Wooden flooring for flat

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Fat hippo

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732 posts

134 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Currently looking to refurbish my flat that has been let ou for past couple of years with a view to sell next year.
Looking to replace the existing laminate flooring in living room and hallway with engineered wood.

Flatnis on the first floor and moaning neighbours have complained about noise below.
Will a good quality underlay reduce noisenor sjouldni look at acoustic board or is there another alternative.

Although the lease says I can't have wooden floors, the previous owners paid anpenalty and a licence to alter from the previous freeholder before they sold to me so as far as i'm aware i can't be forced to re-imstate with carpet. Or am misunderstanding this?

Gingerbread Man

9,171 posts

213 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Was about to comment that you're not normally allowed a solid floor. I've a neighbour above me, the noise transmitting through is bad enough, if I could hear his every foot print, it would drive me over the edge.

Paul Drawmer

4,878 posts

267 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Fat hippo said:
Currently looking to refurbish my flat that has been let ou for past couple of years with a view to sell next year.
Looking to replace the existing laminate flooring in living room and hallway with engineered wood...
What's wrong with the existing floor? Replacing laminate with engineered will be a costly option for something you're planning to sell shortly.

The sound and feel of laminate is very dependant on the underlay used. If your existing floor is in good condition, then you should be able to uplift it and replace the underlay with a better quality.

If the floor needs replacing, a cost effective option would be to replace with laminate, but replace the skirtings as well for the proper finished look.

To really make a difference, you will need to use something like this:
http://www.noisestopsystems.co.uk/floor-soundproof...


Frybywire

468 posts

196 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Despite the lease saying you are not allowed bare floors and the "moaning' neighbours complaining, you sill want to go ahead and annoy the neighbours? Wow you are neighbour from hell.

jon-

16,509 posts

216 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Frybywire said:
Despite the lease saying you are not allowed bare floors and the "moaning' neighbours complaining, you sill want to go ahead and annoy the neighbours? Wow you are neighbour from hell.
And if his username is to be believed, his weight problem will only make the problem worse hehe

Andehh

7,110 posts

206 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Frybywire said:
Despite the lease saying you are not allowed bare floors and the "moaning' neighbours complaining, you sill want to go ahead and annoy the neighbours? Wow you are neighbour from hell.
Pleased I'm not the only one! There is a reason flats don't allow wood floors, don't be a prat...

Edited by Andehh on Thursday 23 October 12:50

Fat hippo

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732 posts

134 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Frybywire said:
Despite the lease saying you are not allowed bare floors and the "moaning' neighbours complaining, you sill want to go ahead and annoy the neighbours? Wow you are neighbour from hell.
I'm honestly not a neighbour from hell. The flat above me has laminate floors and I don't complain about the noise and the flat below me has just exposed floorboards.
My 'moaning' neighbour below thunks she owns the building using my allocated parking, blaming me for water leaks arising from gutters and downpipes on her ground floor flat that she has access ti but won't clean out, blaming me for the mould in her wardrobe next to her bathroom as she doesnt open the window for letting the air circulate and best of all telling me i'm not allowed to sell my flat to someone with children.


Funk

26,274 posts

209 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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You realise that breaching your lease could see you forfeit the property, right...?

Foliage

3,861 posts

122 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Sigh

Fat hippo

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732 posts

134 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Funk said:
You realise that breaching your lease could see you forfeit the property, right...?
Even of a licence to alter has been granted by the previous freeholder?
I'm not a lawyer, but from what i've read on similar cases, where a licence to alter has been franted it can't subsequently be revoked so technically i'm no longe in breach of the lease.

Paul Drawmer

4,878 posts

267 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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The link I supplied above says this:

"has been used to comply with leases that state only carpets or equivalent can be used in flats, when used below solid floor finishes it will be equal to or better than the acoustic performance required in these cases."

Fat hippo

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732 posts

134 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Paul Drawmer said:
The link I supplied above says this:

"has been used to comply with leases that state only carpets or equivalent can be used in flats, when used below solid floor finishes it will be equal to or better than the acoustic performance required in these cases."
Excellent. This is the sort of thing I am after. Have you used it, and if so how effective was it?
Clearly this would be an improvement over my exisitng laminate but I wonder how much noisier it would be compared to a carpet and underlay?

WCZ

10,523 posts

194 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Andehh said:
Pleased I'm not the only one! There is a reason flats don't allow wood floors, don't be a prat...

Edited by Andehh on Thursday 23 October 12:50
? there's thousands and thousands of flats with wooden flooring...

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Like said proceed with caution... I know someone who bought a basement flat in a georgian terrace with a no-wooden-flooring clause affecting the house above, but there was old wooden flooring down, which due to it being historic he tolerated.
-Man upstairs announced intention to replace with new wood floor.
-Man downstairs told him he'd have to use proper soundproofing.
-Man upstairs installs new wood floor with no soundproofing.
-Man downstairs orders him to install soundproofing.
-Man upstairs uplifts it but instead of costly soundproofing installs cheap carpet as substitute and relays floor over.
-Man downstairs orders him to install soundproofing.
-Man upstairs buys man downstairs flat off him...

Sway

26,275 posts

194 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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We've just had Ted Todd engineered oak flooring installed, with their recommended underlay.

Bungalow, so not quite the same, but have lead footed kids!

It's essentially silent. Underlay is a slightly lighter weight to the type Paul linked to - my builders have done several house to flats conversions and the proper stuff just doesn't cause a noise issue (obviously installed correctly etc.).