To remove the skirts or not..?

To remove the skirts or not..?

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Pheo

3,339 posts

202 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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paulrockliffe said:
If you want to do it without trashing the walls, screw some handles or bolt eyes to the skirting, do them in opposing pairs. Then use a cable and some sort of whiching mechanism to pull them off the walls in pairs by pulling against each other.
ooh good idea will try that on my hallway.

Great big bleeding coach nails.

jon-

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16,509 posts

216 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Wow. The rendering behind the skirts on the brick wall literally fell apart.

Hopefully there's still enough to nail into hehe

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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jon- said:
Wow. The rendering behind the skirts on the brick wall literally fell apart.
They all do that sir.

Bag of Bonding from Wickes will sort that.

jon-

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16,509 posts

216 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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B17NNS said:
jon- said:
Wow. The rendering behind the skirts on the brick wall literally fell apart.
They all do that sir.

Bag of Bonding from Wickes will sort that.
Really. Can't I just hide it with skirts?

paulrockliffe

15,700 posts

227 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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If you reattach asi suggested with dowels, you can just leave the dowels proud of the wall, so you'll only need to repair what's visible above the top of the skirting. As someone else mentioned, using taller skirtign will help you too.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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jon- said:
Really. Can't I just hide it with skirts?
Yeah, just wet the area prior (or use a bit of watered down PVA if you're feeling flush) then dub it out with bonding and rule it off flush. Gripfil your skirting onto that. If there is damage to plasterwork above the original skirting line go for a taller profile skirt. MDF is good, pre-primed and nice and stable. Bead of caulk on the top and at the joins and Bob's your brothers cousin.

Edited by B17NNS on Thursday 16th October 16:39

jon-

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Thursday 16th October 2014
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Me right now:



I'll get some pictures of the mess tomorrow. I still have to paint and put the flooring down so skirts won't be going on for a few days yet!

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Skirts go on prior to painting.

wolfracesonic

6,993 posts

127 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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By the sound of way things are going , A 3ft tall skirting should see you right OPthumbup

monthefish

20,443 posts

231 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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jon- said:
Me right now:



I'll get some pictures of the mess tomorrow. I still have to paint and put the flooring down so skirts won't be going on for a few days yet!
hehe

jon-

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Thursday 16th October 2014
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B17NNS said:
Skirts go on prior to painting.
Not in my house hehe

Aw crap.

jon-

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Friday 17th October 2014
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B17NNS said:
Skirts go on prior to painting.
On a serious note, why?

In my head it makes sense to paint the walls / ceiling before the floor is down, lay floor, attach Skirts with a big hammer, then paint Skirts... All while wearing a skirt!

ndg

560 posts

237 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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jon- said:
B17NNS said:
Skirts go on prior to painting.
On a serious note, why?

In my head it makes sense to paint the walls / ceiling before the floor is down, lay floor, attach Skirts with a big hammer, then paint Skirts... All while wearing a skirt!
Because you need to caulk the join between the wall and skirting?

jon-

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Friday 17th October 2014
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ndg said:
jon- said:
B17NNS said:
Skirts go on prior to painting.
On a serious note, why?

In my head it makes sense to paint the walls / ceiling before the floor is down, lay floor, attach Skirts with a big hammer, then paint Skirts... All while wearing a skirt!
Because you need to caulk the join between the wall and skirting?
Walls are white, caulk is white, does it need to be painted?

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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jon- said:
Walls are white, caulk is white, does it need to be painted?
It will be a different white. Joinery comes before decoration. Decoration is last other than carpet. Just do as you're told man hehe

paulrockliffe

15,700 posts

227 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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Even painted the same shade the caulk will look different because it's a different material at a different angle to the light. I've painted some in my house, but lots didn't need to be painted as it doesn't look obviously different.

I've not caulked all the walls as some of them were straight enough that the skirting could be fitted without a gap to caulk

I also painted all my walls before fitting the skirting as it is quicker to not have to mask and you can use a roller rather than a brush at the edge, so it looks better. Not sure why you'd do it the other way unless you knew you couldn't get a good enough fit to avoid caulk.

jon-

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Friday 17th October 2014
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Thanks guys, looks like I'll be painting first, joining, then probably painting again wink I'd rather paint without the new floor down.

As for attaching the skirting boards, I'm getting confused by all this talk of blocks etc. Once the floor is down surely I can just nail back into the sides, much like how the original skirts were attached?

Pictures of what was under the original skirts.




Pooky67

577 posts

159 months

Sunday 19th October 2014
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If the laminate is only temporary, what type of flooring will be going down afterwards?

(sorry if already mentioned!)

If the skirting is going to have to come off again in order to more easily remove the laminate or to fit other wood flooring, it may be best to plug the wall and screw the new skirting on. Leave the screws visible and don't bother caulking whilst you've got the temporary laminate down, then whip them off, change the floor, refit the skirting, fill over the screws and caulk once the new floor is in?

Chicken Chaser

7,803 posts

224 months

Sunday 19th October 2014
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It doesnt need to be overly tidy underneath the skirts, it looks like there's plenty to grab onto.

I'd nail them back up with nails with just a small head, nailing them into the skirt rather than flush. You'll end up with gaps at the top of the skirt between it and the wall anyway.

Then fill the holes made by the nails over the top prior to painting the skirt so you can't see the nail or holes and caulk the skirt at the top all around before brushing with a wet paintbrush to get a smooth finish.

THEN PAINT!

jon-

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216 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Pooky67 said:
If the laminate is only temporary, what type of flooring will be going down afterwards?

(sorry if already mentioned!)

If the skirting is going to have to come off again in order to more easily remove the laminate or to fit other wood flooring, it may be best to plug the wall and screw the new skirting on. Leave the screws visible and don't bother caulking whilst you've got the temporary laminate down, then whip them off, change the floor, refit the skirting, fill over the screws and caulk once the new floor is in?
It'll end up a bedroom, so I'll likely carpet it in a year or so, but then if the laminate looks ok, I could just put a rug in. Skirting is cheap, I'll just resign myself to buying more, though I might use slightly smaller nails this time than the huge square ones.

Chicken Chaser said:
It doesnt need to be overly tidy underneath the skirts, it looks like there's plenty to grab onto.

I'd nail them back up with nails with just a small head, nailing them into the skirt rather than flush. You'll end up with gaps at the top of the skirt between it and the wall anyway.

Then fill the holes made by the nails over the top prior to painting the skirt so you can't see the nail or holes and caulk the skirt at the top all around before brushing with a wet paintbrush to get a smooth finish.

THEN PAINT!
Thanks smile

The walls might be painted wink ! Hopefully I'll get the flooring down tomorrow then fresh skirts on next week, before painting the wood / radiators. The walls are brilliant white, so I'm not overly worried about caulk not matching.