RE: Four-cylinder Cayman at the Nurburgring
Discussion
soad said:
Evo said:
The 914 has been re-invented 
They'll get it right, flat four should sound interesting, if a 4 cylinder can work in something like the Alfa 4C Porsche will do a fine job i'm sure.
The Porsche 912, you mean. They'll get it right, flat four should sound interesting, if a 4 cylinder can work in something like the Alfa 4C Porsche will do a fine job i'm sure.
Porsche flat-four engines: the spec
CAR has seen spec data on the new flat-four project, suggesting it will come in three different displacements and power outputs:
Porsche 1.6 flat four 210bhp
Porsche 2.0 flat four 286bhp
Porsche 2.5 flat four 360bhp
Sauce: http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Searc...
CAR has seen spec data on the new flat-four project, suggesting it will come in three different displacements and power outputs:
Porsche 1.6 flat four 210bhp
Porsche 2.0 flat four 286bhp
Porsche 2.5 flat four 360bhp
Sauce: http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Searc...
If someone buys ones and bins it, then drop me a pm as I would love to put this engine in my 914.....
Plenty of Porsche haters on this thread (as usual!). Nothing wrong with a Flat 4 lump either and anyone that's been in the air cooled VW scene will tell you just how tuneable they are, especially the Typ4 engine.
Plenty of Porsche haters on this thread (as usual!). Nothing wrong with a Flat 4 lump either and anyone that's been in the air cooled VW scene will tell you just how tuneable they are, especially the Typ4 engine.
I honestly don't see what the fuzz is about. I thought it was already common knowledge that the 4-bangers were coming for the Boxsters and Cays? These (somewhat substantiated) rumours have been floating around for quite some time now. The flat sixes are definitely gone for all ranges but the 911.
I would, however, take the BHP numbers posted above with a grain of salt. Where do these even come from? I can't see them offering three distinct engine variants for the Boxster and Cayman ranges. They probably wouldn't even know what to call them.
Besides, Porsche has stated time and time again that they will not make a model that would be situated beneath the Boxster and I think we can safely assume that they'll stick with that (after all, they don't have to make their cars cheaper and they know it). Also, giving the Base Boxster the quoted 210BHP engine would be a serious downgrade - they don't usually do that either. After all, who would honestly buy it then (unless its entry price were to be lowered significantly)?
Maybe they'll put the 360BHP one in the Base Carrera? That would make sense (Porsche 912 anyone?)...at least power-wise. Though this would surely have a bunch of people jumping from roofs somewhere...
I would, however, take the BHP numbers posted above with a grain of salt. Where do these even come from? I can't see them offering three distinct engine variants for the Boxster and Cayman ranges. They probably wouldn't even know what to call them.
Besides, Porsche has stated time and time again that they will not make a model that would be situated beneath the Boxster and I think we can safely assume that they'll stick with that (after all, they don't have to make their cars cheaper and they know it). Also, giving the Base Boxster the quoted 210BHP engine would be a serious downgrade - they don't usually do that either. After all, who would honestly buy it then (unless its entry price were to be lowered significantly)?
Maybe they'll put the 360BHP one in the Base Carrera? That would make sense (Porsche 912 anyone?)...at least power-wise. Though this would surely have a bunch of people jumping from roofs somewhere...
Coxy914 said:
Nothing wrong with a Flat 4 lump either and anyone that's been in the air cooled VW scene will tell you just how tuneable they are, especially the Typ4 engine.
<cynic> An engine with fairly low specific output (e.g. 47 hp/litre from the Type 4 in a 914) is usually going to be readily tuneable </cynic>otolith said:
BRMMA said:
I can't see any negatives to this. the 6 cylinder will still be there for those that want it, though i suspect the 4 pot will comfortably out sell the 6 cylinder cars
I wouldn't be so sure of the six remaining in the sub-911 cars for long.By downsizing elsewhere in the range, Porsche can meet the emissions regs whilst protecting the sacred flat 6 in the 911.
Porsche have a great back catalogue of 4 cylinder cars, so this makes perfect sense.
Plus the flat 4 turbo in my old Subaru WRX was one of the most charachterful engines I've ever come across. If Porsche can capture even some of the charachter available from a flat 4 turbo, fitted into a car which is undisputed class leader, benefit from further weight savings, improved fuel economy and possibly even charge less for it, whats not to like?
Terminator X said:
dukebox9reg said:
Terminator X said:
Real shame to see the brand watered down. Profit above all else it seems.
TX.
Yes because Porsche have no history making 4 pot cars.......I think you'll find the 4s came before the 6's. TX.
You could argue that the 914 was the original boxster/cayman and that had 4 pots and a 6 pot.
I can't see how a 4 cylinder in these is really watering it down. At least its still a flat 4 rather than an inline.
TX.
Wills2 said:
The point people are trying to make to you, is Porsche have many 4 pot cars in their history so a 4 pot Cayman doesn't water down anything.
I didn't mention history? The point I'm trying to make [to you] is that the current model range ergo brand is watered down with the advent of this new engine. As it was at the time the diesel engine came out. Strong model range vs weakened model range = watered down!TX.
otolith said:
NGK210 said:
A powerful, light-weight boxer engine that has tweakage potential via a re-map - what's not to like 
1. Sound2. Throttle response
4. Won't be as rev happy
Plus, what makes you think it'll be lighter? I don't think they'll be that much difference in mass.
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