Damage from the wind... repairable?

Damage from the wind... repairable?

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TokyoSexwhale

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12,230 posts

194 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Evening all,

It has been windy, my neighbours roof has disintegrated and my car felt the force force of a ridge tile:






Do we think the roof damage is cosmetic? Or is there likely to be anything structural under there?

Thanks

PS sodding wind!



badboyburt

2,043 posts

177 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Ouch, wouldnt like to say but I had a fiesta that had roof damage that was written off.


ImDesigner

1,958 posts

194 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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That'll be a write off I think. Sorry.

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Almost certainly a write-off - that's about the most expensive bit of a car's bodywork to repair.

J4CKO

41,543 posts

200 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Write off but doubt it will end up scrapped, bash it out, paint, new screen.


ianwayne

6,292 posts

268 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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I hope your neighbour doesn't take it personally, but you can claim off his home insurance for the damage (presuming he has any?)

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

178 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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ianwayne said:
I hope your neighbour doesn't take it personally, but you can claim off his home insurance for the damage (presuming he has any?)
Not without proving the neighbour is negligent you can't.


TokyoSexwhale

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194 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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ianwayne said:
I hope your neighbour doesn't take it personally, but you can claim off his home insurance for the damage (presuming he has any?)
I have all his policy/broker/personal details. He's a landlord and turned up pronto - there were still some tiles which were dangerous so he was scrabbling to make it safe.

My insurers have carted it off now, I've pointed them to his insurers too.

With stuff like this, what happens re my excess? Anyone able to give their opinion?


kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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If the claim goes to his insurance, you wont pay anything (although obviously he will if he has an excess). If you have to claim against your insurance, you'll pay your excess.

_Deano

7,406 posts

253 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Just out of curiosity, why would the car be written off?


Jimmyarm

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178 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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kambites said:
If the claim goes to his insurance, you wont pay anything (although obviously he will if he has an excess). If you have to claim against your insurance, you'll pay your excess.
How exactly is the claim going to go against anyone else's Insurance in this instance ?


kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Jimmyarm said:
How exactly is the claim going to go against anyone else's Insurance in this instance ?
Have you actually read the thread? smile

Jimmyarm

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178 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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kambites said:
Have you actually read the thread? smile
Yes, now answer the question smile

MagneticMeerkat

1,763 posts

205 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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_Deano said:
Just out of curiosity, why would the car be written off?
The roof consists of a thin metal skin panel, easily replaced, and a frame structure underneath. The frame is made up of the tops of the door pillars, windscreen surround and a joining loop bit. Or at least traditional construction is like that.

If the damage goes deeper than the roof skin, essentially if the top of the windscreen frame is bent, then that's classed as damage to the uni-body. Basically that's the bare shell of the car, to which the subframes and outer panels attach. If this is compromised the car enters a whole world of upper write-off category pain. If it's a rare or valuable model then this can be replaced. If not they'll pay out market value. Repairs involving cutting and welding the body structure can be done, granted, but it's a highly specialised area.

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

165 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Jimmyarm said:
Not without proving the neighbour is negligent you can't.
Time to get up on the neighbours roof and take a photo of some "broken or loose tiles".

TokyoSexwhale

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12,230 posts

194 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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MagneticMeerkat said:
The roof consists of a thin metal skin panel, easily replaced, and a frame structure underneath. The frame is made up of the tops of the door pillars, windscreen surround and a joining loop bit. Or at least traditional construction is like that.

If the damage goes deeper than the roof skin, essentially if the top of the windscreen frame is bent, then that's classed as damage to the uni-body. Basically that's the bare shell of the car, to which the subframes and outer panels attach. If this is compromised the car enters a whole world of upper write-off category pain. If it's a rare or valuable model then this can be replaced. If not they'll pay out market value. Repairs involving cutting and welding the body structure can be done, granted, but it's a highly specialised area.
Interesting, thanks!

_Deano

7,406 posts

253 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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MagneticMeerkat said:
The roof consists of a thin metal skin panel, easily replaced, and a frame structure underneath. The frame is made up of the tops of the door pillars, windscreen surround and a joining loop bit. Or at least traditional construction is like that.

If the damage goes deeper than the roof skin, essentially if the top of the windscreen frame is bent, then that's classed as damage to the uni-body. Basically that's the bare shell of the car, to which the subframes and outer panels attach. If this is compromised the car enters a whole world of upper write-off category pain. If it's a rare or valuable model then this can be replaced. If not they'll pay out market value. Repairs involving cutting and welding the body structure can be done, granted, but it's a highly specialised area.
Cool, learn something new everyday!
smile

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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Jimmyarm said:
kambites said:
Have you actually read the thread? smile
Yes, now answer the question smile
ianwayne said:
I hope your neighbour doesn't take it personally, but you can claim off his home insurance for the damage (presuming he has any?)
Yes it may require proof of inadequate maintenance, but you don't know that he can't get that.

ianwayne

6,292 posts

268 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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What's this twaddle about negligence or bad maintenance? Not necessary.

Buildings Insurance covers 3rd party risk. It's why anyone with a mortgage has to have buildings insurance by law. If he's a landlord he will undoubtedly have it (unless he's a wideboy) to cover against tenants possibly burning it down so the OP should be OK.

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

178 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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kambites said:
Yes it may require proof of inadequate maintenance, but you don't know that he can't get that.
Don't be so ridiculous.

Have you got proof of maintenance of your roof ? Exactly how often does a tiled roof need to be maintained ?

Short of the neighbours property being a condemned wreck the Op has as much chance of making a successful claim as I do of winning the euromillions tonight.

It will probably get written off if it is n early variant but it is fixable smile