Telling "friend" from "foe".. armed forces on the street.

Telling "friend" from "foe".. armed forces on the street.

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Chicken

143 posts

136 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Crossflow Kid said:
I've been near a few ships of the Grey Funnel Line in my time and there are usually a few sailor types wandering around aimlessly, carrying a factory-fresh SA-80 wondering what it is, so whilst there may be military personnel carrying weapons in the civilian world, it appears the Navy do things the other way around.
silly
Safest place to be when a skate is shooting is right in front of them!!
Saying that, when I did my pistol training my grouping was measured in yards not inches smile

donutsina911

1,049 posts

183 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Crossflow Kid said:
I've been near a few ships of the Grey Funnel Line in my time and there are usually a few sailor types wandering around aimlessly, carrying a factory-fresh SA-80 wondering what it is, so whilst there may be military personnel carrying weapons in the civilian world, it appears the Navy do things the other way around.
silly
meanwhile the RAF are ready for action...biglaugh




Mojocvh

16,837 posts

261 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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donutsina911 said:
Crossflow Kid said:
I've been near a few ships of the Grey Funnel Line in my time and there are usually a few sailor types wandering around aimlessly, carrying a factory-fresh SA-80 wondering what it is, so whilst there may be military personnel carrying weapons in the civilian world, it appears the Navy do things the other way around.
silly
meanwhile the RAF are ready for action...biglaugh

One on the right is de-mob happy....

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

261 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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mph1977 said:
Zoobeef said:
Mill Wheel said:
Curious that UK Gov. thinks uniformed soldiers would be perceived that way.
In Paris, nobody gives them a second glance - although of course they do have the Gendarmerie in France which is more military in operation than police, so perhaps they don't find the camo clad soldiers much different.

I'm sure Lewis Collins won't be missed - they'll probably have Sean Bean stand in, or Pierce Brosnan!
It's not soldiers in uniform that is seen as bad, that's fine although putting a target on your head round Woolwich isn't a great idea, but uniformed soldiers basically doing a police officers job on the streets isn't a good look.
it's also a bit of the Napoleonic Civll law vs Anglo Common law differences.

French local police 'Police Municipale' or 'Garde Champetre' are plastic police,
the Police Nationale do the normal policing - but traffic policing the heavy duty policing falls to the Paramilitary Gendarmes .

the Peel Model and the actual concept of Policing by consent seperate the Police and military totally - hence the reason that in mainland UK Service Police are not Sworn Constables ( and where they work in mixed environments end up functioning like the French Municipal Police if they have to detain / arrest a civvie ) and why MODplod are civvies not service personnel .
You may find the way this thread develops interesting...post 25'ish...

http://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/549064-ex-...

Edited by Mojocvh on Wednesday 22 October 12:07

Mill Wheel

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6,149 posts

195 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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http://news.sky.com/story/1358205/canada-police-hu...

Some reports have the soldier wounded.

Mill Wheel

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6,149 posts

195 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29753347

Yet another, this time with an axe.

ISIS have called upon sympathisers in the west to rise up in this manner, against the police and armed forces at home, so this could potentially happen in any western country at any time.

All it takes is one fanatic to listen and heed the call...

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Nasty.

At least some of ours aren't coming back: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29771293

Mill Wheel

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6,149 posts

195 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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hora said:
Callous but I rather none of them cameback. Damaged goods doesnt even start to describe such people.
Plenty more to take their place unfortunately.

I notice that the recent events in Canada have sharpened attention somewhat.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/111...

Mill Wheel

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6,149 posts

195 months

Thursday 8th January 2015
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Following the Charlie Hebdo attack, there appears to have been a copycat attack which has resulted in the death of a policewoman.
Any chance that some radicalised fundamentalist in the UK might seek his own path to glory?

In December, there were two separate incidences of drivers simply ploughing into pedestrians in France - and as a result 300 additional troops were drafted onto the streets... to no avail as yet. frown

chryslerben

1,168 posts

158 months

Friday 9th January 2015
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donutsina911 said:
Agree with all, other than 'rather have the Navy send someone'....ever seen a Matelot with a gun?!
Guns are mounted on ships it's the rifles you don't want to give to them hehe

Why is the Duggan case even open for review, he was a scum bag that played with fire and got burnt open and shut case in my mind?

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 9th January 2015
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Mill Wheel said:
Following the Charlie Hebdo attack, there appears to have been a copycat attack which has resulted in the death of a policewoman.
Any chance that some radicalised fundamentalist in the UK might seek his own path to glory?

In December, there were two separate incidences of drivers simply ploughing into pedestrians in France - and as a result 300 additional troops were drafted onto the streets... to no avail as yet. frown
There are people with the desire.

The international terrorism threat assesses the risk as severe and the MI5 DG's comments don't make for great reading: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30734290