Rolling Road Results

Rolling Road Results

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R8VXF

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6,788 posts

114 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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For a bit of fun I have created a centralised resource for recording the results of any and all RR results you may have. This is a totally non-scientific analysis of what certain modifications MAY achieve and in no way should be used to complain to manufacturers/dyno operators.

Please use one line per result, recording what modifications were present at the time of the test.

http://1drv.ms/1uFPhL5

Edited by R8VXF on Sunday 12th October 12:50

ringram

14,700 posts

247 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Good plan.

But no not allow people to enter dyno results from any other dyno than SRR otherwise you sheet will become useless.
Also only accept rwhp numbers from SRR again for the same reason.

Thats my advice smile

007 VXR

64,187 posts

186 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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ringram said:
Good plan.

But no not allow people to enter dyno results from any other dyno than SRR otherwise you sheet will become useless.
Also only accept rwhp numbers from SRR again for the same reason.

Thats my advice smile
cant see an issue with adding both rw and fly hp?
but must have rwhp.

R8VXF

Original Poster:

6,788 posts

114 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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ringram said:
Good plan.

But no not allow people to enter dyno results from any other dyno than SRR otherwise you sheet will become useless.
Also only accept rwhp numbers from SRR again for the same reason.

Thats my advice smile
That was why I added the RR column at the end, so that different dynos can be differentiated. Plus, it is a bit unfair to expect people to only go to SRR when it could be quite a trek for them. Will also be a good comparison of dynos if someone runs the same setup at two different ones.

granada203028

1,482 posts

196 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Yes this would be good for those of us who would like to see more rigour and objectivity in the tuning arena.

I note Blue666UK has a near stock 04 CV8 - the K & N won't make much difference - so this would be an opportunity to verify the Wortec "wonder" remap:

http://www.monkfishperformance.co.uk/wortec-essent...

After the session Blue666UK please get this done and then we can see how much better it is in a latter Surry session, plus your subjective assessment.

On the face of it 21% mid range torque increase from just a remap seams to good to be true but Monkfish strongly defend it, though their website no longer shows the graph, reproduced below.



I have an 05 for which a quantified remap is not available. Maybe some one will turn up with one at Surry.

R8VXF

Original Poster:

6,788 posts

114 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Good call, will also add a remap column when I get home unless someone else wants to before then. Also going to add in my beemers remap results.

R8VXF

Original Poster:

6,788 posts

114 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Have added in the Engine Map column, please can everyone update their information.

ARAF

20,759 posts

222 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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Good idea. Done - though ours is in a group of one, so I don't think comparisons will matter.

wormus

14,496 posts

202 months

Thursday 9th October 2014
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ringram said:
Good plan.

But no not allow people to enter dyno results from any other dyno than SRR otherwise you sheet will become useless.
Also only accept rwhp numbers from SRR again for the same reason.

Thats my advice smile
Here you go big guy, saved you the trouble of going:



smile

R8VXF

Original Poster:

6,788 posts

114 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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Anyone else have historic runs they can record on here? Added in fwhp as that was all I had for the beemer.

Gary H 2008

3,507 posts

188 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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3-
Stock 'Bathurst S' charger set up on an LS2
Stock charger set up + Water Meth injection and map
Current set up

007 VXR

64,187 posts

186 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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R8VXF said:
Anyone else have historic runs they can record on here? Added in fwhp as that was all I had for the beemer.
my last run was
671.6 fly
533.4 rwhp

ARAF

20,759 posts

222 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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R8VXF said:
Anyone else have historic runs they can record on here? Added in fwhp as that was all I had for the beemer.
How do you want us to record historic details? I've popped in an extra line, for last year - though you may want to create other pages for it instead? Some here have has previous models, and some are greedy and have more than one at a time.

KMud

2,924 posts

155 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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Ineligible, but here's what I got on the PowerStation (Tewkesbury) dyno - think it was Wortec sport pac, although I don't recall if I had the OTR back then. Probably not. I post this because it's a common setup. PowerStation's dyno is notorious for slightly low WHP (something to do with dual rollers apparently...), but is meant to be pretty accurate at the flywheel FWIW. There was a lot of discussion when I originally posted this, so not looking to get sucked into a debate...


R8VXF

Original Poster:

6,788 posts

114 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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ARAF said:
R8VXF said:
Anyone else have historic runs they can record on here? Added in fwhp as that was all I had for the beemer.
How do you want us to record historic details? I've popped in an extra line, for last year - though you may want to create other pages for it instead? Some here have has previous models, and some are greedy and have more than one at a time.
A line for each run/car is best as then graphing over time becomes possible smile

R8VXF

Original Poster:

6,788 posts

114 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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Starting to get some good stats together. Have also put a chart in to easily visualise the data.

Xpuffin

9,209 posts

204 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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Data submitted from several sources will make this table on the whole pointless.
The only way to make comparisons is from the same dyno, on the same day.

Gary H 2008

3,507 posts

188 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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Agree totally about same dyno...but same day?!
You might as well say 'if the results weren't done at the same time (i.e run concurrently) then that sudden burst of sunshine may have raised the ambient and effected my result biggrin

That statement confuses me Jez - how else would you do before and after testing?

Xpuffin

9,209 posts

204 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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Gary H 2008 said:
Agree totally about same dyno...but same day?!
You might as well say 'if the results weren't done at the same time (i.e run concurrently) then that sudden burst of sunshine may have raised the ambient and effected my result biggrin

That statement confuses me Jez - how else would you do before and after testing?
Well in the case of an FI build, a summer result would have a fair chance of being less than a winter result due to heat.
Air temperature, density humidity etc. all factors that can have a bearing on the results. Whilst these are considered, it isn't an exact science.
Even gearing can make a difference.
I bet if you took your car in and ran it every day for a month there would be a spread of results.
And yes it's that critical, look to racing to see how much difference an atmospheric variation can make.
Whilst it's only a small percentage it could easily wipe off or add enough horsepower to make a significant difference.

Edited by Xpuffin on Saturday 11th October 21:53

stevieturbo

17,229 posts

246 months

Saturday 11th October 2014
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There should be weather compensations applied so the results shouldnt be greatly affected.


Although it would actually make for an interesting test.

Same car, same dyno....and dyno it every day for a year. Or maybe even once a week.