Why do people queue at petrol stations?

[daemon]

Osinjak said:

daemon said:

If theres already a queue, join the queue. Dont be a prick and decide your own rules on what that queue should be and drive round everybody.

Changed your tune haven't you?

No, i havent. I've said that from page 1.

A queue, by definition is more than one person (or car in this case). You were talking about driving round a single car. I've no issues with a ditherer and moving round them. You did put QUEUE in the thread title though, hence why i think some have went off in a tangent.

[Osinjak]

So you only read the thread title then?

[daemon]

Centurion07 said:

daemon said:

smithyithy said:

This is what I encounter.. The scale is a bit off, but it's roughly like this. The road is quite narrow as it's sort of within a retail park, but it's right by my work off the motorway so I always fill up here.

The cars at the bottom left just swing in and sit there, some times 3 of them at a time, while there's plenty of space to move across into a queue, so I just squeeze past to their left and join the furthest available queue.

I'd never intentionally cut in front of someone.

Yes, thats not good. With you entirely.

Er, isn't that the entire gist of this thread?

There was a scenario being discussed where there was a queue of traffic with the front car waiting for a pump to be free. People seemed to think it was "OK" to bypass the entire queue and sit directly behind the car most likely to move from a pump next.

This may come as a surprise but not all petrol stations work like the particular one you frequent.

[daemon]

Osinjak said:

So you only read the thread title then?

There was further discussions about other scenarios.

This thread isnt just about you and your unique "issues".

[Osinjak]

daemon said:

Osinjak said:

Seriously, why? You know the ones, petrols station is busy and yet some complete mong, rather than just finding a pump to sit behind, sits in the entrance to the fuel station waiting for the next free pump. Twice today I've driven round these fking idiots and waited at a pump to fuel up. No grief, just full on stares (powerfully built fridge thrower and all that) but I just cannot understand people sometimes, just fking get on with it!

I suppose you do the same in banks and post offices then?

One queue of people waiting for a window to be free and you just rock up and stand behind someone at a window?

Same thing isnt it?

You misinterpreted right from the off, not everyone else. You're the one going off on a tangent. It's pretty obvious to anyone that in my original rant that I'm going on about a mong (not a queue of mongs and I pointed out that I wouldn't go round a queue of more than one at the risk of getting filled in) sat in the entrance to a fuel station and yet YOU have decided to go down the route of banging on about queues of multiple people, etc. Try reading the original post next time, it might shave a few weeks off that inevitable stroke.

[PanzerCommander]

chrispj said:

PanzerCommander said:

I'd need three hands to do that or I'd have to pull the car so far forward that it blocks the gap bewteen the pump islands

Is this a huge faux pas? I do it all the time to bring the hose round the back of my estate. It hasn't ever blocked access to the pump ahead so I don't see it as a problem.

PanzerCommander said:

Waiting a few extra minutes for me is no issue as sometimes it takes 25 minutes to get the normal amber light (50 miles to go) to brim 46 litres of fuel in it anyway.

25 minutes to put in 46 litres of fuel?! Thanks for the heads-up, will take care not to queue behind any Mustangs I come across! That would drive me nuts having to waste 25 minutes every time I visit a petrol station, presumably with a V8 you spend a lot of time there...

It’s not the pump ahead that’s the issue, it blocks the gap between the pumps so people can't get out around the car in front of them if they finish before them (though most people just sit and fume waiting for the car in front to finish their weekly shop rather than pulling round).

RE the fuelling; doesn't do it all the time, sometimes it will fill from empty to full in one go and take the usual amount of time. But I have once had it on the amber light and it click off after 1.5 litres. Then its "click", "click", "click" all the way to a full tank. Sometimes it clicks off after 15 litres, sometimes it clicks off after 30 litres. The fuel filler design is bad it goes down from the nozzle, then arcs back up and around the wheel arch then finally down to the tank. Which is a pair of 30 litre tanks; saddle bagged over the prop shaft. Its prone to vapour locks and it’s even worse if the EVAP doesn't purge (no way to force it) before you re-fuel. It’s something I have lived with for 5 years and 56,000 miles and just get on with. I am there once a week usually which does make it somewhat of a pain when it decides it’s going to play up.

There is no 100% fix for it other than removing the fuel tanks altogether and replacing them with a fuel cell in the boot. But then I’d have no boot space, boot space I need quite often.

[daemon]

Osinjak said:

You misinterpreted right from the off, not everyone else. You're the one going off on a tangent. It's pretty obvious to anyone that in my original rant that I'm going on about a mong (not a queue of mongs and I pointed out that I wouldn't go round a queue of more than one at the risk of getting filled in) sat in the entrance to a fuel station and yet YOU have decided to go down the route of banging on about queues of multiple people, etc. Try reading the original post next time, it might shave of a few weeks of that inevitable stroke.

Once you clarified what you had meant in the first place, then i said i have no issues driving round one individual who is dithering. The conversation had moved on to other scenarios by that point - for example, queuing out onto the road, multiple cars, etc, etc.

Try being clearer next time.

[Osinjak]

daemon said:

Try being clearer next time.

Interesting. Everyone else got it apart from you and yet somehow I wasn't clear enough. Sounds like you're the sort of fellow who could start an argument in an empty room. Try rereading the sequence of posts and the content and I think you'll find that YOU were the one that took it off-piste.

No name calling today then?

[Pan Pan]

Most (But not all) pumps have delivery pipes long enough to reach both sides
a car, therefore it does not matter which side a driver has their filler, they should be able to fill up at any pump which is not being used.
The petrol stations job is to sell fuel, if they get those who do not realize they can park either side of a pump, blocking access to the pumps, then the blocker is actually costing the fuel station valuable business.
Perhaps the worst offenders are those who pull up at the first pump on the pump island, whilst there are empty pump/s directly in front of them. Sometimes being made worse, by them doing their weekly shop, before walking up to the pay station. Do the really not understand that there are others behind them waiting to fill up?

[daemon]

Osinjak said:

daemon said:

Try being clearer next time.

Interesting. Everyone else got it apart from you and yet somehow I wasn't clear enough. Sounds like you're the sort of fellow who could start an argument in an empty room. Try rereading the sequence of posts and the content and I think you'll find that YOU were the one that took it off-piste.

No name calling today then?

Really? Because the first two posters read it as i did too. I could re-read the entire thread to find others who were thrown by it, but i cant be bothered to be frank.

3 people out of the first half dozen or so posts doesnt sound like a great statistic to me.

[Osinjak]

daemon said:

Really? Because the first two posters read it as i did too. I could re-read the entire thread to find others who were thrown by it, but i cant be bothered to be frank.

3 people out of the first half dozen or so posts doesnt sound like a great statistic to me.

Then they're just as guilty as you for misreading the post, aren't they?

[daemon]

Osinjak said:

daemon said:

Really? Because the first two posters read it as i did too. I could re-read the entire thread to find others who were thrown by it, but i cant be bothered to be frank.

3 people out of the first half dozen or so posts doesnt sound like a great statistic to me.

Then they're just as guilty as you for misreading the post, aren't they?

As i said, try to be clearer next time then.

[Osinjak]

Try reading it properly next time then. Shall we go on or are you as bored with your drivel as I am?

[daemon]

Osinjak said:

Try reading it properly next time then. Shall we go on or are you as bored with your drivel as I am?

Bored that you seem to have to "win" an argument on the internet and get the last word.

[vetrof]

Osinjak said:

Seriously, petrols station is busy and yet some complete mong, rather than just finding a pump to sit behind, sits in the entrance to the fuel station waiting for the next free pump.

Pretty clear to me. I agree with you OP.

[Hol]

Only one station local to me works like the opening decsription, and that is a Morrison station, with a 10car single lane access road that runs at a right angle to the highway and terminates the far end of the pump forecourt,

Sometimes people stop at the end, rather than proceding to join one of the six pump lanes.

Every other station has individual queues for pump lanes as you enter.



Biggest annoyance for me, are people who just rock up, dump their car beside a pump and go shopping without even buying petrol.

Especially annoying at one station near me where the 'only SUL pump' is right by the shop entrance and that is obviously the favourite place, for Mr/Mrs fat arse lazy-git.
Really annoying as there is an empty car park round the back with a back entrance to the shop!! (Their mothers maiden name was obviously Fucq Wit).

[Osinjak]

daemon said:

Osinjak said:

Try reading it properly next time then. Shall we go on or are you as bored with your drivel as I am?

Bored that you seem to have to "win" an argument on the internet and get the last word.

See, this is the second time you've mentioned something about winning but I don't know what it is I'm trying to win and you seem slightly obsessed with it. Is there a prize, what do I have to do to get it? I have no interest in getting the last word but if you want to continue to argue the point (whatever it is now that you've changed your mind) then you shouldn't be surprised if someone responds to it. It is funny though how you've taken two posters on the first page who also read my post wrongly but ignored the other nine pages of general agreement and used that to somehow justify your position. Weak, very weak and just plain lazy.

Seriously, I genuinely don't care if you agree with me or not, it makes no odds to me but if you are going to disagree with me try at least to understand what it is you're disagreeing about and try and do it with a bit more style than adding the word 'prick' into your sentence.

Anyhoo, I'm done with you, enjoy your last word. It's plain to me that you're a fairly tedious internet warrior who serves and volleys semantics to his own ends and is too far up his own exhaust to see how his contributions to this thread have, at best, been feverishly argumentative, ill thought out and a little bit juvenile in places.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

Edited by Osinjak on Tuesday 21st October 15:17

[PHmember]

daemon said:

Try being clearer next time.

It was pretty clear what the OP meant. Why don't you try being less pedantic.

[Ian Geary]

PHmember said:

Why don't you try being less pedantic.

Yeah, good luck with that one...


I think the French have perfected the petrol station: no stupid shops, just a little hut at the exit to take your Euros. Everyone is in and out tres rapide.



Ian

[Pan Pan]

Ian Geary said:

Yeah, good luck with that one...


I think the French have perfected the petrol station: no stupid shops, just a little hut at the exit to take your Euros. Everyone is in and out tres rapide.



Ian

There are a few fuel stations in the UK with this set up, and it works well, One of the problems with the combined fuel station / supermarket set up, is that `some' park at a pump, get fuel, and then spend ages wandering around the shelves in the shop, seeing if there is something they want, before drifting over to the pay point. This type of fuel station would be OK if they used the French system, where they must move off the pumps and pay for their fuel first, and then park up in a provided area, if the they want to go into the shop part of the set up.
But those who don't realize they can park either side of the pumps, and fill up regardless of which side the fuel cap on their `car' is, are the ones who cause the queue problems at fuel stations. If some drivers are so dumb, they don't go to the first available pump, and instead sit there causing a blockage while they wait for a pump on the same side as the fuel cap, they deserve everything they get, or rather don't get. The old rule applies, Be stupid, get cut!