Discounts on 335 xdrive touring?
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2.5pi said:
Wills2 said:
I got about 9k off a car listing at 48k (July 2014)
Thanks for the feedback...btw at 48k did you go for the sport plus package and if so how is the ride and do the uprate brakes feel noticably better?Impressions of the car after about 1,500 miles are generally very favourable; in a bigger, heavier, car I reckon it offers similar straight line performance to my old E92 335i whilst using about 30% less fuel and the ride quality over poor roads is significantly better despite being on run-flats (my 335i was on conventional tyres). Having said that, I specced my car with adaptive suspension as personally I find the standard set-up a bit too soft if you're going quickly on an undulating road; that's obviously a personal thing but just bear in mind that none of the X-drive models have sport suspension (even the M-Sport versions!). However, regardless of suspension mode the F31 also feels a big, heavy, car in some situations and is less chuckable than the 335i (which in itself was no match for my much loved M3 CS); therefore, don't believe any of the idiots that try to tell you an F31 is a sports car because it's not! In terms of the brakes, I have to say that on occasion I've found the need to push the left pedal a little more firmly than expected but that may just be because I'm used to manuals and there's less engine braking with an auto (and a very good auto it is!).
Overall, then, the F31 gets a thumbs-up from me as a fast, practical, well-built, daily driver; in 335d form its also by far the most refined oil-burner I've experienced with even cold-starts being relatively rattle free. The downside is that it's not the most inter-active and engaging driving experience but if you want that you need petrol, manual and less weight IMHO!
JNW1 said:
Similar to the deal that Wills got; roughly 21% off a relatively high spec (£50k list) factory order car which was ordered at the end of August and delivered last month. Initially I was going to go for the M-Sport Plus Pack but when I was told that the supply issue with the brakes would delay delivery until February next year I had a rethink and once I'd decided that I wasn't really that bothered about the 19" wheels I went ahead with the standard wheels and brakes.
Impressions of the car after about 1,500 miles are generally very favourable; in a bigger, heavier, car I reckon it offers similar straight line performance to my old E92 335i whilst using about 30% less fuel and the ride quality over poor roads is significantly better despite being on run-flats (my 335i was on conventional tyres). Having said that, I specced my car with adaptive suspension as personally I find the standard set-up a bit too soft if you're going quickly on an undulating road; that's obviously a personal thing but just bear in mind that none of the X-drive models have sport suspension (even the M-Sport versions!). However, regardless of suspension mode the F31 also feels a big, heavy, car in some situations and is less chuckable than the 335i (which in itself was no match for my much loved M3 CS); therefore, don't believe any of the idiots that try to tell you an F31 is a sports car because it's not! In terms of the brakes, I have to say that on occasion I've found the need to push the left pedal a little more firmly than expected but that may just be because I'm used to manuals and there's less engine braking with an auto (and a very good auto it is!).
Overall, then, the F31 gets a thumbs-up from me as a fast, practical, well-built, daily driver; in 335d form its also by far the most refined oil-burner I've experienced with even cold-starts being relatively rattle free. The downside is that it's not the most inter-active and engaging driving experience but if you want that you need petrol, manual and less weight IMHO!
Great review ...thanks, I'm in no hurry so will go for sport plus as it includes HK and SPG which I'd have specced anyway.Impressions of the car after about 1,500 miles are generally very favourable; in a bigger, heavier, car I reckon it offers similar straight line performance to my old E92 335i whilst using about 30% less fuel and the ride quality over poor roads is significantly better despite being on run-flats (my 335i was on conventional tyres). Having said that, I specced my car with adaptive suspension as personally I find the standard set-up a bit too soft if you're going quickly on an undulating road; that's obviously a personal thing but just bear in mind that none of the X-drive models have sport suspension (even the M-Sport versions!). However, regardless of suspension mode the F31 also feels a big, heavy, car in some situations and is less chuckable than the 335i (which in itself was no match for my much loved M3 CS); therefore, don't believe any of the idiots that try to tell you an F31 is a sports car because it's not! In terms of the brakes, I have to say that on occasion I've found the need to push the left pedal a little more firmly than expected but that may just be because I'm used to manuals and there's less engine braking with an auto (and a very good auto it is!).
Overall, then, the F31 gets a thumbs-up from me as a fast, practical, well-built, daily driver; in 335d form its also by far the most refined oil-burner I've experienced with even cold-starts being relatively rattle free. The downside is that it's not the most inter-active and engaging driving experience but if you want that you need petrol, manual and less weight IMHO!
It replaces an X5 so will not be doing the "sporty" thing anyhow
Thanks again
I agree with JNW about the positives and negatives of the suspension. Excellent ride, but the softer springs take away some of the sharpness. The initial reaction to a sharp steering input is to shift its weight, which has a blunting effect. This is pretty minor and it still feels relatively nimble, but less so than an M Sport E9*.
I have just had my springs replaced with AC Schnitzer ones, and it makes a real difference. The impact on the ride is very slight, but the car now responds instantly to steering input. It now feels sharper than an F3* sDrive M Sport, and much closer to an E9* M Sport, but without the dreadful ride.
20-25% discount should be possible, depending on your negotiation skills!
I have just had my springs replaced with AC Schnitzer ones, and it makes a real difference. The impact on the ride is very slight, but the car now responds instantly to steering input. It now feels sharper than an F3* sDrive M Sport, and much closer to an E9* M Sport, but without the dreadful ride.
20-25% discount should be possible, depending on your negotiation skills!
Edited by 335d on Friday 17th October 08:55
Wills2 said:
Do you have adaptive suspension?
Yes, I have adaptive suspension. I still felt that the springs were a little too soft, and while firming up the dampers would improve the cornering, it felt like the dampers were being asked to something they weren't designed for in compensating for the springs.The combination of adaptive dampers and ACS springs makes quite a difference. With the dampers in Comfort mode, the car responds far more quickly to steering input than before, so it is capable of being driven quickly without feeling out of control. With the dampers in Sport mode, it feels very sharp.
There really doesn't appear to be much, if any downside. I think Comfort rides marginally less smoothly than before, although most others disagree.
I've been offered about £9.7k discount on a 335d with list of just over £50k. My brother bought the same car earlier this year and got about an extra grand off.
Interestingly I was told they could deliver for late November / early Dec (this is with M Plus pack) which is somewhat contrary to recent discussion on 'the other' 335d thread.
Interestingly I was told they could deliver for late November / early Dec (this is with M Plus pack) which is somewhat contrary to recent discussion on 'the other' 335d thread.
theboss said:
I've been offered about £9.7k discount on a 335d with list of just over £50k. My brother bought the same car earlier this year and got about an extra grand off.
Interestingly I was told they could deliver for late November / early Dec (this is with M Plus pack) which is somewhat contrary to recent discussion on 'the other' 335d thread.
Touring's aren't too bad on lead times. It was due to a spike in 335d saloons with M+ Pack.Interestingly I was told they could deliver for late November / early Dec (this is with M Plus pack) which is somewhat contrary to recent discussion on 'the other' 335d thread.
We've been advised to opt for 330d over 335d's Saloon wise if we need to replacement car this year.
theboss said:
I've been offered about £9.7k discount on a 335d with list of just over £50k. My brother bought the same car earlier this year and got about an extra grand off.
Interestingly I was told they could deliver for late November / early Dec (this is with M Plus pack) which is somewhat contrary to recent discussion on 'the other' 335d thread.
I would make the delivery date part of the deal, ie they agree to lend you an equivalent car if your car isn't there by early Dec. That should focus their minds on whether this is a realistic delivery date or some pipe dream.Interestingly I was told they could deliver for late November / early Dec (this is with M Plus pack) which is somewhat contrary to recent discussion on 'the other' 335d thread.
I had one arrive 8 months late many years ago...
335d said:
Wills2 said:
Do you have adaptive suspension?
Yes, I have adaptive suspension. I still felt that the springs were a little too soft, and while firming up the dampers would improve the cornering, it felt like the dampers were being asked to something they weren't designed for in compensating for the springs.The combination of adaptive dampers and ACS springs makes quite a difference. With the dampers in Comfort mode, the car responds far more quickly to steering input than before, so it is capable of being driven quickly without feeling out of control. With the dampers in Sport mode, it feels very sharp.
There really doesn't appear to be much, if any downside. I think Comfort rides marginally less smoothly than before, although most others disagree.
Wills2 said:
I was thinking about the springs but I've got a standard set up, TBH I'm now used to the handling and what to lose the ride comfort.
The loss of ride comfort is very marginal in my opinion - it still remains very good. Most others seem to think that it doesn't make it worse at all. I thought about it for a long time before doing it for the same reason as you. 335d said:
The loss of ride comfort is very marginal in my opinion - it still remains very good. Most others seem to think that it doesn't make it worse at all. I thought about it for a long time before doing it for the same reason as you.
To be honest, though, it's a poor do if you have to start modifying the suspension on a car with a list price of over £40k. I opted for the adaptive suspension because, having driven a standard X-drive, I decided it was just too floaty for my taste when pushing on; however, surely it shouldn't be beyond the wit of a company like BMW to provide a decent passive set-up without the need to spend extra on adaptive suspension? Having said that, I've very quickly grown to like the ride quality in the comfort setting for low-speed driving around town; for the first time in ages I've actually got a car where if you hit a pot-hole or a sunken man-hole cover it doesn't shake your teeth out! Gassing Station | BMW General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff