Would you report a UK plated SORN car being used abroad?

[TooMany2cvs]

kapiteinlangzaam said:

TooMany2cvs said:

kapiteinlangzaam said:

I can just imagine rocking up to my local Dutch MOT station in my UK plated car..... stop being a knob would their reaction I should imagine!!

Taking an NL-registered car to a UK MOT station for a UK MOT is one of the first steps of importing that NL-reg car to the UK... I'd imagine the same is true in reverse.

Its not the same thing, so whats your point? The UK station issues a UK MOT (on the chassis number IIRC in case of import), not a Dutch one, and vice versa. Apart from anything else, we are not talking about an import situation.

Yeeesssss... You said about taking a UK-plate car to an APK station. They certainly would test it, and might even give it an APK. Obviously, they wouldn't give it a UK MOT, since they're not a UK MOT station. Or a Spanish ITV station. Nor would that APK or ITV make it legal in the UK... But they certainly wouldn't tell you to stop being a knob.

[TooMany2cvs]

kapiteinlangzaam said:

They would if I tried to ask for a UK MOT

Aye, that's true.

kapiteinlangzaam said:

I think you have mis-interpreted (or I have lazily written) my original post, which was in reply to a poster suggesting that it would be possible to take a UK car to any EU garage and receive a valid UK MOT, which AFAIK cannot (ever) happen, but would be interested to hear otherwise.

Yep, we're in agreement there. I'm sure there are Spanish garages whichh will give a "UK MOT", though, and it might even appear on VOSA's computers. But they'll have one hell of a surprise if ever a VOSA inspector turns up to the (UK) garage actually issuing the MOT and wonders why the car that the computer says is being tested is a thousand miles away...

[Robert Elise]

only an authorised MoT station can issue an MoT cert, and they are ALL in the UK. If your MoT expired while abroad you might consider getting a local equivalent before driving home so that local police are satisfied. Local police will ask for licence, insurance, V5 and possibly technical inspection (especially in France where they know how to read an MoT cert). As much as anything else, police are charged with achieving a level of fines per day, so lack of documentation is an easy one.
Without an MoT your insurance maybe be technically invalid, but the police are less interested in that more complex paperchase, and if you have an inspection from there country then you're "inspected" as far as they're concerned.

These issues are my concern as i pay insurance and drive on the roads. report them.

[SS2.]

Robert Elise said:

Without an MoT your insurance maybe be technically invalid..

What does 'technically invalid' mean ?

[confused_buyer]

kapiteinlangzaam said:

They would if I tried to ask for a UK MOT I think you have mis-interpreted (or I have lazily written) my original post, which was in reply to a poster suggesting that it would be possible to take a UK car to any EU garage and receive a valid UK MOT, which AFAIK cannot (ever) happen, but would be interested to hear otherwise.

That it not what I posted. I said it is possible to take a non-UK car to a UK MOT station and them an issue an MOT. Similarly you could take a UK registered car to a ITV station in Spain.

MOT's now have a "Country of Registration" box on them - just below the chassis number.

[TooMany2cvs]

confused_buyer said:

I said it is possible to take a non-UK car to a UK MOT station and them an issue an MOT. Similarly you could take a UK registered car to a ITV station in Spain.

MOT's now have a "Country of Registration" box on them - just below the chassis number.

Yep. And that's for use when you're importing a car. You can put as many foreign MOT-equivalents onto a car as you like, unless it has one from the home country it's registered in, it ain't legal.

[Robert Elise]

SS2. said:

Robert Elise said:

Without an MoT your insurance maybe be technically invalid..

What does 'technically invalid' mean ?

To be frank, i don't exactly know...I meant that the insurance co might have a get-out if you don't have a full UK inspection (MoT) to prove "roadworthy condition", but, I suspect any EU inspection would suffice in reality, tho one from North Africa before getting the ferry back might not be...

However, insurance will require the vehicle to be road-legal too. So on this point, rather than the MoT itself, the car in Spain was illegal.
Guilty somewhere...

[confused_buyer]

TooMany2cvs said:

Yep. And that's for use when you're importing a car. You can put as many foreign MOT-equivalents onto a car as you like, unless it has one from the home country it's registered in, it ain't legal.

Something must have changed though as the box only appeared about 6 months ago.

As regards this car in Spain - there are always a few UK registered cars knocking about in Spain which have clearly taken up long term residence. I'm surprised they get away with it as the Spanish are not shy about roadside random checking or stops.

If a car is obviously always parked somewhere than at some point the Spanish police will check it so, personally, I'd leave it to them.

[SS2.]

Robert Elise said:

I meant that the insurance co might have a get-out if you don't have a full UK inspection (MoT) to prove "roadworthy condition", but, I suspect any EU inspection would suffice in reality, tho one from North Africa before getting the ferry back might not be...
However, insurance will require the vehicle to be road-legal too. So on this point, rather than the MoT itself, the car in Spain was illegal.
Guilty somewhere...

Hmm, a fair bit of guesswork and assumption in that little lot.

For instance, do you believe that a valid MOT certificate proves a vehicle to be in 'roadworthy condition' ? Or vice versa, for that matter ?

[Robert Elise]

SS2. said:

Robert Elise said:

I meant that the insurance co might have a get-out if you don't have a full UK inspection (MoT) to prove "roadworthy condition", but, I suspect any EU inspection would suffice in reality, tho one from North Africa before getting the ferry back might not be...
However, insurance will require the vehicle to be road-legal too. So on this point, rather than the MoT itself, the car in Spain was illegal.
Guilty somewhere...

Hmm, a fair bit of guesswork and assumption in that little lot.

For instance, do you believe that a valid MOT certificate proves a vehicle to be in 'roadworthy condition' ? Or vice versa, for that matter ?

Just checked, my AXA policy is explicit:
"ensure your car is in a roadworthy condition and has a valid MOT Certificate"

[SS2.]

Robert Elise said:

SS2. said:

Robert Elise said:

I meant that the insurance co might have a get-out if you don't have a full UK inspection (MoT) to prove "roadworthy condition", but, I suspect any EU inspection would suffice in reality, tho one from North Africa before getting the ferry back might not be...
However, insurance will require the vehicle to be road-legal too. So on this point, rather than the MoT itself, the car in Spain was illegal.
Guilty somewhere...

Hmm, a fair bit of guesswork and assumption in that little lot.

For instance, do you believe that a valid MOT certificate proves a vehicle to be in 'roadworthy condition' ? Or vice versa, for that matter ?

Just checked, my AXA policy is explicit:
"ensure your car is in a roadworthy condition and has a valid MOT Certificate"

And ?

[drewmatt84]

I am currently in Poland and plan to drive my UK registered car back to the UK.
The problem I have is my car is Scorn in the UK as the MOT has expired.
I have had a tehnical test in Poland to check is roadworthy and this is fine for my insurance. My question is what is the likely out come of being pulled over with no tax if my car is booked for an MOT on its arrival in the UK?

[lowdrag]

I do this all the time. I book an MOT first thing in the morning, get off the boat and head straight there. In all my years of foreign driving I have never been asked for an MOT and rarely insurance, just V5 and driving licence. I'll be doing it again at the beginning of September.