What does your watch say about you?

What does your watch say about you?

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tuscaneer

7,760 posts

225 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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SpeckledJim said:
I'd agree it looks great - it does, it's lovely.

I'd agree that it has provenance, but I'd question why that is relevant, given your rejection of being a brand snob (your term)

I'd not agree it is depreciation proof, certainly once the current phase of rapidly increasing new RRPs is over, so used values are no longer being pulled upwards.
fkin hell pal, you're exhausting me with the pedantics..........

it looks great. on that we agree.

it has provenance. I don't see how me liking the idea of the history and build quality of a particular item is brand snobbery. more being comfortable with the knowledge that you haven't just bought the next new craze. i'd liken it to buying a Ferrari over some of the more equally priced (and in some cases exquisitely engineered) weird and wonderful car marques out there. if I won the lottery I certainly would never buy a koenigsegg, gumpert or any other of these wacky cars........for no other reason than i'd be terrified of residual loss of value.

depreciation proof........it's not a ten year bond. i'm not daft enough to think it's an investment but a few grand on a rolex now gets you a few grand back in a few years time...give or take... I could sell mine tomorrow for pretty much what I paid for it. I could sell my car for a few grand more than I paid for it last year. i'm happy with the safety and stability brands like Ferrari and rolex offer.
dress that up how you will

Lorneg

228 posts

179 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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RobCh said:
Confusing timekeeper, then. To me it says nearly 8.20...
oops!

Blown2CV

28,798 posts

203 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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tuscaneer said:
SpeckledJim said:
I'd agree it looks great - it does, it's lovely.

I'd agree that it has provenance, but I'd question why that is relevant, given your rejection of being a brand snob (your term)

I'd not agree it is depreciation proof, certainly once the current phase of rapidly increasing new RRPs is over, so used values are no longer being pulled upwards.
fkin hell pal, you're exhausting me with the pedantics..........

it looks great. on that we agree.

it has provenance. I don't see how me liking the idea of the history and build quality of a particular item is brand snobbery. more being comfortable with the knowledge that you haven't just bought the next new craze. i'd liken it to buying a Ferrari over some of the more equally priced (and in some cases exquisitely engineered) weird and wonderful car marques out there. if I won the lottery I certainly would never buy a koenigsegg, gumpert or any other of these wacky cars........for no other reason than i'd be terrified of residual loss of value.

depreciation proof........it's not a ten year bond. i'm not daft enough to think it's an investment but a few grand on a rolex now gets you a few grand back in a few years time...give or take... I could sell mine tomorrow for pretty much what I paid for it. I could sell my car for a few grand more than I paid for it last year. i'm happy with the safety and stability brands like Ferrari and rolex offer.
dress that up how you will
that stability is not exactly accessible to most though, which might be what pisses them off. Not sure.

tuscaneer

7,760 posts

225 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Blown2CV said:
that stability is not exactly accessible to most though, which might be what pisses them off. Not sure.
fair point mate, I just don't get it. I may be a little higher than some in terms of what I can/ am willing to spend on cars/watches or whatever but I certainly don't look at people who spend far more than I do ( and there are literally thousands upon thousands of people who have got wwaaaaayyyy more to spend than me) with any animosity.
there are always going to be people more fortunate / less fortunate than 99.9% of the population.

XJSJohn

15,965 posts

219 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Lorneg said:
XJSJohn said:
so where does the omega speedie fit into this .....
Porsche 911, 'best thing around in the 1970's and even though the current version is undoubtedly better, it's living a little on that early kudos.'
well, my speedie is 17 years old so still "aircooled"

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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tuscaneer said:
fkin hell pal, you're exhausting me with the pedantics..........
smile Sorry, I'm just jousting.

Trying to get anyone who owns an expensive watch to admit to be being a bit of a poseur is an ongoing quest.

Blown2CV

28,798 posts

203 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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SpeckledJim said:
tuscaneer said:
fkin hell pal, you're exhausting me with the pedantics..........
smile Sorry, I'm just jousting.

Trying to get anyone who owns an expensive watch to admit to be being a bit of a poseur is an ongoing quest.
it's probably hard to get anyone to admit buying anything for pose value. We all know that there are people that do do it, but it's like the fourth wall because we all kind of do it to a degree with at least some things we buy... even if it's just a little. If no-one was interested in some degree of praise or validation from others about anything, then the world would be really fking different!

Lorneg

228 posts

179 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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If you find someone with a fake watch and a fake car, a Ferrari Daytona replica based on a 1.6 Capri, then you could probably be assured they're a poser. Possibly someone with a massively blingy watch like that 57mm one a couple of pages back and a Vauxhall Nova with a big exhaust pipe might qualify.

Sy1441

1,116 posts

160 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Lorneg said:
it says SAAB 9-5, 'yes I know I could have bought a BMW M5 but this is more understated and anyway I'm not too bothered by what everyone else thinks as I happen to know it's really rather nice'

Alternatively it says 'nearly 4.20', just depends on what you meant in the question

Edited by Lorneg on Tuesday 21st October 11:21
From Elegant and Understated to Oversized and Complicated! The Patek won't save you if your stranded at sea haha!



Have to admit, neither get worn very often as i prefer something somewhere in-between, something thats 40mm or thereabouts and instantly recognisable to other watch enthusiasts. Daily wearers are almost exclusively Rolex at the moment, GMT, SD16600 or SS/Everrose DJ.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Blown2CV said:
that stability is not exactly accessible to most though, which might be what pisses them off. Not sure.
I think it's more the view that anyone who doesn't have one can't afford one or is jelous of those that have one that irks people.

It's as though people who are defined by their belongings can't understand others who aren't.

Not everyone buys the most expensive watch or car or house they can afford.

Blown2CV

28,798 posts

203 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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el stovey said:
Blown2CV said:
that stability is not exactly accessible to most though, which might be what pisses them off. Not sure.
I think it's more the view that anyone who doesn't have one can't afford one or is jelous of those that have one that irks people.

It's as though people who are defined by their belongings can't understand others who aren't.

Not everyone buys the most expensive watch or car or house they can afford.
This is quite related to the 'hobo who bought an expensive car' thread. Some people actively try and present themselves as someone that doesn't care about how they are perceived, which inherently means that they actually do. I don't have a problem with people wearing whatever they want but it's the mentioning it, and thinking they somehow should get treated a specific way that is annoying to me. If someone feels they need to present themselves as rich, and are, then in a way that's more palatable to me than someone who is poor and wants to be perceived as rich (citation, credit card debt, payday loan etc) or rich and wants to be seen as not rich (citation, that thread). However the latter is the least palatable in some ways because at least when the poor kid gets rumbled he just skulks off, deflated... when the rich guy who wants to be seen as not rich gets treated like he is actually normal, sometimes he fking hates it and kicks right off.

Fact is, luxury goods do generally act as a crutch for many that are lacking charisma or maybe are needy of attention. Some people do buy nice things and not actually to show off though, i guess.

RichB

51,560 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Sy1441 said:
What does this say?

Don't know but I have a thing against Roman numerals on watches. They belong on Big Ben not wrist watches biggrin But each to their own.

RichB

51,560 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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RDMcG said:
I think it was the reflections that made me think it was a bi-metal. smile

RichB

51,560 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Blown2CV said:
MrBarry123 said:
RichB said:
called them Clown Watches on here a few years ago and got flamed. Pleased that good taste has prevailed and normal sized watches are now more popular. laugh
Absolutely. 57mm is ridiculous - even if you do have very manly arms.
Flamed by whom?? Although the watch forum can be like that...
Can't remember that, it was about 5 years ago. wink

I expressed the view that master craftsman had been working for many decades to reduce the size of a watch mechanism from a clock, through pocket watch to wrist watch only for marketing people to decide that big is good because it shows up well on football manager's wrists during interviews on Sky Sports thus increasing brand awareness biggrin

As a marketing ploy it's genius, as a wristwatches they're an anachronism.

Variomatic

2,392 posts

161 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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RichB said:
Can't remember that, it was about 5 years ago. wink

I expressed the view that master craftsman had been working for many decades to reduce the size of a watch mechanism from a clock, through pocket watch to wrist watch only for marketing people to decide that big is good because it shows up well on football manager's wrists during interviews on Sky Sports thus increasing brand awareness biggrin

As a marketing ploy it's genius, as a wristwatches they're an anachronism.
If I'd been here 5 years ago I would've backed you biggrin

tuscaneer

7,760 posts

225 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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SpeckledJim said:
tuscaneer said:
fkin hell pal, you're exhausting me with the pedantics..........
smile Sorry, I'm just jousting.

Trying to get anyone who owns an expensive watch to admit to be being a bit of a poseur is an ongoing quest.
oh, ok i'll play then!.....i'm a vacuous tt who can't see past a price tag and a brand I can buy into!!....yay!!

tuscaneer

7,760 posts

225 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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el stovey said:
Blown2CV said:
that stability is not exactly accessible to most though, which might be what pisses them off. Not sure.
I think it's more the view that anyone who doesn't have one can't afford one or is jelous of those that have one that irks people.

It's as though people who are defined by their belongings can't understand others who aren't.

Not everyone buys the most expensive watch or car or house they can afford.
don't know you know, I think you may be overthinking it.....

i'm certainly not defined by what I own and I certainly don't look at every other road user thinking " ha!! , you can't afford this car and I can!!".........it just doesn't enter my head. my old man mixes in circles far more illustrious than me and there are blokes I know who's net worth is 20 times mine who drive old st tip cars because it's something they have no interest in.

your point about not everyone buys the most expensive car / house they can afford.......I totally agree. it's about priorities. I kind of touched on it earlier with my boxing glove analogy......it just so happens that cars are higher up my priority list than most other peoples!

Lorneg

228 posts

179 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Sy1441 said:
Lorneg said:
it says SAAB 9-5, 'yes I know I could have bought a BMW M5 but this is more understated and anyway I'm not too bothered by what everyone else thinks as I happen to know it's really rather nice'

Alternatively it says 'nearly 4.20', just depends on what you meant in the question

Edited by Lorneg on Tuesday 21st October 11:21
From Elegant and Understated to Oversized and Complicated! The Patek won't save you if your stranded at sea haha!



Have to admit, neither get worn very often as i prefer something somewhere in-between, something thats 40mm or thereabouts and instantly recognisable to other watch enthusiasts. Daily wearers are almost exclusively Rolex at the moment, GMT, SD16600 or SS/Everrose DJ.
Ahh, well in my mind at least all Breitlings are Ford Mustangs. Unfortunately this particular model is a Ford Mustang in bright orange with a personal plate that says I'm a C**ck. Sorry, personal opinion only!

Ari

19,347 posts

215 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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I'm afraid our friend SJ above is like the people that don't understand German car quality and bang on and on about just a 'bit of soft touch plastic' bring the only difference between a Citreon and a Mercedes, everything else must, therefore, be 'snob value'.

Or to put it another way 'I dun get it so there can't possibly be anything to get'.

And they never will so best to just smile and pay them in the head. smile

Chuggy

337 posts

163 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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I last wore a watch 43 years ago........

Never missed it.