Transporting 5T of equipment to Madrid and back

Transporting 5T of equipment to Madrid and back

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Timja

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1,921 posts

209 months

Friday 17th October 2014
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Can anyone suggest a shipping/transport agent who may be able to arrange transportation of approx 5T of equipment to Madrid, then return it a week later. We may then need it moved to 5 different locations in Madrid during the week and we would fly out a few staff to coordinate (but may have a local company that can do this moving around Madrid part once equipment has arrived).


The volume of kit would fill a 7.5T lorry (not sure what the pay load of a lorry that size is, so may have to go in something bigger)


I thought there must be Lorries coming from Madrid to UK then heading back with empty lorries and vice-versa.

Thanks

TheRainMaker

6,334 posts

242 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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What type of kit is it?

You will struggle to get five tonnes in a 7.5t truck frown




TheRainMaker

6,334 posts

242 months

Saturday 18th October 2014
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Oh BTW we use a company called Clear a Space Ltd for all our trucking work.


spikeyhead

17,318 posts

197 months

Sunday 19th October 2014
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TheRainMaker said:
What type of kit is it?

You will struggle to get five tonnes in a 7.5t truck frown
I'm sure I could get five tonnes of lead in a SWB transit smile

Nickyboy

6,700 posts

234 months

Sunday 19th October 2014
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A 7.5 tonner only has just over 2t of payload capacity

Mr Pointy

11,220 posts

159 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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If you were just dropping off & picking up there are a number of companies you could use, but it sounds a if you need a bit more than that & there are some issues you may need to consider.

1) You'll need an 18 tonne vehicle which has a payload of around 9 tonnes. A 7.5 tonne vehicle can only take around 3 tonnes as pointed out already.
2) How is the equipment packed? Crates/pallets/flight cases mean different handling requirements at the other end.
3) What handling facilities are there at the other end, specifically a fork lift truck. If not, you'll need a vehicle with a tail lift at each of the venues.
4) How important is it if you lose a crate? If you put it on a consolidated shipment there's a possibility of mistakes in all the transfer between vehicles.
5) If you do end up with a dedicated vehicle don't be surprised if you end up with two drivers so they don't run into issues with tacho hours. Of course you have to pay these guys to drive back & out again so it won't be cheap. It might be cheaper to have them stay with the truck & do the loading & unloading at each venue.

I don't know where you are but if it's down south a couple of companies to look at are Exhibition Freighting & Van Ellis. If it's delicate equipment they are used to handling it.

Tuvra

7,921 posts

225 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Nickyboy said:
A 7.5 tonner only has just over 2t of payload capacity
Most have more than that. My steel bodied tipper can carry 3t! It can also tow another 3.5t if the drivers licence allowed.

Grandad7184

2,017 posts

135 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Could try NNR in who have a office in Madrid and one in Heathrow ask for Pavan or Daniel both based in the uk

Timja

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1,921 posts

209 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Thanks for the replies.

The equipment is staging, so metal frames with wooden decks. Could probably be palletised to aid transfer between places. I didn't think weight wise it would go on a 7.5T, just that is the sort of volume the kit takes up. The kit to go currently fits in 3 trailers and 1 LWB van.

Would be able to get fork lift at each end although tail lift would be easier.

Would be quite bad to loose any of the kit, although depending on what it is we may be able to get by or send some extra down.

A dedicated vehicle would be easier, but was thinking that if there is a lorry going back to Madrid empty and vice-versa then that could be the ideal way to do it or by sharing a lorry.

Looking at costs to drive there ourselves or ferry and drive (ferry looks like it would work out cheaper/easier if taking own vehicles).

Will have a word with some of the companies suggested and see how I get on, the ones specialising in exhibitions sound like they would be good.


Cheers

Tim

Cyberprog

2,190 posts

183 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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If you're just sending out steeldeck, (and if you are, why the hell are you using steeldeck, not allideck!) then why not just find someone in spain who can supply that? Then just send the gear that's critical smile

Otherwise, try flybynite smile

Nickyboy

6,700 posts

234 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Tuvra said:
Most have more than that. My steel bodied tipper can carry 3t! It can also tow another 3.5t if the drivers licence allowed.
Going by the TNT 7.5 tonner that delivers to us, the sticker on the side says ULW 4800kg so just over 2.5t payload

chilistrucker

4,541 posts

151 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Timja said:
Thanks for the replies.

The equipment is staging, so metal frames with wooden decks. Could probably be palletised to aid transfer between places. I didn't think weight wise it would go on a 7.5T, just that is the sort of volume the kit takes up. The kit to go currently fits in 3 trailers and 1 LWB van.

Would be able to get fork lift at each end although tail lift would be easier.

Would be quite bad to loose any of the kit, although depending on what it is we may be able to get by or send some extra down.

A dedicated vehicle would be easier, but was thinking that if there is a lorry going back to Madrid empty and vice-versa then that could be the ideal way to do it or by sharing a lorry.

Looking at costs to drive therre ourselves or ferry and drive (ferry looks like it would work out cheaper/easier if taking own vehicles).

Will have a word with some of the companies suggested and see how I get on, the ones specialising in exhibitions sound like they would be good.


Cheers

Tim
Sounds to me like an 18 tonne box motor with a big tail lift would be spot on. I recently did a month for a Chelmsford based company that specialise in conference and exhibition type work. I did a 10 day job to Munich for them in said 18 tonner carrying a mix of alloy stage deck, set and audio and visual flight cases.
I found them to be a very well run company and very good at what they do, infact the minute the dvla sort their act out and give me my bloody licence back I will be going back there to work wink
They have been established for 25 years and can pm you their number if you want?

htrowsoc

603 posts

194 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Tuffnells specialise in bulky loads like this i think

Super Slo Mo

5,368 posts

198 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Nickyboy said:
Tuvra said:
Most have more than that. My steel bodied tipper can carry 3t! It can also tow another 3.5t if the drivers licence allowed.
Going by the TNT 7.5 tonner that delivers to us, the sticker on the side says ULW 4800kg so just over 2.5t payload
That's about right for a 7.5 toner, factor in the driver and his sandwiches/flask and it's 2.5 tonnes or thereabouts. A longer 7.5t truck will have less.

We ended up with a 12 tonner for that very reason, nice big body, but with a 5 plus tonne payload, which was perfect for our bulky kit, and the running costs were barely any more than a 7.5 tonne truck.

jamescodriver

400 posts

193 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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