Raphael Ravenscroft

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21,574 posts

225 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Was sad today to read of his early death aged just 60.... he was most noted for his sax solo on Baker Street and a fine player. I traded emails with him a couple of years ago and he was a thoroughly nice chap. RIP

gazza285

9,810 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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The only highlight of that turgid song, its enduring popularity is a mystery to me.

The Hypno-Toad

12,281 posts

205 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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At least now he can have a chat with Bob Holness about those missing royalty cheques.

Sad news though. frown

matchmaker

8,490 posts

200 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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gazza285 said:
The only highlight of that turgid song, its enduring popularity is a mystery to me.
Considering the number of great songs by Gerry Rafferty, I'd tend to agree!

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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I loved it when it first came out - but it got overplayed.

Even Ravenscroft wasn't that keen on it.

perdu

4,884 posts

199 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Sad that he's passed on

I agree too, with you guys


The sax is sublime, but the song utter 'wah'

The Don of Croy

5,998 posts

159 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Sorry but I rather like Baker Street, and the guitar solo particularly (which gets far less air time then the equally pleasant sax piece).

RIP Mr. Ravenscroft (any relation to John Peel?)


The Hypno-Toad

12,281 posts

205 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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The Don of Croy said:
Sorry but I rather like Baker Street, and the guitar solo particularly (which gets far less air time then the equally pleasant sax piece).

RIP Mr. Ravenscroft (any relation to John Peel?)
Agreed.

There are always plenty of happy songs but Baker Street is meant to be a dirge. Its a song for losers about a man trapped in a cycle of depression and probably alcoholism who keeps telling himself that things are going to change. Tomorrow, he'll get up, sober up and make something of himself, maybe move away from the city to get a clean slate. But at the end of another rubbish day at a meaningless job or possibly just spent hanging around in a greasy spoon, he hits the booze again at either a pub or his equally depressed and stuck in rut mates grotty flat & finds himself thinking about missed opportunity's the same as he does every night.

There is no pretty or even ugly woman in this life, no family to fall back on, there is just him and the inertia of his everyday life. There was plenty of people like this back in the late 70s and probably a few about now, no matter how you dress how wonderful life is these days with Iphones, internet and the Premiership. Some people make life choices that don't work out, some times they don't help themselves.

Not everyone can have sunshine, flowers, a gorgeous wife and be a powerfully built company director. Some peoples lives are always 19-45 on a rainy Wendnesday evening, sitting in a half empty pub in the arse end of London, wondering where it all went wrong.

TIGA84

5,206 posts

231 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Agreed.

There are always plenty of happy songs but Baker Street is meant to be a dirge. Its a song for losers about a man trapped in a cycle of depression and probably alcoholism who keeps telling himself that things are going to change. Tomorrow, he'll get up, sober up and make something of himself, maybe move away from the city to get a clean slate. But at the end of another rubbish day at a meaningless job or possibly just spent hanging around in a greasy spoon, he hits the booze again at either a pub or his equally depressed and stuck in rut mates grotty flat & finds himself thinking about missed opportunity's the same as he does every night.

There is no pretty or even ugly woman in this life, no family to fall back on, there is just him and the inertia of his everyday life. There was plenty of people like this back in the late 70s and probably a few about now, no matter how you dress how wonderful life is these days with Iphones, internet and the Premiership. Some people make life choices that don't work out, some times they don't help themselves.

Not everyone can have sunshine, flowers, a gorgeous wife and be a powerfully built company director. Some peoples lives are always 19-45 on a rainy Wendnesday evening, sitting in a half empty pub in the arse end of London, wondering where it all went wrong.
Blimey, you got all that from a sax riff?

Impressive.

Have a wander over to the MOBO thread, you might be able to shed some light on the bks going on over there............

MitchT

15,867 posts

209 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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The Hypno-Toad said:
Agreed.

There are always plenty of happy songs but Baker Street is meant to be a dirge. Its a song for losers about a man trapped in a cycle of depression and probably alcoholism who keeps telling himself that things are going to change. Tomorrow, he'll get up, sober up and make something of himself, maybe move away from the city to get a clean slate. But at the end of another rubbish day at a meaningless job or possibly just spent hanging around in a greasy spoon, he hits the booze again at either a pub or his equally depressed and stuck in rut mates grotty flat & finds himself thinking about missed opportunity's the same as he does every night.

There is no pretty or even ugly woman in this life, no family to fall back on, there is just him and the inertia of his everyday life. There was plenty of people like this back in the late 70s and probably a few about now, no matter how you dress how wonderful life is these days with Iphones, internet and the Premiership. Some people make life choices that don't work out, some times they don't help themselves.

Not everyone can have sunshine, flowers, a gorgeous wife and be a powerfully built company director. Some peoples lives are always 19-45 on a rainy Wendnesday evening, sitting in a half empty pub in the arse end of London, wondering where it all went wrong.
If can't be all that bad if he can afford to live in London!

The Hypno-Toad

12,281 posts

205 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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MitchT said:
The Hypno-Toad said:
Agreed.

There are always plenty of happy songs but Baker Street is meant to be a dirge. Its a song for losers about a man trapped in a cycle of depression and probably alcoholism who keeps telling himself that things are going to change. Tomorrow, he'll get up, sober up and make something of himself, maybe move away from the city to get a clean slate. But at the end of another rubbish day at a meaningless job or possibly just spent hanging around in a greasy spoon, he hits the booze again at either a pub or his equally depressed and stuck in rut mates grotty flat & finds himself thinking about missed opportunity's the same as he does every night.

There is no pretty or even ugly woman in this life, no family to fall back on, there is just him and the inertia of his everyday life. There was plenty of people like this back in the late 70s and probably a few about now, no matter how you dress how wonderful life is these days with Iphones, internet and the Premiership. Some people make life choices that don't work out, some times they don't help themselves.

Not everyone can have sunshine, flowers, a gorgeous wife and be a powerfully built company director. Some peoples lives are always 19-45 on a rainy Wendnesday evening, sitting in a half empty pub in the arse end of London, wondering where it all went wrong.
If can't be all that bad if he can afford to live in London!
I think there were areas of London back in the 70s (probably not your actual Baker Street.) where you could live very cheaply because basically they were st holes.

I know these things, I've watched repeats of The Sweeney. smile

The Hypno-Toad

12,281 posts

205 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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P.S. Just took a look at the MOBO thread. The only way you could help that would be to nuke it from orbit.

TTwiggy

11,538 posts

204 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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The Hypno-Toad said:
I think there were areas of London back in the 70s (probably not your actual Baker Street.) where you could live very cheaply because basically they were st holes.

I know these things, I've watched repeats of The Sweeney. smile
Notting Hill was certainly a slum in the 70s and it took the race riots of the 80s to change that. By the 90s of course you needed half a mill for a 1 bed flat!

Pickled

2,051 posts

143 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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The Hypno-Toad said:
I think there were areas of London back in the 70s (probably not your actual Baker Street.) where you could live very cheaply because basically they were st holes.

I know these things, I've watched repeats of The Sweeney. smile
My Nan & Grandad owned a property in Cadogan Gardens (SW3) in the 50-60s, and they are/were far from wealthy, he was a self-employed painter/decorator - at todays prices it would be worth multiples of millions.