No heaters when driving ?

No heaters when driving ?

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Delboy1974del

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11 posts

115 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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As above basically !!
When im driving my Tuscan the blowers go cold.
On Idle they warm up.
All electrical connections to the heating components seem to be fine

Has anyone got any ideas what could be wrong ?

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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Has someone removed the thermostat.

Delboy1974del

Original Poster:

11 posts

115 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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Not that i am aware of !!
Where is it located and ill take a look tomorrow

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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The thermostat housing is in the front drivers side of the cylinder head. It outputs to a hose which the connects to the coolant tank.

Delboy1974del

Original Poster:

11 posts

115 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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Thanks for that
ill have a wee look tomorrow if i get a chance.

TVRJAS

2,391 posts

129 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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I certainty don't know if the heating systems are the same as Chimaera's,maybe someone does but.....

I had this on my Chim,no hot air when driving but if left just idle or stationary traffic the heat would rise.

This was working in conjunction with the thermostat gauge,i could drive for 1hr and the temp gauge would only just slightly move(58-60) reading on the gauge cold air. If stopped for awhile the temp gauge would rise as did the heat.Once on the move again the temp gauge would start to fall back to 58-60 and I would loose the hot air heat.

The thermostat has already been mentioned but Powers sorted mine out and a new 82 deg thermostat + chim heater control box and heater ECU were fitted.

Personally my theory had assumed it was just a Thermostat,but unfortunately not.The temp gauge and heat work perfect now,I can even get cool if required.



Edited by TVRJAS on Wednesday 8th October 23:23

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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TVRJAS said:
I certainty don't know if the heating systems are the same as Chimaera's,maybe someone does but.....

I had this on my Chim,no hot air when driving but if left just idle or stationary traffic the heat would rise.

This was working in conjunction with the thermostat gauge,i could drive for 1hr and the temp gauge would only just slightly move(58-60) reading on the gauge cold air. If stopped for awhile the temp gauge would rise as did the heat.Once on the move again the temp gauge would start to fall back to 58-60 and I would loose the hot air heat.

The thermostat has already been mentioned but Powers sorted mine out and a new 82 deg thermostat + chim heater control box and heater ECU were fitted.

Personally my theory had assumed it was just a Thermostat,but unfortunately not.The temp gauge and heat work perfect now,I can even get cool if required.




Edited by TVRJAS on Wednesday 8th October 23:23
Seriously.... Did you change the thermostat before you sent it to power. What apart from cold coolant going round the system then warn coolant providing the heat at idle would be different. Happy to be enlightened.

On a speed six there are two coolant sensors in the head. One for the dash one for the ecu.

Although the heater matrix and associated items are the last thing I haven't changed lol.



Edited by m4tti on Thursday 9th October 19:52

NCE 61

2,386 posts

281 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Could be the stepper motor that opens/closes the heater flap.

TVRJAS

2,391 posts

129 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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m4tti said:
Seriously.... Did you change the thermostat before you sent it to power. What apart from cold coolant going round the system then warn coolant providing the heat at idle would be different. Happy to be enlightened.

On a speed six there are two coolant sensors in the head. One for the dash one for the ecu.

Although the heater matrix and associated items are the last thing I haven't changed lol.



Edited by m4tti on Thursday 9th October 19:52
Yep serious I'm afraidnerd

It was booked in for a service and manifold gaskets and was on the list of a few things to look at the same time.

They did sort it by adding £400 to my bill(Parts&labor). A phone call would of been nice to at least tell me it's not just a £15 thermostat. But this is something I am hearing/reading quite often,my take on it is that they are so used to handing out such large bills that they don't consider that an extra £400 hurts some people.If I had been told it was this price I would of told them to leave it for now and done as you sugest.

When things like this happen it makes me feel like I fell in love with the wrong brand of car,as I'm classed as a person who loves TVR's but when things go wrong I need a specialist as I can't do it myself(That's can't and don't want to).

It did annoy me and I have a stubborn side to me which means the next service is going elsewhere.

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Ok let's make this thread more useful.

Nick,
Do you know why the stepper motor problem manifest only when driving and not at idle.

Tvrjas,
Sorry to hear your tale, I'm still sceptical of the ultimate diagnosis you recieved. Hopefully with other input we can add value to this thread.

. I've recently rebuilt my speed six and I can tell you now, (hence my scepticism) the wife's TT looks like sonething developed by NASA in comparison.

TVRJAS

2,391 posts

129 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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m4tti said:
Sorry to hear your tale, I'm still sceptical of the ultimate diagnosis you recieved.

It's the unfortunate position I put myself in having mechanical skills on the scale of 1 and having to put my faith and trust on those that do know.

Sorry to hear your tale of rebuild..

Jas

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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If you've seen my readers card threads, there's better stuff coming up biggrin

You ain't heard nothing yet laugh

TVRJAS

2,391 posts

129 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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m4tti said:
If you've seen my readers card threads, there's better stuff coming up biggrin

You ain't heard nothing yet laugh
yikes I presumed you meant rebuild by one of the specialists... I'm amazed

Just been reading... Full respect Matt


NCE 61

2,386 posts

281 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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m4tti said:
Nick,Do you know why the stepper motor problem manifest only when driving and not at idle.
I had a similar issue with my MK1 you would get some heat out of the vents when stationary, but when driving would become cold.The heat could have been from the normal heat soak when stationary and the extra air flow when moving cooled the air down again. Any way if I remenber correctly the stepper motor arm was adjusted I don't know how and the heater worked correctly again.

NCE 61

2,386 posts

281 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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There is some good information on the stepper motor in this Topic