older cars for the same money? I bought both mine in the £10k bracket 6-7 years ago and drove them both daily, superb, incredible cars.............for £10k but at £35k....please.
As the thread suggests HYPE. I would have another 3.2 tomorrow and am in the market but I am not paying that money, hence it will probably cool down if people start thinking the same.
I suppose it all fits with the plethora of "vintage" 911 videos popping up all over the place, adding to the fever. Picture the scene, sunlight rising, trees gently blowing in the wind, guy gently rubs his hand against his vintage, patina'd jeans. He is in his workshop with his file, working to fashion a leather strap for the door pull. He is from Birmingham but now lives in Califronia, oh the dream......the dream. He wipes himself down and CLUNK the door opens and he gets in fires the beast and we are off. He is close to tears as he regails us with stories rich in the very fabric of porsche, as genuine as any pascha pattern. He takes a corner at a heady 45mph, the drama, the noise, the soul........ooooops he has just cum on his patina'd denim. As the thick,warm and as yet coagulated liquid reaches his racing shoes, which Ferdinand gave him personally, he pulls up at the side of the road. He gets out to watch the day begin, with a vista before him more spectacular than mere words could ever convey. This is the dream brothers, this is the life for me........now where that £35k and how do I grow dreadlocks?
Edited by ro55a on Friday 19th December 19:05
Edited by ro55a on Friday 19th December 19:07
^^No, not Magnus, just one of the omnipresent and ever so sentimental souls who yearns for that deep satisfying throb from their rear mounted, thrusting, aircooled power unit. Indeed, to tease out from the alumni just one character would be churlish at best.
Now if you will excuse me, I am off to turn, with my oil stained and weathered fingers, the slightly yellowed and curled edges of a Porsche manual from a by gone era. I will be perched, ever so precariously on a bar stool, looking down at the pages and then staring woefully into the distance, fixated and fascinated with the wonder, the wonder of the aircooled flat six and all it's glory.
Now if you will excuse me, I am off to turn, with my oil stained and weathered fingers, the slightly yellowed and curled edges of a Porsche manual from a by gone era. I will be perched, ever so precariously on a bar stool, looking down at the pages and then staring woefully into the distance, fixated and fascinated with the wonder, the wonder of the aircooled flat six and all it's glory.
IMI A said:
IMI A said:
Wozy68 said:
IMI A said:
Err Indoors said:
Just ridiculous going to be some serious shirt losing, anybody who would buy a 3.2 for 80k is just plain stupid, and there's nothing more dangerous than a fool with money.
Good luck to them i'll put my mortgage on a serious implosion very soon.
You said that when they were changing hands for £30k Good luck to them i'll put my mortgage on a serious implosion very soon.
I'd pay £50k for this day night long. http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... In fact if there were 10 in this condition I'd buy them all and tuck them away.
Edited by IMI A on Saturday 11th October 10:00
Compared to my 993, they have in common that they both have full OPC history, Certificate of Authenticity and low ownership. What they don't share is mileage, mines over double of this 3.2. I can see the condition will be better on the 3.2, but it can't be 2 or 3x better.
Is a 3.2 really worth two or three times the price of a 993? I've owned both, and IMO not a chance. I really do think this is madness, well either that or the 993 is seriously under priced.
Edited by Wozy68 on Monday 13th October 10:50
Its a lovely honest car but certainly not concourse in my book - God knows when it was last winning concourse events but I'd be v.surprised if it was recently. Forget £74,995 even £50,000 would be top top money for it in my book. Having said that as good cars are getting scarce I'd still buy it for £50,000 but not a penny more. Its certainly no better than the 3.2C I have and in some ways less desirable as it has no sports seats, no short shift, and personally I think black is a better colour but thats just personal preference. For an allegedly concourse car the quality of the paint wasn't brilliant IMO but maybe detail would sort it out. Its had a bit of paint here and there too and some odd small nicks and scratches for an allegedly concourse winning car.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
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