FFord 2014 cars - where next?

FFord 2014 cars - where next?

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RenesisEvo

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3,608 posts

219 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Just curious and I can't find any answers at the moment. With the short-lived current FFord cars being superseded for next year for the F4 regs, where will all the cars go? What series could they be eligible for?

n3il123

2,607 posts

213 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Jonathon Palmer is buying them back (trade in) and they are going to be used at palmersport in Bedford I believe, thus offsetting the cost of the new cars for the teams.

RenesisEvo

Original Poster:

3,608 posts

219 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Thanks for the reply, I'd never have guessed that. It would be nice one day to run one in a monoposto series.

designndrive62

743 posts

157 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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n3il123 said:
Jonathon Palmer is buying them back (trade in) and they are going to be used at palmersport in Bedford I believe, thus offsetting the cost of the new cars for the teams.
That's palmers current F4 cars from the MSVR F4 championship he is buying back, not the Formula Ford Cars. Formula ford is separate completely and will become FIA Formula 4, with new chassis. MSVR Formula 4 will continue separately to the officially sanctioned F4 (current formula ford) but will also be changing chassis to meet the same base spec as the official F4, despite continuing to be run by MSVR (confusing, isn't it!).

The current formula ford cars will likely be sat in garages accross the country. One or two may appear in monoposto and the like

andy97

4,703 posts

222 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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n3il123 said:
Jonathon Palmer is buying them back (trade in) and they are going to be used at palmersport in Bedford I believe, thus offsetting the cost of the new cars for the teams.
Are you sure its the F Ford cars he is buying back? I thought it was the existing F4 cars from the series he runs that he was buying back in 2015, as an offset against new build F4 cars to the new FIA spec that he is going to run in Autumn 2015 and 2016.

http://f4-staging.motorsportvision.co.uk/news/brdc...

ETA: DD62 beat me to it!

andrewcliffe

959 posts

224 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Jonathan Palmer has offered an allowance of £ 15k on each old BRDC F4 against the new Tatuus built carbon tubbed car. He'll use them for experience day cars / driving school cars.

What happens to the Eco-boost Formula Ford chassis - well - who knows. As engines may get put into new cars, they may get re-engined and come out to play in various club championships - e.g. Monoposto.

n3il123

2,607 posts

213 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Of course you're all correct, I get confused with all the bloody different single seater categories that are out there these days frown

Graham

16,368 posts

284 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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mmmm will he take my formula 4 as a trade in.. 1967 imp powered lol

coppice

8,606 posts

144 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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n3il123 said:
Of course you're all correct, I get confused with all the bloody different single seater categories that are out there these days frown
Me too - shame that single seater racing in UK has utterly lost the plot . F3 virtually dead , Ecoboost FF poorly supported rubbish and F Renault very poorly. Still we have two Formula 4s (three if we count the 60's originals OK ) so that will work well..... We used to have the best single seater series in the world- FF1600/ FF2000 and F3 - and now we are stumbling in the dark and it is a crying shame

andrewcliffe

959 posts

224 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Problems set in a few years ago. Formula BMW was axed. Formula Renault UK was axed, and a glut of British talent immediately went to Europe to race and has stayed there. The fact that the Ecoboost Formula Ford was not popular didn't help.

All these series should have fed into British F3

There is a bit of a renaissance with BRDC F4, and hopefully MSA Formula (I still think it sounds like baby milk) can get some weight behind it with the might of Carlin and Fortec about it. I'm not sure there are enough drivers out there to justify the proposed relaunch of Formula Renault unless UK motorsport imports them from emerging markets - China, Russia, India.


marshal_alan

432 posts

178 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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unbolt the wings, drop in a kent engine and there you go. it seems crazy that the main area of growth in f-ford is with the kent classes with bold building new engines and ray doing such a good job with the chassis. about 10 of them came to scotland for the smrc series in 2014 alone