RE: New Lotus design boss announced

RE: New Lotus design boss announced

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lotusmad2001

103 posts

171 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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MrTappets said:
Always thought the current Exige is one of the best looking Lotuses ever. Was that one of Coco's?
can you not see a bit of california in there? I though as soon as the s3 elise pictures got released that the front was veryyyy similar to the california and I didn't know who designed it (honest :P)


dvs_dave

8,609 posts

225 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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kambites said:
Because that worked out so well for TVR? hehe
You and I both know there was a lot more at play with the demise of TVR than just product. smile

There is still a demand for a polished version of that sort of car and lotus are well placed to fill that albeit small niche.

LotusEspritTurbo

754 posts

255 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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dvs_dave said:
I wish Lotus would build something hairy chested, properly fast, actually desirable, and a decent size.
That would be the Esprit then. But Lotus have announced they've scrapped the development and there won't be one.

braddo

10,433 posts

188 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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LotusEspritTurbo said:
dvs_dave said:
I wish Lotus would build something hairy chested, properly fast, actually desirable, and a decent size.
That would be the Esprit then. But Lotus have announced they've scrapped the development and there won't be one.
I'm sure that if dvs_dave or anyone else wants to front up the £500m or whatever it takes to develop an Espirit, Lotus will only be too happy build it!

The new CEO has no choice but to rationalise things and stabilise the business before Lotus's owners consider loosening the purse strings. I sure hope they do.

kbf1981

2,250 posts

200 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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The new Exige is gorgeous.

deltashad

6,731 posts

197 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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The Elise is the bread and butter of Lotus, ergonomically a fantastic car but it needed the facelift back in 2010 (or whenever it was done) but the facelift is weak. Restyle the Elise first, make it more masculine then think about something more super.
The Evora is a dead weight, its going to be dropped form the US market soon. It looks bland and doesnt have the performance. I would want a complete Evora replacement, much more striking to look at, lighter and quicker.


kambites

67,543 posts

221 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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deltashad said:
The Evora is a dead weight, its going to be dropped form the US market soon.
Only for a few months.

BBS-LM

3,972 posts

224 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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C43 said:
he did a great job on the Evora. On the road they look amazing, just dont see enough.

C43
Agree there, good to see him back at lotus, he has a very good eye for design, can only be a good thing.

MikeGalos

261 posts

284 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Give me a drop-top Evora with some modern telematics and I'll trade in my Elise...

chelme

1,353 posts

170 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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smilo996 said:
Well that would appear to send a very strong signal. no new cars and one looking like the Evora if they do.
Why another step back. It will end in tears again.
+1

Impasse

15,099 posts

241 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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kambites said:
deltashad said:
The Evora is a dead weight, its going to be dropped form the US market soon.
Only for a few months.
Not technically true. There will be no more exemptions for the current spec airbags and as such no further current spec cars will be imported.
The 2015MY addresses this issue along with some styling changes inside and out and will be revealed early next year before deliveries start mid/late autumn.
In the meantime the USA dealers still have access to plenty of landed stock.

corozin

2,680 posts

271 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Let's hope he can design a car, at a price point that SELLS.

No point making pretty, fast cars if they cost too much money and no-one buys them...

redroadster

1,737 posts

232 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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corozin said:
Let's hope he can design a car, at a price point that SELLS.

No point making pretty, fast cars if they cost too much money and no-one buys them...
That's a very good point they need to get there prices right ,make money but make product look value a bit of a balancing act for a small volume player.

Corranga

50 posts

169 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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The Bahar-era cars to me looked like generic modern sports/supercars with Lotus badges stuck on, completely lacking in identity, and could easily have been knock off Ferrari / Porsche / Lambo / Pagani designs made for a new Grand Theft Auto video game.

The Evora at least has Lotus looks about it, and despite some awkward lines, has good road presence and looks pretty special.

I think the Elise is stuck in looking-like-an-Elise mode due to the chassis, wheelbase, engine location etc remaining the same - they aren't exactly large cars either, but without input from another car company financially, I doubt we'll be seeing anything all that new from Lotus for a while, but that's nothing new if you look at the last 20 years.


Kolbenkopp

2,343 posts

151 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Corranga said:
The Evora at least has Lotus looks about it, and despite some awkward lines, has good road presence and looks pretty special.
Yeah, old phrase, but it is defo a car that looks much, much better in the GRP. Mr. Carr is going to do just fine IMO. Didn't he style the S2 Elise as well? That thing is going to turn *15* next yeat. Still looking very fresh IMVHO.

MBZ113

1 posts

114 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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Ah, so now they can return to their comfort zone of throwing together under-developed and cramped toy cars, hoping that nobody will notice how the umpteenth derivative of the same old theme is really nothing new and long overdue for replacement.
He may have ruffled lots of feathers but I think Bahar’s vision and ambition was much closer to Chapman’s than anyone there cares to admit.
Not that I have a view on it…

British Beef

2,209 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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MBZ113 said:
...throwing together under-developed and cramped toy cars...
First post and this is how you describe the manufacturer of some of the best drivers cars on the road!
You sir are a complete fool.
"under-developed".......?
"cramped" has some mileage for the Elise range.

MikeGoodwin

3,336 posts

117 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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Evora is well overdue for a facelift it looks really dated now. Was a nice move back in the day and it looked pretty special. I wouldnt expect them to release new models any time soon and the Exige S3 isnt really due a facelift, is it? Cant be a bad thing.

LEE337

82 posts

135 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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Impasse said:
Not technically true. There will be no more exemptions for the current spec airbags and as such no further current spec cars will be imported.
The 2015MY addresses this issue along with some styling changes inside and out and will be revealed early next year before deliveries start mid/late autumn.
In the meantime the USA dealers still have access to plenty of landed stock.
This guy speaks the truth wink

bobo

1,702 posts

278 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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how much of the styling is going to change?

if its just a bumper i fear may not be enough frown