5p Plastic Bag Charge
Discussion
Mr Trophy said:
Just so I am crystal clear OP, for example, you go to Macy D's and buy food which comes in a bag - one bag.
You have an issue of paying 5p for this, which goes to charity?
Yes, the issue for me is which charity ? I rate the majority of 'charities' as scams which pay their staff huge salaries, bonuses etc etc.You have an issue of paying 5p for this, which goes to charity?
I have no problem taking my own bags if going to the supermarket (which I do at the moment).
I already pay a huge chunk of my wages to charity (the taxman).
I am against this, why is the government getting involved in something like this ? The answer of course is bending over backward to the green lobby, but will it actually make any difference to the environment and global warming, I doubt it
Who is going to police this ? What is to stop a company taking the 5p per bag and only donating a small percentage to charity ?
Who is going to police this ? What is to stop a company taking the 5p per bag and only donating a small percentage to charity ?
driver67 said:
StescoG66 said:
I work in this industry myself for a wholesaler in Glasgow. I may know him.......
Lol, same initials as me (DL).Forget it - remembered his name, not the same guy.
Edited by 750turbo on Tuesday 14th October 18:33
So does this imply that as you now "purchase" a carrier bag that under consumer law, it has to be suitable for purpose and therefore if it gets a hole in it within the usual 12 months you can take it back with the receipt and get your money back? Or indeed ask for a refund by taking them back within a period of time?
Whatever happened to the old Safeway Tree-saver bags? They were allegedly made out of recycled paper, so were more environmentally friendly, but seemed to fall out of favour a few decades ago.
Does anyone believe that Tesco, Morrisons, ASDA and the like will give 5p/bag to charity, or will an "administration fee" of 4p/bag be applied first?
Does anyone believe that Tesco, Morrisons, ASDA and the like will give 5p/bag to charity, or will an "administration fee" of 4p/bag be applied first?
I think its a bit of a joke in terms of it being another money making excercise but I guess its a good thing really.
I went to Sainsburys at lunch and would normally buy something 'unhealthy' I left with Homous and bread sticks as I would be seen carrying these items lol - another positive. Maybe.
I went to Sainsburys at lunch and would normally buy something 'unhealthy' I left with Homous and bread sticks as I would be seen carrying these items lol - another positive. Maybe.
Very silly idea in my opinion. If it really was about the environment, they shouldn’t have included paper bags. I’ll be very surprised if much (if any) of the money makes it to charities, as it is only ‘enouraged’ and not mandatory. Don’t think I’ll be alone in having to start buying bin bags now
Irritating also that they say on the Cleaner Scotland website that there are a few exceptions, but fail to list them – anybody know what they are?
Irritating also that they say on the Cleaner Scotland website that there are a few exceptions, but fail to list them – anybody know what they are?
Viperz888 said:
Irritating also that they say on the Cleaner Scotland website that there are a few exceptions, but fail to list them – anybody know what they are?
BBC News website said:
What are the exceptions?
Most notably, any single-use carrier bag used only to contain unpackaged foods for human or animal consumption are excluded from the charge.
This means the paper bags in greengrocers' and the plastic fruit and vegetable bags in supermarkets are still free, except if you use them for anything other than naked food.
Small bags, like the ones used to package greetings cards and sweets, are always free, as are the paper bags that pharmacists use to dispense medicines.
Pet shop owners may be interested to know that bags used to transport unpackaged animal food and live aquatic creatures are also excluded.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29687760Most notably, any single-use carrier bag used only to contain unpackaged foods for human or animal consumption are excluded from the charge.
This means the paper bags in greengrocers' and the plastic fruit and vegetable bags in supermarkets are still free, except if you use them for anything other than naked food.
Small bags, like the ones used to package greetings cards and sweets, are always free, as are the paper bags that pharmacists use to dispense medicines.
Pet shop owners may be interested to know that bags used to transport unpackaged animal food and live aquatic creatures are also excluded.
In greater detail: ( http://carrierbagchargescotland.org.uk/guidance/wh...)
The Regulations specify a number of exemptions where there is no requirement to charge for carrier bags.
Bags of any size used solely to contain exempted items listed in the Regulations:
Unpackaged food for human or animal consumption; such as loose fruit and vegetables, bakery items, pick and mix sweets and dry animal food.
Unpackaged loose seeds, bulbs, corms or rhizomes, such as grass seeds, daffodil bulbs or root ginger.
Any unpackaged axe, knife, knife blade or razor blades; such as a kitchen knife which is mounted on cardboard but not then enclosed in wrapping.
Unpackaged goods contaminated by soil; such as soil, compost, potted plants, fishing bait and wormery worms.
Certain medicinal products; such as fullfilling prescription requests and pharmacy medication which can only be dispensed by a qualified pharmacist.
Please be aware that the above exemptions are only valid where the bag provided is used solely to contain one or more of these listed items.
It is the responsibility of the seller to ensure that bags are used to solely contain the items above. This can be achieved by only providing bags of a size suitable for containing items on the list.
‘Unpackaged’ for the purpose of the Regulations refers to items which are “wholly or partially unwrapped” such as chips from quick service restaurants or food supplied in containers which are not secure enough to prevent fluid leaking during normal handling.
1 Bags of a certain size used solely to contain packaged uncooked meat, poultry and fish:
As well as the above exemption on unpackaged foods, there is no obligation to charge if the bag is used SOLELY to contain packaged uncooked fish or fish products, packaged uncooked meat or meat products or packaged uncooked poultry or poultry products.
This exemption only applies where the bag is less than 206mm (width) x 459mm (height including handles) with a maximum gusset of 125mm.
2 Small bags that can always be supplied free of charge:
Small paper bags, no greater than 175mm x 260mm, without a handle and/or a gusset. These types of bags are generally used for small items such as greeting cards.
Small paper bags, no greater than 155mm x 80mm, without a handle but with a gusset of no more than 50mm. These types of bags are generally used for pick and mix confectionary or in pharmacies for non-prescription medicines.
Small flat plastic bags, no greater than 125mm x 125mm, without a handle. These types of bags are usually used for small hardware or haberdashery items such as screws or buttons.
3 Certain specialist bags are also exempted from the requirement to charge:
Mail order dispatch or courier bags for the delivery of goods.
Bags used for the transport of live aquatic creatures.
Liners used to cover boxes, crates or other containers of a similar nature.
4 Bags of any size used to contain items purchased in airports and on board vehicles, vessels and aircraft:
There is no obligation to charge for supplying single use carrier bags on board ships, trains, aircraft, coaches or buses. This bag does not have to be used solely to contain purchases made on board the vehicle.
There is no obligation to charge for supplying single use carrier bags in restricted areas in airports, including duty free shops and other airside retail outlets.
The Regulations specify a number of exemptions where there is no requirement to charge for carrier bags.
Bags of any size used solely to contain exempted items listed in the Regulations:
Unpackaged food for human or animal consumption; such as loose fruit and vegetables, bakery items, pick and mix sweets and dry animal food.
Unpackaged loose seeds, bulbs, corms or rhizomes, such as grass seeds, daffodil bulbs or root ginger.
Any unpackaged axe, knife, knife blade or razor blades; such as a kitchen knife which is mounted on cardboard but not then enclosed in wrapping.
Unpackaged goods contaminated by soil; such as soil, compost, potted plants, fishing bait and wormery worms.
Certain medicinal products; such as fullfilling prescription requests and pharmacy medication which can only be dispensed by a qualified pharmacist.
Please be aware that the above exemptions are only valid where the bag provided is used solely to contain one or more of these listed items.
It is the responsibility of the seller to ensure that bags are used to solely contain the items above. This can be achieved by only providing bags of a size suitable for containing items on the list.
‘Unpackaged’ for the purpose of the Regulations refers to items which are “wholly or partially unwrapped” such as chips from quick service restaurants or food supplied in containers which are not secure enough to prevent fluid leaking during normal handling.
1 Bags of a certain size used solely to contain packaged uncooked meat, poultry and fish:
As well as the above exemption on unpackaged foods, there is no obligation to charge if the bag is used SOLELY to contain packaged uncooked fish or fish products, packaged uncooked meat or meat products or packaged uncooked poultry or poultry products.
This exemption only applies where the bag is less than 206mm (width) x 459mm (height including handles) with a maximum gusset of 125mm.
2 Small bags that can always be supplied free of charge:
Small paper bags, no greater than 175mm x 260mm, without a handle and/or a gusset. These types of bags are generally used for small items such as greeting cards.
Small paper bags, no greater than 155mm x 80mm, without a handle but with a gusset of no more than 50mm. These types of bags are generally used for pick and mix confectionary or in pharmacies for non-prescription medicines.
Small flat plastic bags, no greater than 125mm x 125mm, without a handle. These types of bags are usually used for small hardware or haberdashery items such as screws or buttons.
3 Certain specialist bags are also exempted from the requirement to charge:
Mail order dispatch or courier bags for the delivery of goods.
Bags used for the transport of live aquatic creatures.
Liners used to cover boxes, crates or other containers of a similar nature.
4 Bags of any size used to contain items purchased in airports and on board vehicles, vessels and aircraft:
There is no obligation to charge for supplying single use carrier bags on board ships, trains, aircraft, coaches or buses. This bag does not have to be used solely to contain purchases made on board the vehicle.
There is no obligation to charge for supplying single use carrier bags in restricted areas in airports, including duty free shops and other airside retail outlets.
s2kjock said:
driver67 said:
I rate the majority of 'charities' as scams which pay their staff huge salaries, bonuses etc etc.
Did you report these charities to the Office of the Scottish Charity Regulator or the Charity Commission in England in Wales?____________________
This quote is very apt :-
“A charity that relies in the main part on taxes is no more a charity than a prostitute is your girlfriend”.
Over 27,000 UK registered charities now receive more income from government 'grants' than publicly donated income.
(Mostly Labour socialist fronted charities).
sources :-
http://order-order.com/2012/06/27/taxpayer-funded-...
http://www.iea.org.uk/blog/how-the-government-uses...
_________________-
I take it your a limp wristed left winger who believes in the global climate scam as well ?
Children in Need sitting on £87.75m
http://www.pistonheads.com/Gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Asda's charity of choice :- ^^^^^^^^^
Bottom line is the whole scam is socialist war chest build.
Edited by driver67 on Monday 20th October 19:29
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