Witness In Court - Claiming Lost Earnings
Discussion
Macadoodle said:
walm said:
His boiler's gone so he is a home-owner - the 1% (ex-London) house price inflation over the last year from the government printing money will easily put him quids in relative to this lost £120.
Eh? Your saying that because my house has gone up in value then it's all ok then? What an odd thing to say. How do know I'm not in negative equity?So - net net, you haven't been too hard done by the "system".
(And that still applies in negative equity - you are just less negative!)
I was really continuing the theme of life not being fair - both good and bad.
Macadoodle said:
If you go back on the thread you'll see my income is made up with a shift rate percentage premium because of the long anti-social hours I do as part of my job
Exactly. And you're not doing those long anti-social hours, so why should you get the premium which is intended to compensate for that?TooMany2cvs said:
Macadoodle said:
If you go back on the thread you'll see my income is made up with a shift rate percentage premium because of the long anti-social hours I do as part of my job
Exactly. And you're not doing those long anti-social hours, so why should you get the premium which is intended to compensate for that?Does the fact that people will be financially disadvantaged if they offer to be a witness make them more or less likely to offer?
"Sorry mate, I didn't see it". Kerchiing.
TooMany2cvs said:
WinstonWolf said:
Does the fact that people will be financially disadvantaged if they offer to be a witness make them more or less likely to offer?
"Sorry mate, I didn't see it". Kerchiing.
May I refer you back to my very first reply?"Sorry mate, I didn't see it". Kerchiing.
walm said:
TooMany2cvs said:
walm said:
I was pointing out that often what the government might give with one hand - house price inflation in this case
Since when were the government involved in setting house prices?Not to get too tin-foil-hat but have you heard of "Help-to-buy"?
TooMany2cvs said:
Macadoodle said:
If you go back on the thread you'll see my income is made up with a shift rate percentage premium because of the long anti-social hours I do as part of my job
Exactly. And you're not doing those long anti-social hours, so why should you get the premium which is intended to compensate for that?OP, have you tried contacting the CPS and explaining your situation? It is not unheard of people doing so in similar circumstances where they stand to lose out considerably, and then either say they'll go to the police to give a retraction statement, or may conveniently turn out to be utterly useless on the stand and sink the case, forcing the CPS to either reshuffle their deck or apply for an agreement over the evidence you intend to give.
I was always told to live to my basic pay and treat any overtime/bonus as a Bonus.
If the OP has an empty fridge simply by losing a few hours premium rate then I think he needs to reconsider his finances.
And before you ask, I earn no where near the amounts most of you guys do so it's not a case of looking down on the poor guy.
If the OP has an empty fridge simply by losing a few hours premium rate then I think he needs to reconsider his finances.
And before you ask, I earn no where near the amounts most of you guys do so it's not a case of looking down on the poor guy.
Just thought I'd update this thread for those of you who were on the edge of your seat...
The court date is next week so I decided to have a chat with my shift supervisor. I explained it all about the fact that as I'm a witness, and not doing jury service, the court won't give me a Certificate of Loss of Earnings and I'd only get the thirty odd quid expenses for the time I'd be at court, whilst having to take a whole day off work.
His reply was "Well, that's total b
ks", and has come to the rescue. I think it appealed to his inner shop steward (he is the staff union rep) as he was annoyed at the combination of red tape and injustice.
The plan now is to go to court and give my evidence, but rather than go home after, I will go into work and do the rest of my shift. He said he will sign my clock card giving me permission to be away from work, and what's more, will ensure that I am paid from my normal start time too! He also said bks to the Welfare dept and managment as well, and that what they dont know wont hurt them. Happy days 
The court date is next week so I decided to have a chat with my shift supervisor. I explained it all about the fact that as I'm a witness, and not doing jury service, the court won't give me a Certificate of Loss of Earnings and I'd only get the thirty odd quid expenses for the time I'd be at court, whilst having to take a whole day off work.
His reply was "Well, that's total b
ks", and has come to the rescue. I think it appealed to his inner shop steward (he is the staff union rep) as he was annoyed at the combination of red tape and injustice.The plan now is to go to court and give my evidence, but rather than go home after, I will go into work and do the rest of my shift. He said he will sign my clock card giving me permission to be away from work, and what's more, will ensure that I am paid from my normal start time too! He also said b
ks to the Welfare dept and managment as well, and that what they dont know wont hurt them. Happy days 
hora said:
OP you arent having to slave away for 12hours for once. You are being paid a standard days wage for little time/input in return for doing your civic duty.
Jesus wept
hora, perhaps you missed the post where I said I won't be getting a standard days wage? The court don't issue a Certificate of Loss of Earnings for witnesses, only jury service. The most they give is expenses, which is a lot less. Thankfully my supervisor stepped in to sort things out. As it happens I was in court for about seven hours, so not exactly a five minute job.Jesus wept
As for Jesus, he'd receive more, what with being a self employed carpenter
Anyway, the end result of all this is that the defendant was found guilty of all charges. Careless driving, failing to stop at the scene of an accident and failing to report the accident. Seven points and a fine of £260.
If it wasn't for my statement they would have got off.
Job done
Macadoodle said:
hora, perhaps you missed the post where I said I won't be getting a standard days wage? The court don't issue a Certificate of Loss of Earnings for witnesses, only jury service. The most they give is expenses, which is a lot less. Thankfully my supervisor stepped in to sort things out. As it happens I was in court for about seven hours, so not exactly a five minute job.
As for Jesus, he'd receive more, what with being a self employed carpenter
Anyway, the end result of all this is that the defendant was found guilty of all charges. Careless driving, failing to stop at the scene of an accident and failing to report the accident. Seven points and a fine of £260.
If it wasn't for my statement they would have got off.
Job done
Well done for seeing it thorough, and fair play to your manager too. As for Jesus, he'd receive more, what with being a self employed carpenter
Anyway, the end result of all this is that the defendant was found guilty of all charges. Careless driving, failing to stop at the scene of an accident and failing to report the accident. Seven points and a fine of £260.
If it wasn't for my statement they would have got off.
Job done
Good result all round.
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