The Myth of the M25 Speed Camera

The Myth of the M25 Speed Camera

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Dixo619

Original Poster:

13 posts

113 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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I constantly keep on hearing of people getting flashed by speed camera's around the M25 (Including myself) but never receiving a NIP or fine ?

Are these so called "active" speed cameras just a myth or has anybody received a fine after being flashed ?

DrDoofenshmirtz

15,186 posts

199 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Ah, the HADECS cameras?
I think these are why people rarely go above 80mph on the M25 now wink

Beer Man

249 posts

113 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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"Including ME" not 'myself'


humpbackmaniac

1,894 posts

240 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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The Dartford Bridge ones are real. Grrr 62mph, Grrr 4.30am, Grr not another car in sight, Grrr Awareness Course.............

Dixo619

Original Poster:

13 posts

113 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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the one that flashed me was Gantry camera at J20 Anti clockwise

Speed Badger

2,667 posts

116 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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I can say that about 3-4 weeks ago I was blasting round the M25 near Clackets Lane heading towards Dartford Tunnel way and was probably doing about 88mph (sadly I didn't travel through time). It was late, I was late and I was the only car in sight and got lit up like a Christmas strobe light tree passing underneath a gantry. There were no temporary speed limits indicated or lane closures etc, just normal empty dark motorway.

I waited with trepidation but it is now well over 14 days after and received nothing, however I have no idea if there is a selection that are working or whether they are not active for the 70mph limit.

hondafreek

225 posts

169 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Beer Man said:
"Including ME" not 'myself'
Your 35th post was correcting grammar, congratulations.

Dixo619

Original Poster:

13 posts

113 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Speed Badger said:
I can say that about 3-4 weeks ago I was blasting round the M25 near Clackets Lane heading towards Dartford Tunnel way and was probably doing about 88mph (sadly I didn't travel through time). It was late, I was late and I was the only car in sight and got lit up like a Christmas strobe light tree passing underneath a gantry. There were no temporary speed limits indicated or lane closures etc, just normal empty dark motorway.

I waited with trepidation but it is now well over 14 days after and received nothing, however I have no idea if there is a selection that are working or whether they are not active for the 70mph limit.
I'm hearing this exact same story from a lot of people , I think they maybe possibly produce fines when a variable speed limit is being shown on the gantry.

Terminator X

14,921 posts

203 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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M25 gantries only on when limits are reduced. Allegedly you will get a ticket above 90mph though. I used to go through daily at 88 on speedo with no ticket.

TX.

Conscript

1,378 posts

120 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Were the speed matrix signs on the gantry showing?

I know that if someone gets flashed by the camera, but the LED matrix sign showing the speed limit is malfunctioning (that could mean, 1 out of the hundreds of LEDs which make up the sign doesn't work), then the fine is automatically cancelled.

That's one way you can spot which gantries have a camera attached. A few hundred yards before the gantry, at the side of the road, is a pole holding a set of CCTV cameras - these are pointed at the LED matrix signs, and designed to determine if, at the time the speed camera functions, if the relevant matrix sign is not displaying correctly.

Snollygoster

1,538 posts

138 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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I've spent plenty of time on the managed motorways all over the UK. When it's displaying NSL, I just sit at 70 with cruise on. Plenty of people come past you. On the M25 in particular almost everyone comes past you.

For the sake of trying to go another 10-20 mph whilst the time you're in the speed camera area, I just sit back without the worry of did I get caught or not. It's not going to save you that much time.

The way I see it is there is a speed camera there, if they choose to put it on and you are doing 80, be happy and prepared to take the points.

Dixo619

Original Poster:

13 posts

113 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Conscript said:
Were the speed matrix signs on the gantry showing?

I know that if someone gets flashed by the camera, but the LED matrix sign showing the speed limit is malfunctioning (that could mean, 1 out of the hundreds of LEDs which make up the sign doesn't work), then the fine is automatically cancelled.

That's one way you can spot which gantries have a camera attached. A few hundred yards before the gantry, at the side of the road, is a pole holding a set of CCTV cameras - these are pointed at the LED matrix signs, and designed to determine if, at the time the speed camera functions, if the relevant matrix sign is not displaying correctly.
From what I can remember there was nothing showing.

Pan Pan

1,116 posts

126 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Having had to use the Northern arc of the M25 quite a lot lately, I have seen these gantry cameras flashing quite a lot, (fortunately not on the side of the road I was on) I am assuming they track the speed of vehicles moving away from them. but can they also collect vehicles travelling towards them on the opposite carriageway?

Beer Man

249 posts

113 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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hondafreek said:
Your 35th post was correcting grammar, congratulations.
Thanks.

American-English really gets on my tits. For example, people at a bar "Can I get......" No, you can't. Unless you go behind the bar and serve it. What's wrong with "Please may I have"? That's the correct way.

robinessex

11,046 posts

180 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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The only flash I've had is the anti-clockwise one by Clacketts Lane. No NIP though. It was 3am though, and the M25 was empty.

robinessex

11,046 posts

180 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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humpbackmaniac said:
The Dartford Bridge ones are real. Grrr 62mph, Grrr 4.30am, Grr not another car in sight, Grrr Awareness Course.............
That's odd. Many years ago, before the bridge, I was caught making progress in the tunnel by a following police car. Got a fine, but no points as it was not past of the highway. Worth looking into that I reckon.

OldBob

290 posts

158 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Terminator X said:
M25 gantries only on when limits are reduced. Allegedly you will get a ticket above 90mph though. I used to go through daily at 88 on speedo with no ticket.

TX.
Re 90, is this folklore or confirmed by anyone? My lad has been claiming it to be the case for some time time now and we stay under just in case, but it would be good to know anyone who can confirm they got done by one for over 90.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

227 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Beer Man said:
hondafreek said:
Your 35th post was correcting grammar, congratulations.
Thanks.

American-English really gets on my tits. For example, people at a bar "Can I get......" No, you can't. Unless you go behind the bar and serve it. What's wrong with "Please may I have"? That's the correct way.
Your right.

OldBob

290 posts

158 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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stephen300o said:
Beer Man said:
hondafreek said:
Your 35th post was correcting grammar, congratulations.
Thanks.

American-English really gets on my tits. For example, people at a bar "Can I get......" No, you can't. Unless you go behind the bar and serve it. What's wrong with "Please may I have"? That's the correct way.
Your right.
Go for it Beer Man he's left himself open for one of the most common corrections, perhaps ironically though.

Krikkit

26,500 posts

180 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Pan Pan said:
Having had to use the Northern arc of the M25 quite a lot lately, I have seen these gantry cameras flashing quite a lot, (fortunately not on the side of the road I was on) I am assuming they track the speed of vehicles moving away from them. but can they also collect vehicles travelling towards them on the opposite carriageway?
They only track vehicles travelling away from them, just like an ordinary GATSO.