Police and bad driving

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ruggedscotty

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5,606 posts

208 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Now Im not a police knocker - but on this occasion ill make an exception - Sherifhall roundabout - came round roundabout and took the exit for A7 south. It can be a reasonably quick roundabout if you get the lights in your favour....

I left the roundabout and was met by a police car on the wrong side of the road heading towards the roundabout.....

extremely dangerous action indeed. Yes blues and siren were on but still id have questioned that activity. if they had been a bit further up then there would have been an accident.

alangtt

278 posts

161 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Sorry pointless story,
Do you want a cuddle?

Ki3r

7,805 posts

158 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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I'm guessing there where keep left signs coming onto the roundabout? In which case they have an exemption for them.

ben5732

763 posts

155 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Would of been a grade 1 call I.e. threat to life. Every second can count...

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

127 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Might not have been that bad. People often go off on one seeing a police car on the wrong side of the road. In response training you are taught to use the other side of the road to give a better view of the road ahead.

ben5732

763 posts

155 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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alangtt said:
Sorry pointless story,
Do you want a cuddle?
Can I have one?

George111

6,930 posts

250 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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ben5732 said:
Would of been a grade 1 call I.e. threat to life. Every second can count...
Not to the point of causing another life threatening situation.

I commute on a road used by the plod for "driver training" and have on several occasions seen them overtaking approaching or on blind bends. The 17 year old boy racers have nothing on plod in Hertfordshire.

Cooperman

4,428 posts

249 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Some may remember the Met.trainee driver, when doing 'pursuit training' up the A10 towards Cambridge from Royston and when they were doing 110 mph+, crashed into the back of the rear car in a queue at Harston. A young nurse was killed, but the trainee driver did not go to prison. In fact I believe there was no further action - accidental death being the verdict of the Coroner.

Sheepshanks

32,519 posts

118 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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ruggedscotty said:
It can be a reasonably quick roundabout if you get the lights in your favour....
So now you know to take it a bit slower just in case there's a police car coming towards you - or some other obstruction.

ghamer

602 posts

154 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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alangtt said:
Sorry pointless story,
Do you want a cuddle?
PMSL

Tribal Chestnut

2,996 posts

181 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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I went past a Police van earlier doing an indicated 70 or so whilst plonked squarely in the middle lane. Lane 1 was empty. Naughty boy.

vonhosen

40,198 posts

216 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Cooperman said:
Some may remember the Met.trainee driver, when doing 'pursuit training' up the A10 towards Cambridge from Royston and when they were doing 110 mph+, crashed into the back of the rear car in a queue at Harston. A young nurse was killed, but the trainee driver did not go to prison. In fact I believe there was no further action - accidental death being the verdict of the Coroner.
He was convicted of careless driving.

Mk3Spitfire

2,921 posts

127 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Tribal Chestnut said:
I went past a Police van earlier doing an indicated 70 or so whilst plonked squarely in the middle lane. Lane 1 was empty. Naughty boy.
Not all police are perfect drivers. You can't teach every officer to be perfect behind the wheel. And before you mention hypocrisy, many police officers will go years, if not their whole career without stopping a car, and certainly for MLM.

simoid

19,772 posts

157 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Cooperman said:
Some may remember the Met.trainee driver, when doing 'pursuit training' up the A10 towards Cambridge from Royston and when they were doing 110 mph+, crashed into the back of the rear car in a queue at Harston. A young nurse was killed, but the trainee driver did not go to prison. In fact I believe there was no further action - accidental death being the verdict of the Coroner.
Not sure what the legal definition is, but to a layman, that looks awfully like someone was:

Driving dangerously, and;
Causing death.

vonhosen

40,198 posts

216 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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simoid said:
Cooperman said:
Some may remember the Met.trainee driver, when doing 'pursuit training' up the A10 towards Cambridge from Royston and when they were doing 110 mph+, crashed into the back of the rear car in a queue at Harston. A young nurse was killed, but the trainee driver did not go to prison. In fact I believe there was no further action - accidental death being the verdict of the Coroner.
Not sure what the legal definition is, but to a layman, that looks awfully like someone was:

Driving dangerously, and;
Causing death.
He was charged with death by dangerous driving. A jury (having all the evidence before them) acquitted him of that, but found him guilty of the alternate charge of careless driving.

Cooperman

4,428 posts

249 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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simoid said:
Not sure what the legal definition is, but to a layman, that looks awfully like someone was:

Driving dangerously, and;
Causing death.
Yes, many who live in this area were disgusted by the decision not to find him guilty of 'causing Death by D.D.' and the instructor for 'aiding & abetting'.
They got less than someone who names the 'wrong' person on an S.172.
Funny old World!

vonhosen

40,198 posts

216 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Cooperman said:
simoid said:
Not sure what the legal definition is, but to a layman, that looks awfully like someone was:

Driving dangerously, and;
Causing death.
Yes, many who live in this area were disgusted by the decision not to find him guilty of 'causing Death by D.D.' and the instructor for 'aiding & abetting'.
They got less than someone who names the 'wrong' person on an S.172.
Funny old World!
You do appear to know rather less about the case than the jury did though.

mph1977

12,467 posts

167 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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vonhosen said:
simoid said:
Cooperman said:
Some may remember the Met.trainee driver, when doing 'pursuit training' up the A10 towards Cambridge from Royston and when they were doing 110 mph+, crashed into the back of the rear car in a queue at Harston. A young nurse was killed, but the trainee driver did not go to prison. In fact I believe there was no further action - accidental death being the verdict of the Coroner.
Not sure what the legal definition is, but to a layman, that looks awfully like someone was:

Driving dangerously, and;
Causing death.
He was charged with death by dangerous driving. A jury (having all the evidence before them) acquitted him of that, but found him guilty of the alternate charge of careless driving.
I presume this was before the charge of Causing Death by Careless Driving was available ?

simoid

19,772 posts

157 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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vonhosen said:
He was charged with death by dangerous driving. A jury (having all the evidence before them) acquitted him of that, but found him guilty of the alternate charge of careless driving.
I was able to read between the lines and see that, yes. Still drove into the back of a queue at "license losing speed", causing a death, which was my point. Seems quite unbelievable.

smegmore

3,091 posts

175 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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vonhosen said:
He was charged with death by dangerous driving. A jury (having all the evidence before them) acquitted him of that, but found him guilty of the alternate charge of careless driving.
No st.

Pension entitlement in mind, no doubt. rolleyes