Ludgate Circus cyclist tipper lorry

[The Vambo]

Mr Gear said:

Blakewater said:

A friend of mine visited London not so long ago and a cyclist nearly hit her. It was Boris Johnson himself hooning like a maniac on his bicycle and not paying proper attention to those around him.

So was Boris Johnson cycling on the pavement, or was your friend stepping out into the road without looking?

Lets be honest, a cyclist and a pedestrian near miss is almost always a red light/green man situation.












Here fishy fishy

[Blakewater]

Mr Gear said:

Blakewater said:

A friend of mine visited London not so long ago and a cyclist nearly hit her. It was Boris Johnson himself hooning like a maniac on his bicycle and not paying proper attention to those around him.

So was Boris Johnson cycling on the pavement, or was your friend stepping out into the road without looking?

A shared space area I believe. It was a while ago when she mentioned it.

[dacouch]

The Vambo said:

Lets be honest, a cyclist and a pedestrian near miss is almost always a red light/green man situation.












Here fishy fishy

Not in Central London

You also have cyclists ignoring people on zebra crossings or over/undertaking the traffic that's stopped at them and then colliding with the people crossing.

Crossing a one way road and cyclists riding the wrong way.

Cyclist riding the wrong way up a two way street so they're not seen by people crossing.

Cutting the corner of a cross roads by cutting across the pavement.

You also have the classic simply riding along the pavement

If you have any sense crossing a road in Central London you need to look left and right and then left and then keep checking as you cross.

I've even been hit (at slow speed) by a bike in a supermarket, for some reason some parents think it's ok for their kids to ride bikes around the supermarket while they shop.

[Hugo a Gogo]

has anyone pointed out that the truck involved is not an artic?

[saaby93]

Hugo a Gogo said:

has anyone pointed out that the truck involved is not an artic?

look back a page

[rambo19]

Dammit said:

rambo19 said:

You could have a man at every junction telling cyclists that a lorry is turning left and would still take no notice................

Given that the lorry is the danger, why not have the man tell the lorry driver?

You could do, and the lorry driver would take notice.
How many times have we seen a lorry at a red light with its left indicator going and a cyclist still whizzes up the inside.

[Harji]

It's drivers not checking this happens to me regularly while cycling, cars AHEAD of me would turn left without checking their left mirror mirror, or pull out without checking oncoming traffic or just overtake me leaving a few inches, two weeks ago a women overtook me and dived back in to avoid a traffic island, I was heading for a car and kerb sandwich but braked and punched her car in anger. She denied everything and said it was my fault.

Also common is a car overtaking you and not judging the road at all, as in the case of a car waiting to take a left, I pass, he turns left and then immediately tries to overtake me to take the next left about 15M's away but can't and pull's back in, inches away from me.

I wonder how many cyclists have been killed and then blamed by the driver in situations like I described? Also, just to make a point, of the events described above , all happened in 45 mins of cycling this Saturday 18/10/14 apart from the woman incident.

[rscott]

dacouch said:

The Vambo said:

Lets be honest, a cyclist and a pedestrian near miss is almost always a red light/green man situation.












Here fishy fishy

Not in Central London

You also have cyclists ignoring people on zebra crossings or over/undertaking the traffic that's stopped at them and then colliding with the people crossing.

Crossing a one way road and cyclists riding the wrong way.

Cyclist riding the wrong way up a two way street so they're not seen by people crossing.

Cutting the corner of a cross roads by cutting across the pavement.

You also have the classic simply riding along the pavement

If you have any sense crossing a road in Central London you need to look left and right and then left and then keep checking as you cross.

I've even been hit (at slow speed) by a bike in a supermarket, for some reason some parents think it's ok for their kids to ride bikes around the supermarket while they shop.

You've also missed the 'oh, I'll cross the road here, that bike doesn't look like it's going that fast...' one

[Laurel Green]

Have just heard that the poor girl didn't make it.

[heebeegeetee]

Laurel Green said:

Have just heard that the poor girl didn't make it.

Well that's a shame.

[dacouch]

anonymous said:

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I do similar when using a zebra crossing, I also do it when cyclist are riding on the pavement when they shouldn't.

I must say the quality of cyclist in Central London has definitely improved since the police started to enforce traffic lights and advanced stop lines for cyclists, drivers and motorbikes. It seems to be only about 5% who ride like selfish loons. I find the commuters on the Bromptons the worst as they're determined to keep their hard gained speed up no matter what.

[Hackney]

Harji said:

It's drivers not checking this happens to me regularly while cycling, cars AHEAD of me would turn left without checking their left mirror mirror, or pull out without checking oncoming traffic or just overtake me leaving a few inches, two weeks ago a women overtook me and dived back in to avoid a traffic island, I was heading for a car and kerb sandwich but braked and punched her car in anger. She denied everything and said it was my fault.

Also common is a car overtaking you and not judging the road at all, as in the case of a car waiting to take a left, I pass, he turns left and then immediately tries to overtake me to take the next left about 15M's away but can't and pull's back in, inches away from me.

I wonder how many cyclists have been killed and then blamed by the driver in situations like I described? Also, just to make a point, of the events described above , all happened in 45 mins of cycling this Saturday 18/10/14 apart from the woman incident.

Very little of what you said makes sense

[Tunku]

Hackney said:

Harji said:

It's drivers not checking this happens to me regularly while cycling, cars AHEAD of me would turn left without checking their left mirror mirror, or pull out without checking oncoming traffic or just overtake me leaving a few inches, two weeks ago a women overtook me and dived back in to avoid a traffic island, I was heading for a car and kerb sandwich but braked and punched her car in anger. She denied everything and said it was my fault.

Also common is a car overtaking you and not judging the road at all, as in the case of a car waiting to take a left, I pass, he turns left and then immediately tries to overtake me to take the next left about 15M's away but can't and pull's back in, inches away from me.

I wonder how many cyclists have been killed and then blamed by the driver in situations like I described? Also, just to make a point, of the events described above , all happened in 45 mins of cycling this Saturday 18/10/14 apart from the woman incident.

Very little of what you said makes sense

What I get from it, is, don't overtake a vehicle at a junction when you are on it's left side in case it turns left and you are in a blind spot. At least, that is how I survived being a cyclist during my pre teen years before I got older and could buy a motorbike, where the same logic applied.

[DJFish]

I walk, drive and cycle in Central London.
As well as all the people doing what they're supposed to, I see drivers, peds & cyclists doing things they shouldn't all the time, sometimes it's deliberate, sometimes by mistake but they ALL do it.
To suggest bad behaviour is limited to one particular group of road users is just deluded.

[cossy400]

Hackney said:

Harji said:

It's drivers not checking this happens to me regularly while cycling, cars AHEAD of me would turn left without checking their left mirror mirror, or pull out without checking oncoming traffic or just overtake me leaving a few inches, two weeks ago a women overtook me and dived back in to avoid a traffic island, I was heading for a car and kerb sandwich but braked and punched her car in anger. She denied everything and said it was my fault.

Also common is a car overtaking you and not judging the road at all, as in the case of a car waiting to take a left, I pass, he turns left and then immediately tries to overtake me to take the next left about 15M's away but can't and pull's back in, inches away from me.

I wonder how many cyclists have been killed and then blamed by the driver in situations like I described? Also, just to make a point, of the events described above , all happened in 45 mins of cycling this Saturday 18/10/14 apart from the woman incident.

Very little of what you said makes sense

In simple terms cyclist has 6-8 ft to look after. But cars/buses/lorry's etc are ment to stop wait whilst cyclist does as he pleases. ...

Never the cyclists fault so end thread! !!
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As I said on the previous page if a lorrys driver has mirrors all over his cab by the time hes finished checking the last one he d have to be checking the 1st again, and that's before looking in front.

Heres a novel idea why don't the cyclists take some initiative and not try and squeeze down the sides of large vehicles.

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[9mm]

London drivers may be a bit mad but it's rare to see one haring up a one way street, completely ignoring traffic signals or alternating between pavement and road. All are commonplace among cyclists and would be witnessed just about anywhere in the city within a few minutes. I'm surprised more cyclists aren't killed to be honest.

[dacouch]

9mm said:

London drivers may be a bit mad but it's rare to see one haring up a one way street, completely ignoring traffic signals or alternating between pavement and road. All are commonplace among cyclists and would be witnessed just about anywhere in the city within a few minutes. I'm surprised more cyclists aren't killed to be honest.

I take it you've not driven in East London lol

[DJFish]

anonymous said:

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True, regardless of the overall stats which suggests Peds are most likely to be seriously injured in London, these specific accidents are all too common but I think it's a bit premature to suggest that they're entirely the fault of the cyclist, especially since SMIDSY sideswipes are amongst the myriad of all too common ocurrences which happen every day to road users in the capital.

I just find the "It must be because I saw a cyclist do something once" comments a bit tiresome and a waste of bandwidth.

Anyway, very sad to see the victim has died.

[heebeegeetee]

DJFish said:

I just find the "It must be because I saw a cyclist do something once" comments a bit tiresome and a waste of bandwidth.

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You know that that isn't true, so as you say, why waste the bandwidth? Nobody is saying that they saw a cyclist do something once. Many people are saying that they are repeatedly seeing cyclists do bad stuff every day. They are also saying they are seeing other road users do bad stuff, but not to the extent of cyclists and the others (generally) aren't getting themselves killed.

Thats not to say the cyclist is at fault in this case - but if people are repeatedly seeing cyclists squeezing into dangerous gaps then they are perfectly entitled to say so.

[swisstoni]

I think we have dealt with going up the inside of a vehicle turning left: it's a very bad idea.
What would haunt me as a cyclist, though, is if I was waiting at a junction and THEN the HGV stops next to me. Is it turning left? Has the driver seen me? In that situation the cyclist has to hope they are lucky, bail out and get on the pavement or what?