Why do people queue at petrol stations?
Discussion
Ian Geary said:
Yeah, good luck with that one...
I think the French have perfected the petrol station: no stupid shops, just a little hut at the exit to take your Euros. Everyone is in and out tres rapide.
Ian
My local asda station is totally self service and you pay by card at the pump. No attendant or shop to go into. I think the French have perfected the petrol station: no stupid shops, just a little hut at the exit to take your Euros. Everyone is in and out tres rapide.
Ian
I think the problem more generally in the uk is that there isn't enough profit for the retailer in petrol thus they make money on the other stuff you buy when you are in
daemon said:
My local asda station is totally self service and you pay by card at the pump. No attendant or shop to go into.
I think the problem more generally in the uk is that there isn't enough profit for the retailer in petrol thus they make money on the other stuff you buy when you are in
This is one of the reasons that the fuel companies must do as much as possible to make filling up, as fast and efficient as possible (which many certainly are not doing at present) They don't make much money out of selling fuel, so they should make filling up as fast, efficient, and convenient as possible, in order to maximize the number of cars that can fill up in a given time period. I think the problem more generally in the uk is that there isn't enough profit for the retailer in petrol thus they make money on the other stuff you buy when you are in
The same sometimes happens in pubs where they allow drinkers to hog the bar, which prevents others from buying drinks easily, The rule for bars (and fuel stations) should be go to bar, get drink, f*ck off away from the bar, and give others a chance to get a drink.
Pan Pan said:
daemon said:
My local asda station is totally self service and you pay by card at the pump. No attendant or shop to go into.
I think the problem more generally in the uk is that there isn't enough profit for the retailer in petrol thus they make money on the other stuff you buy when you are in
This is one of the reasons that the fuel companies must do as much as possible to make filling up, as fast and efficient as possible (which many certainly are not doing at present) They don't make much money out of selling fuel, so they should make filling up as fast, efficient, and convenient as possible, in order to maximize the number of cars that can fill up in a given time period. I think the problem more generally in the uk is that there isn't enough profit for the retailer in petrol thus they make money on the other stuff you buy when you are in
The same sometimes happens in pubs where they allow drinkers to hog the bar, which prevents others from buying drinks easily, The rule for bars (and fuel stations) should be go to bar, get drink, f*ck off away from the bar, and give others a chance to get a drink.
Pan Pan said:
This is one of the reasons that the fuel companies must do as much as possible to make filling up, as fast and efficient as possible (which many certainly are not doing at present) They don't make much money out of selling fuel, so they should make filling up as fast, efficient, and convenient as possible, in order to maximize the number of cars that can fill up in a given time period.
The same sometimes happens in pubs where they allow drinkers to hog the bar, which prevents others from buying drinks easily, The rule for bars (and fuel stations) should be go to bar, get drink, f*ck off away from the bar, and give others a chance to get a drink.
A Mars bar and can of coke will make them more money than 50 litres of fuel, so you can see why they are in no hurry to get people off the forecourt.The same sometimes happens in pubs where they allow drinkers to hog the bar, which prevents others from buying drinks easily, The rule for bars (and fuel stations) should be go to bar, get drink, f*ck off away from the bar, and give others a chance to get a drink.
daemon said:
My local asda station is totally self service and you pay by card at the pump. No attendant or shop to go into.
I think the problem more generally in the uk is that there isn't enough profit for the retailer in petrol thus they make money on the other stuff you buy when you are in
Asda filling station near me has no shop, but has manned tollbooths on exit. There are only a couple of self service pumps, the rest you fill up then drive to the exit and pay at one of the windows. I think the problem more generally in the uk is that there isn't enough profit for the retailer in petrol thus they make money on the other stuff you buy when you are in
AvonRise said:
A Mars bar and can of coke will make them more money than 50 litres of fuel, so you can see why they are in no hurry to get people off the forecourt.
Yes, you could well be right there. In the Birmingham area today, saw 95Ron @ 122.7ppl.Never seen a .7 pence price before, always .9 ....
The Sainsburys, Morrisons, Tescos Supermarkets with on site petrol stations I use locally all have shops with lots of stuff to buy. Including Engine Oils and all sorts. I notice that the items on the Filling Station shop shelves are anything up to 50% or more higher priced than the same stuff in the main supermarket. Mug me still buys the occasional Mars bar though when filling up.
I can resist anything bar temptation.
MGJohn said:
Yes, you could well be right there. In the Birmingham area today, saw 95Ron @ 122.7ppl.
Never seen a .7 pence price before, always .9 ....
The Sainsburys, Morrisons, Tescos Supermarkets with on site petrol stations I use locally all have shops with lots of stuff to buy. Including Engine Oils and all sorts. I notice that the items on the Filling Station shop shelves are anything up to 50% or more higher priced than the same stuff in the main supermarket. Mug me still buys the occasional Mars bar though when filling up.
I can resist anything bar temptation.
I work in a Sainsbury's petrol station. All our prices are the same as in the main store.Never seen a .7 pence price before, always .9 ....
The Sainsburys, Morrisons, Tescos Supermarkets with on site petrol stations I use locally all have shops with lots of stuff to buy. Including Engine Oils and all sorts. I notice that the items on the Filling Station shop shelves are anything up to 50% or more higher priced than the same stuff in the main supermarket. Mug me still buys the occasional Mars bar though when filling up.
I can resist anything bar temptation.
clockworks said:
MGJohn said:
Yes, you could well be right there. In the Birmingham area today, saw 95Ron @ 122.7ppl.
Never seen a .7 pence price before, always .9 ....
The Sainsburys, Morrisons, Tescos Supermarkets with on site petrol stations I use locally all have shops with lots of stuff to buy. Including Engine Oils and all sorts. I notice that the items on the Filling Station shop shelves are anything up to 50% or more higher priced than the same stuff in the main supermarket. Mug me still buys the occasional Mars bar though when filling up.
I can resist anything bar temptation.
I work in a Sainsbury's petrol station. All our prices are the same as in the main store.Never seen a .7 pence price before, always .9 ....
The Sainsburys, Morrisons, Tescos Supermarkets with on site petrol stations I use locally all have shops with lots of stuff to buy. Including Engine Oils and all sorts. I notice that the items on the Filling Station shop shelves are anything up to 50% or more higher priced than the same stuff in the main supermarket. Mug me still buys the occasional Mars bar though when filling up.
I can resist anything bar temptation.
thelawnet said:
jimbop1 said:
OP... What job do you have that requires you to fill up twice a day?
Just interested.
Maybe he is one of these wallies who only ever puts £10 worth in.Just interested.
It's perfectly feasible.
makes no odds what they do with the layout of a filling station. the great british self righteous motorist will always find something about the experience to moan about, wear a short lived scowl on their face, bib their horn to signal impatience or get back in their car after paying and then fanny about for 2 minutes looking for something they urgently need from their bag or glovebox remaining oblivious to the 3 or 4 vehicles waiting behind or not oblivious as i think is more often the case these days. you know when you return to your vehicle if others are waiting on you to getaway but i think some treat it like a sport. how long can i piss about before the guy waiting gets mad? the fuel only set is how it should be.....
Edited by ToothbrushMan on Thursday 23 October 07:06
ToothbrushMan said:
makes no odds what they do with the layout of a filling station. the great british self righteous motorist will always find something about the experience to moan about, wear a short lived scowl on their face, bib their horn to signal impatience or get back in their car after paying and then fanny about for 2 minutes looking for something they urgently need from their bag or glovebox remaining oblivious to the 3 or 4 vehicles waiting behind or not oblivious as ivthink is more often the case these days.
I have seen this quite a few times, and wonder WTF are they doing in there??? it has been several minutes since they got into their car, and they still have not even started the engine! How long does it take, to put on a seat belt, start the car, and move off? Do they really not see the queue of vehicles which has built up behind them on the forecourt, with other motorists waiting to get fuel?Pan Pan said:
ToothbrushMan said:
makes no odds what they do with the layout of a filling station. the great british self righteous motorist will always find something about the experience to moan about, wear a short lived scowl on their face, bib their horn to signal impatience or get back in their car after paying and then fanny about for 2 minutes looking for something they urgently need from their bag or glovebox remaining oblivious to the 3 or 4 vehicles waiting behind or not oblivious as ivthink is more often the case these days.
I have seen this quite a few times, and wonder WTF are they doing in there??? it has been several minutes since they got into their car, and they still have not even started the engine! How long does it take, to put on a seat belt, start the car, and move off? Do they really not see the queue of vehicles which has built up behind them on the forecourt, with other motorists waiting to get fuel?AvonRise said:
Pan Pan said:
This is one of the reasons that the fuel companies must do as much as possible to make filling up, as fast and efficient as possible (which many certainly are not doing at present) They don't make much money out of selling fuel, so they should make filling up as fast, efficient, and convenient as possible, in order to maximize the number of cars that can fill up in a given time period.
The same sometimes happens in pubs where they allow drinkers to hog the bar, which prevents others from buying drinks easily, The rule for bars (and fuel stations) should be go to bar, get drink, f*ck off away from the bar, and give others a chance to get a drink.
A Mars bar and can of coke will make them more money than 50 litres of fuel, so you can see why they are in no hurry to get people off the forecourt.The same sometimes happens in pubs where they allow drinkers to hog the bar, which prevents others from buying drinks easily, The rule for bars (and fuel stations) should be go to bar, get drink, f*ck off away from the bar, and give others a chance to get a drink.
As CH108 pointed out, currently the best of these, are the self service pumps at places like ASDA, because `most' drivers just get their fuel, and move off.
But even at these I have seen drivers dicking about for ages in their cars after they have filled up, oblivious of the queue of other motorists, who are waiting to fill up behind them.
Pan Pan said:
Yes but `before' they can sell people a mars bar, and a can of coke, they have to get people `onto' the forecourt. and if it is choked up with cars, many other drivers will simply sail past, and go somewhere else for their fuel (and mars bar and can of coke) This is why getting people through the pumps as quickly, and efficiently is in both the, motorists, and the outlets best financial interests.
As CH108 pointed out, currently the best of these, are the self service pumps at places like ASDA, because `most' drivers just get their fuel, and move off.
But even at these I have seen drivers dicking about for ages in their cars after they have filled up, oblivious of the queue of other motorists, who are waiting to fill up behind them.
Well, Asda don't do forecourt shops (I know they have a few, but only generally where they've inherited them from a takeover) - so you don't really have any choice on their forecourts.As CH108 pointed out, currently the best of these, are the self service pumps at places like ASDA, because `most' drivers just get their fuel, and move off.
But even at these I have seen drivers dicking about for ages in their cars after they have filled up, oblivious of the queue of other motorists, who are waiting to fill up behind them.
They appear to be going down the road of a totally unmanned model, not sure that this is good for the medium to long term future of fuel retailing. (Unmanned supermarket forecourts could put incredible pressure on the traditional oil retailers, further killing choice in market)
Osinjak said:
jimbop1 said:
OP... What job do you have that requires you to fill up twice a day?
Just interested.
I didn't say I filled up twice and it was nothing to do with my job either, never said it was old boy.Just interested.
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