UKIP - The Future - Volume 3

[Mrr T]

Esseesse said:

Mrr T said:

My own view is 2015, 2 seats, a few second places, and gone in 2020.

What if the Euro question rears it's head around 2020?

Do you mean after Ed has signed us up for the € in 2017. To late then.

[Esseesse]

Mrr T said:

Esseesse said:

Mrr T said:

My own view is 2015, 2 seats, a few second places, and gone in 2020.

What if the Euro question rears it's head around 2020?

Do you mean after Ed has signed us up for the € in 2017. To late then.

Hmmm... yes you have some point. Too late though? Is it ever too late?

[brenflys777]

Mrr T said:

First we all accept a Miliband government will be truly a disaster for the UK. So UKIP really do not care about the UK.
.

I don't. Looking at some of the polls neither do about 30+% of voters!

Accusing anyone who has different political opinions of not caring about the UK sounds a bit intolerant.

[Mrr T]

brenflys777 said:

Mrr T said:

First we all accept a Miliband government will be truly a disaster for the UK. So UKIP really do not care about the UK.
.

I don't. Looking at some of the polls neither do about 30+% of voters!

Accusing anyone who has different political opinions of not caring about the UK sounds a bit intolerant.

Do we have different political views?

I am economically right of centre, believe in low taxes, work, small government. I believe in individual freedom, and freedom of speech. I also believe we should leave the EU. However, I am not that worried about free movement of labour in the EU.

I will vote tory despite not liking much about CMD because a) the tory party is more than CMD and b) I do not want to see labour in power.

[MGJohn]

Mrr T said:

I will vote tory despite not liking much about CMD because a) the tory party is more than CMD and b) I do not want to see labour in power.

...................... Is the WRONG answer.

[steveT350C]

It seems Mr. Farage did pretty well on some program called Loose Women earlier today. Of course did not watch it myself but #loosewomen very positive.

Eta, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2JsVfBQBs5c

Let's see if the #loosewomen comments are at all accurate

Edited by steveT350C on Thursday 5th March 18:45

[Scuffers]

just to keep on topic..

Romanian pickpocket stole 22 mobile phones from dancers at Kasabian gig within days of arriving in Britain ‘for a better life’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2979303/Ro...

so, another economy enriching migrant!

[brenflys777]

Mrr T said:

brenflys777 said:

Mrr T said:

First we all accept a Miliband government will be truly a disaster for the UK. So UKIP really do not care about the UK.
.

I don't. Looking at some of the polls neither do about 30+% of voters!

Accusing anyone who has different political opinions of not caring about the UK sounds a bit intolerant.

Do we have different political views?

I am economically right of centre, believe in low taxes, work, small government. I believe in individual freedom, and freedom of speech. I also believe we should leave the EU. However, I am not that worried about free movement of labour in the EU.

I will vote tory despite not liking much about CMD because a) the tory party is more than CMD and b) I do not want to see labour in power.

You've said that Milliband will be disastrous for the UK and so UKIP do not care about the UK. It's nonsense.

Firstly a vote for UKIP doesn't necessarily make it more likely for Milliband to beat the conservatives. Even if it did so, it doesn't follow that UKIP don't care about the UK. Just different political viewpoints. Secondly we must have different political viewpoints because I don't think that Milliband will be disastrous for the UK anymore so than Cameron. Both will be dire. Labour wrecked my pension, frittered away the economy, deliberately encouraged unsustainable un integrated immigration and wasted lives and treasure on foreign wars. The Conservatives are wrecking the Police, frittering money on foreign aid, are unwilling to reduce immigration, depleting the Armed Forces and are wasting lives and treasure on foreign wars.

IMO a majority government from either Milliband or Cameron will be disastrous.

[brenflys777]

steveT350C said:

It seems Mr. Farage did pretty well on some program called Loose Women earlier today. Of course did not watch it myself but #loosewomen very positive.

Eta, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2JsVfBQBs5c

Let's see if the #loosewomen comments are at all accurate

Edited by steveT350C on Thursday 5th March 18:45

I've been on standby for work all day and heard Farage was going to be interviewed by some loose women, so took a peek. It was tamer than it sounds, but has to be one of his best interviews. Despite the shows name he wasn't given an easy ride but he was allowed to answer without too many interruptions and my overriding impression is that not one of the other leaders would have got away with being so open about his opinions and not trying to fit in. Farage was much better than his sometimes overly combative reaction to regular political interviewers.

[steveT350C]

brenflys777 said:

steveT350C said:

It seems Mr. Farage did pretty well on some program called Loose Women earlier today. Of course did not watch it myself but #loosewomen very positive.

Eta, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2JsVfBQBs5c

Let's see if the #loosewomen comments are at all accurate

Edited by steveT350C on Thursday 5th March 18:45

I've been on standby for work all day and heard Farage was going to be interviewed by some loose women, so took a peak. It was tamer than it sounds, but has to be one of his best interviews. Despite the shows name he wasn't given an easy ride but he was allowed to answer without too many interruptions and my overriding impression is that not one of the other leaders would have got away with being so open about his opinions and not trying to fit in. Farage was much better than his sometimes overly combative reaction to regular political interviewers.

Been trying to find demographics and viewing figures..

Anywhere around 1m women basically. That is a lot of mouths talking!

[JustAnotherLogin]

brenflys777 said:

Firstly a vote for UKIP doesn't necessarily make it more likely for Milliband to beat the conservatives.

If the vote would have otherwise be cast for the conservatives, then it definitely does it make it more likely for Miliband to win. Mathematically that is certain, though in some constituencies the difference may be minor. If not then I agree with you.

[0a]

An excellent interview - very professional, in my opinion. UKIP have their problems but a couple of recent outings I have caught have been impressive.

[brenflys777]

JustAnotherLogin said:

brenflys777 said:

Firstly a vote for UKIP doesn't necessarily make it more likely for Milliband to beat the conservatives.

If the vote would have otherwise be cast for the conservatives, then it definitely does it make it more likely for Miliband to win. Mathematically that is certain, though in some constituencies the difference may be minor. If not then I agree with you.

If the vote belonged to the conservatives I'd agree, but in this election I wouldn't vote for the conservatives or labour. We seem to be saying the same thing with a different emphasis.

If they want my vote back to either they will have to be more inspiring than 'vote for me because the other guy is worse!' In the Midlands where I live and more so in the North where I grew up there is more chance of UKIP picking up some of the Labour seats than the Conservatives. Not the same everywhere, but we vote for a candidate not against them.

[don4l]

Zod said:

don4l said:

Zod said:

K, let's talk about cutting the debt over the short term. Leaving aside the tiny foreign aid budget, what would you cut to reduce the debt, given we can't just rely on increased tax receipts from the return of growth? Really big cuts are need to make any dent in the debt, so I look forward to your answer.

I won't leave aside the foreign aid budget, because the first thing that I would do would be to restore it to the 2009/2010 level. This would reduce the deficit by £8Bn, or 5%.

Next up would be anything to do with climate change. The Hadley Centre would be closed down. All staff that are working on climate change in DECC and the DoE would lose their jobs.

Thoose two steps would reduce the deficit by about 7% and the public wouldn't notice that anything had changed.

I thought you wanted to talk about the debt, not the deficit.

My apologies.

You had been talking about the deficit, so I assumed that was more important to you.

To cut the debt, the deficit needs to be eliminated, and we need to run a surplus.

If we could run a £100Bn a year surplus, then we could eliminate the debt in only 15 years. However, you know as well as I do that is never going to happen (without inflation).

I notice that you completely ignored the savings that would reduce our annual borrowings by 7%. Is this because you don't think that such waste matters? If we reduce the deficit, then the debt grows more slowly. Don't you agree that this would be a good thing?

[anonymous-user]

Scuffers said:

just to keep on topic..

Romanian pickpocket stole 22 mobile phones from dancers at Kasabian gig within days of arriving in Britain ‘for a better life’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2979303/Ro...

so, another economy enriching migrant!

Using that logic:
http://rt.com/uk/237245-ukip-children-brainwashing...

so, another racist, homophobic UKIP member!

[Axionknight]

cookie118 said:

Using that logic:
http://rt.com/uk/237245-ukip-children-brainwashing...

so, another racist, homophobic UKIP member!

Allegedly

[Zod]

don4l said:

My apologies.

You had been talking about the deficit, so I assumed that was more important to you.

To cut the debt, the deficit needs to be eliminated, and we need to run a surplus.

If we could run a £100Bn a year surplus, then we could eliminate the debt in only 15 years. However, you know as well as I do that is never going to happen (without inflation).

I notice that you completely ignored the savings that would reduce our annual borrowings by 7%. Is this because you don't think that such waste matters? If we reduce the deficit, then the debt grows more slowly. Don't you agree that this would be a good thing?

both are important to me, as they are to you. Currently the deficit is reducing, so the debt is growing more slowly. We both agree that is a good thing. We are never going to eliminate the debt and that does not matter. We should reduce it. By how much is a question over which economists can argue. All most will agree is that the current level is too high.

[Scuffers]

cookie118 said:

Scuffers said:

just to keep on topic..

Romanian pickpocket stole 22 mobile phones from dancers at Kasabian gig within days of arriving in Britain ‘for a better life’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2979303/Ro...

so, another economy enriching migrant!

Using that logic:
http://rt.com/uk/237245-ukip-children-brainwashing...

so, another racist, homophobic UKIP member!

care to explain this one?

To be honest, you've lost me?

[NicD]

Scuffers said:

cookie118 said:

Scuffers said:

just to keep on topic..

Romanian pickpocket stole 22 mobile phones from dancers at Kasabian gig within days of arriving in Britain ‘for a better life’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2979303/Ro...

so, another economy enriching migrant!

Using that logic:
http://rt.com/uk/237245-ukip-children-brainwashing...

so, another racist, homophobic UKIP member!

care to explain this one?

To be honest, you've lost me?

his perverted 'logic' has equated sentenced crimes with unsubstantiated claims by an embittered ex wife.

[Yazar]

brenflys777 said:

steveT350C said:

It seems Mr. Farage did pretty well on some program called Loose Women earlier today. Of course did not watch it myself but #loosewomen very positive.

Eta, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2JsVfBQBs5c

Let's see if the #loosewomen comments are at all accurate

Edited by steveT350C on Thursday 5th March 18:45

I've been on standby for work all day and heard Farage was going to be interviewed by some loose women, so took a peek. It was tamer than it sounds, but has to be one of his best interviews. Despite the shows name he wasn't given an easy ride but he was allowed to answer without too many interruptions and my overriding impression is that not one of the other leaders would have got away with being so open about his opinions and not trying to fit in. Farage was much better than his sometimes overly combative reaction to regular political interviewers.

Superb interview, but you wouldn't expect any less from him. His honesty went down well regarding family life I am sure.

Excellent idea to do the show, nice to see him being treated as normal rather than the 'racist' tag being attempted every 5 minutes like he is used to!