Bike thief drowns after cycling straight into harbour.

Bike thief drowns after cycling straight into harbour.

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oyster

12,594 posts

248 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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dele said:
oyster said:
I guess having ambulance crews take risks to resuscitate people, or police to visit homes of bereaved familes is ok to you is it? And what about the £millions spent on inquests? All ok is it so you can satisfy the bloodhungry lust of the uneducated?
Sorry, I really dont understand what point you are trying to make here? confused
Not sure it needs much explanation does it. What bit isn't clear?


anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Pretty surprising that so many heartless & crass comments have been allowed on a public forum TBH, even where reported . Nobody's death should be celebrated or condoned . What's up with you guys?
Time to leave methinks..

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Jimboka said:
Pretty surprising that so many heartless & crass comments have been allowed on a public forum TBH, even where reported . Nobody's death should be celebrated or condoned . What's up with you guys?
Time to leave methinks..
its not the sort of place where he would get a lot of sympathy and as far as I am concerned he deserves none.

dfen5

2,398 posts

212 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Jimboka said:
Pretty surprising that so many heartless & crass comments have been allowed on a public forum TBH, even where reported . Nobody's death should be celebrated or condoned . What's up with you guys?
Time to leave methinks..
Bike thief orchestrates his own demise. Very few people demonstrate an 'outpouring of grief' shock.

Nobody's death should be celebrated or condoned. Hitler? Bin Laden? rolleyes

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Jimboka said:
Time to leave methinks..


"We've got one!"


Edited by grumbledoak on Thursday 16th October 18:42

jbudgie

8,912 posts

212 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Jimboka said:
Pretty surprising that so many heartless & crass comments have been allowed on a public forum TBH, even where reported . Nobody's death should be celebrated or condoned . What's up with you guys?
Time to leave methinks..
rolleyes

NicD

3,281 posts

257 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Jimboka said:
Pretty surprising that so many heartless & crass comments have been allowed on a public forum TBH, even where reported . Nobody's death should be celebrated or condoned . What's up with you guys?
Time to leave methinks..
Nobodys?

your opinion, for what it is worth.

I would happily celebrate many peoples death, for example, most people who cause misery to others.

TankRizzo

7,265 posts

193 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Jimboka said:
Pretty surprising that so many heartless & crass comments have been allowed on a public forum TBH, even where reported . Nobody's death should be celebrated or condoned . What's up with you guys?
Time to leave methinks..
You won't leave.

Pit Pony

8,541 posts

121 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Joey Ramone said:
Pints said:
About 20 years ago I had my bicycle stolen. That bike was bought by me having worked long hours at low wage as a school boy, and was my pride and joy. At the time I'd have thought drowning was too good for the thief.
With 2 decades to reconsider that view, I probably think that drowning would be about right.
Better hope you don't get burgled and lose something genuinely precious then. Otherwise your decades long suppressed sense of bitter rage will kill you, and the thief will be laughing his tits off.
Harsh. At the time his bike was stolen it's value, can be measured in the early mornings, late nights, blood sweat and tears, delivering those papers, (extra weight and houses on a Wednesday when it's the local weekly), up hill and down dale, in wind rain snow sleet, and sunshine - bloody hot sunshine, so hot that your hands burn on the handlebars and the sweat drips from inside your ears. That bike was worth as much to him as your children are to you. Probably. Pints - I feel your pain.

Pit Pony

8,541 posts

121 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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As an aside, my wife recently told me I'm not "allowed" to cycle along the tow path of the local canal, as I might fall in.

Apparently I am "allowed" to cycle on unlit, unclassified single track roads, where the frequent users, see the NSL as a target.

I think my response to this was "Yeah, I could fall in and have a heart attack due to the sudden cold, so I'll just have to give up cycling altogether, as it's obviously too dangerous put on 6 stone and die of a heart attack anyway. Or maybe I could get better lights?"

carinaman

21,290 posts

172 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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The press are saying that the IPCC are investigating the actions of MoD and civilian police in this incident.

Someone was telling me that that harbour isn't that deep there, so any thoughts I had about jumping in to get the chap out may not have been that clever.

One press report mentioned 'rising water levels'. As the harbour has a lock gate type entrance perhaps the deceased suspected bicycle thief became submerged if they opened the lock gate to allow the rescue boats in?

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Well it CANNOT be the fault of the bike thief

I hope the full force of the law is thrown at the owner of the bike for this blatant murder

silly

Vaud

50,450 posts

155 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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carinaman said:
The press are saying that the IPCC are investigating the actions of MoD and civilian police in this incident.

Someone was telling me that that harbour isn't that deep there, so any thoughts I had about jumping in to get the chap out may not have been that clever.

One press report mentioned 'rising water levels'. As the harbour has a lock gate type entrance perhaps the deceased suspected bicycle thief became submerged if they opened the lock gate to allow the rescue boats in?
You can't just "open a lock gate" - gates open outwards, held closed by the pressure of water.

walm

10,609 posts

202 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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carinaman said:
Someone was telling me that that harbour isn't that deep there, so any thoughts I had about jumping in to get the chap out may not have been that clever.

One press report mentioned 'rising water levels'. As the harbour has a lock gate type entrance perhaps the deceased suspected bicycle thief became submerged if they opened the lock gate to allow the rescue boats in?
1. He was trapped between the harbour wall and a big old boat. Jumping in to save him would be madness no matter how deep the water.
2. He was drowning because he couldn't swim and the water was too deep for him to stand in from the very beginning. Extra water wouldn't make any difference.
3. It's a harbour for yachts so the water level is always maintained at a high level so the boats remain afloat. The lock is opened when the water outside is high enough. i.e. opening the lock would only ever lower the water level if anything. (And as above, you can't open it then anyway.)

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Jimboka said:
Pretty surprising that so many heartless & crass comments have been allowed on a public forum TBH, even where reported . Nobody's death should be celebrated or condoned . What's up with you guys?
Time to leave methinks..
You clearly have no idea of how much misery and distress this kind of 'petty' crime causes for ordinary law abiding people.

My parents, who are in their 60's, had their house burgled for the first time ever about 6 months ago. They live in the countryside and a a good few hundred metres from the nearest other property, and surrounded by fields on all sides.

They were away for a long weekend at the time robbery, and the thieves entered 3 rooms separately from the outside of the house by prising out windows from their frames. We assume this was to avoid detection by the alarm sensors which mainly operate in all the hallways and external doors.

They made a total mess as they ransacked the rooms they entered which included my dads office and their bedroom, clearly looking for cash, jewellery etc.

Numerous things were broken as they gained access to locked items in the office and bedroom.

Thankfully, my parents had put anything of value in their safe before they went away, and the thieves pretty much got nothing bar some cash and a couple of lower value watches. We think it was the discovery of a few hundred in cash and watches that persuaded them to scarper rather than start on antiques and paintings etc.

The effect on my parents personally was shocking. My mum was upset for weeks and my dad was utterly incandescent with anger.

The police were useless and pretty much said "tough luck, it happens. we probably won't catch them. Sorry about that".

My mum no longer felt safe sleeping in their own bedroom and insisted they move into one of the other bedrooms which faces the driveway rather than open fields and trees.

They feel absolutely violated that some scumbags would intrude upon and desecrate their home in such a way.

My mum is still a bit upset over it and worries they will come back for more, and my dad is asking me how he can go about legally getting a shotgun or other weapons, of which I have talked him out of.

If I got told right now that the criminals responsible had crashed their car and died in a fireball while fleeing another burglary then you know what, I would feel quite satisfied.

For all the expense and distress these scumbags cause? fk them.

Pints

18,444 posts

194 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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clap

Well said, Mr Ninja.

tvrolet

4,267 posts

282 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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NinjaPower said:
Jimboka said:
Pretty surprising that so many heartless & crass comments have been allowed on a public forum TBH, even where reported . Nobody's death should be celebrated or condoned . What's up with you guys?
Time to leave methinks..
You clearly have no idea of how much misery and distress this kind of 'petty' crime causes for ordinary law abiding people.
Absolutely. I obviously knew break-ins and theft 'caused distress', but I guess I had no real comprehension of the level of 'distress' until I was on the receiving end myself. Distress? More like furious anger, and pure hate towards the culprits in may case I'd say.

After my mother died I was trying up her house - everything had been removed but I was going down every evening (about 40 miles away) and cleaning the place up. One time someone had broken in - jemmied door and broken doorframe. Nothing of value stolen, but jeez I was absolutely furious...and 4 years later when I think about it I still am.

If I was made aware they had died as a consequence of one of their other 'petty' crimes would I celebrate? Actually...yes. I would gladly toast their demise with a 'good riddance'. And consequently I will celebrate the removal of any other thieving scum from decent society.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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I just don't get the bleedin heart brigade. I very very much doubt this was his first offence and that there are a host of good decent people who have suffered at his hands.
I have far more sympathy with those he will have caused upset to.

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Jimboka said:
Pretty surprising that so many heartless & crass comments have been allowed on a public forum TBH, even where reported . Nobody's death should be celebrated or condoned . What's up with you guys?
Time to leave methinks..
wavey

Vaud

50,450 posts

155 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Jimboka said:
Pretty surprising that so many heartless & crass comments have been allowed on a public forum TBH, even where reported . Nobody's death should be celebrated or condoned . What's up with you guys?
Time to leave methinks..
Lots of people's deaths can be celebrated. Murderers who show no remorse can happily be celebrated. Child abductors. etc. I will happily smile and feel happier if they are no longer alive.

As for a thief stealing a bike and dying as he tries to escape the police through a self inflicted injury? I won't be shedding a tear.