ARRGGGHHHH outbid twice in 2 weeks on estorils

ARRGGGHHHH outbid twice in 2 weeks on estorils

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ptholt

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221 posts

278 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Damn it, thats twice in two weeks (2 auctions) i've been outbid on a well known ebay auction site in the last 10 seconds for a set of 15 + 16" Estorils, can't someone just sell me a set lol


V8 GRF

7,294 posts

210 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Are you being beaten on the maximum price you want to pay?

ptholt

Original Poster:

221 posts

278 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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first set i got beaten in last few seconds, so second set I went £50 more than the first sets sold price thinking it would be high enough (even tho tyres were less desirable and wheels werent in as good condition as original set) and got outbid at the death again.


SteveSPG

2,120 posts

202 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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bidnapper is your friend........but you still have to stump up the maximum readies,

ptholt

Original Poster:

221 posts

278 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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I was using auction sniper tbh, just got sniped myself at the death hehe

swallet

453 posts

143 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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I sold some last year for £550 on classified - had a phone call within 2 hours of putting them up for sale and the guy didn't haggle.

I'd say that was the ballpark figure.

Frustrating if you are looking for some, especially given that the later speed six wheels go much cheaper

ptholt

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221 posts

278 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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i went to 575 and 620 iirc lol, its a conspiracy!

Next time i may try the "sell them to me now" approach rather than waiting, annoyingly I have noticed 17 and 18" tvr wheels seem to go for much less!

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

210 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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ptholt said:
I was using auction sniper tbh, just got sniped myself at the death hehe
If you're using Auction Sniper you need to set it to 5 seconds and most importantly set your maximum bid to what you're prepared to pay not what you 'think' will win. (subtle difference)

It's all psychological. Obviously you don't want to pay over the odds but Auction Sniper will only bid what is enough to win and you really need to leave it too late for anyone to respond and that includes Auction Sniper.

ptholt

Original Poster:

221 posts

278 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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I had looked at previous sales price and had bid what i thought was enough to win them (backed up by the £550 comment below) must be popular time of year to be selling hence the price jumps as people sell cars at the end of the summer perhaps?

the second set needed at least one new centre and four new caps which with paint of the cap would have made it even more expensive, hard to follow ebay prices at times lol

shake n bake

2,221 posts

207 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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I think I was watching the first set you mentioned, I thought the price was too high once taking postage in to consideration.
I think I'm gonna refurb mine instead, just deciding on colour....

CHIMV8

2,768 posts

221 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Took me ages to get a set,patience is a hard thing when you want them NOW!!


phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Put a "Who knows of a set of Estorils sitting in a loft" thread in the general forum.

CHIMV8

2,768 posts

221 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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ptholt said:
i went to 575 and 620 iirc lol, its a conspiracy!

Next time i may try the "sell them to me now" approach rather than waiting, annoyingly I have noticed 17 and 18" tvr wheels seem to go for much less!
How much did they go for,did they sell with decent tyres.....if I could find a set of alternatives I actually liked and could get on with I could be very tempted to sell

ptholt

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221 posts

278 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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CHIMV8 said:
How much did they go for,did they sell with decent tyres.....if I could find a set of alternatives I actually liked and could get on with I could be very tempted to sell
just over 575 and 621 iirc lol

first set had some good life toyo proxes which whilst good must be getting on a bit by now?
second set were s03's with less tread on.

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,119 posts

165 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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V8 GRF said:
most importantly set your maximum bid to what you're prepared to pay not what you 'think' will win. (subtle difference)
But isn't that what you should do with any ebay bid? I've never seen the point of auction sniping software. If you make a normal ebay bid of the maximum amount that you're prepared to pay, the auction doesn't jump up to that level immediately; it jumps up to a level just high enough to beat anyone else's highest bid so far. And then if someone else makes a higher bid, but still not as high as your maximum bid, your bid will trump theirs and the auction will end up just higher than their maximum - but still not yet up to your own maximum.

And none of this requires you to be actively online - it's just the way ebay auctions work.

So all you need to do is make a single bid of the maximum amount you're prepared to pay, then walk away. If other people push the bidding up to a level that's still below your maximum then you'll win for an amount just greater than anyone else's maximum bid; if they exceed your maximum then they'll win. Simple, surely?

ptholt

Original Poster:

221 posts

278 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
But isn't that what you should do with any ebay bid? I've never seen the point of auction sniping software. If you make a normal ebay bid of the maximum amount that you're prepared to pay, the auction doesn't jump up to that level immediately; it jumps up to a level just high enough to beat anyone else's highest bid so far. And then if someone else makes a higher bid, but still not as high as your maximum bid, your bid will trump theirs and the auction will end up just higher than their maximum - but still not yet up to your own maximum.

And none of this requires you to be actively online - it's just the way ebay auctions work.

So all you need to do is make a single bid of the maximum amount you're prepared to pay, then walk away. If other people push the bidding up to a level that's still below your maximum then you'll win for an amount just greater than anyone else's maximum bid; if they exceed your maximum then they'll win. Simple, surely?
I suspect its also about showing your hand though, if you put a max bid of say up to £200 and are leading for the last two days and its sitting at £175 you would be cautious you could get outbid in the last x second and miss out for only a few pence more without the option to bid back due to lack of time, you could increase your max bid, but where does that stop could be a few pounds more many times over hehe.

Reality in my example was I was outbid just over my max bid (whether sniped or not) so someone was just prepared to pay more, there own limit could have gone even further as it would only bid what was needed to beat me.

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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No, mot that simple.

High bids push the price up.

Sniping keeps the price down to a level below yours.

If I'm keen on an item then I snipe manually within the last 10 seconds.

Say an item is up to £75.00, the guy thinks it's his, (might have a hidden max, who knows).
I think the item is worth £120.00 max so snipe this in at the end.

It might go for £80.00 it might go for more.

The point is, the more bids you put in, especially your highest earlier on will raise the price of the item.

Just my 2ps worth but it works.

ptholt

Original Poster:

221 posts

278 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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the thing that never ceases to amaze me on ebay is quite how much some people are prepared to pay.

let me give you an example, i noticed (whilst looking for trevors tyres) that there was a set of BF goodrich AT for my l200 also on ebay, unknown age, in some shed in kent. i watched them, they sold for £675 and you had to go and collect, thats a small saving of about £20-£30 on most tyre places buying brand new, however at tyreleader.co.uk i bought 4 brand new delivered to my door for £515....

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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ptholt said:
the thing that never ceases to amaze me on ebay is quite how much some people are prepared to pay.

let me give you an example, i noticed (whilst looking for trevors tyres) that there was a set of BF goodrich AT for my l200 also on ebay, unknown age, in some shed in kent. i watched them, they sold for £675 and you had to go and collect, thats a small saving of about £20-£30 on most tyre places buying brand new, however at tyreleader.co.uk i bought 4 brand new delivered to my door for £515....
As above, friend got caught in the stampede for a Land Rover roof rack. Paid £180.00 for a S/H item that was £215.00 brand new at a LR dealer, how we laughed!

pincher

8,558 posts

217 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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phazed said:
Put a "Who knows of a set of Estorils sitting in a loft" thread in the general forum.
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