Someone I know crashed in to a roundabout - Advice please!

Someone I know crashed in to a roundabout - Advice please!

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SimonSh

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86 posts

216 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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In doing so they went through one of the chevron signs on the roundabout and took out 2 of its posts - they are (optimistically I think) wanting to repair the car without advising their insurance company and are therefore looking to also pay for the damaged signage themselves if/when the council invoices them. (The police attended and so I am guessing they will inform the council of the signage damage)

My question is does anyone have a decent educated guess at to the likely cost of the roundabout "furniture"??

rix

2,780 posts

190 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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A lot more than you'd think. I reckon prob £500-1000 from what you describe. Obviously it will require a couple of site visits and labour etc... Plus they'd still have to disclose the accident to their insurers regardless of whether they loose their ncb. Probably a non starter!

SimonSh

Original Poster:

86 posts

216 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Thanks Rix - What is that guesstimate based on? (I'm not being cheeky - it's just the individual concerned will ask me the same question!!)

TooLateForAName

4,744 posts

184 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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I suspect that the estimate given is low.

Based on what highways wanted to charge our parish council for erecting a 20mph sign outside the school 5 years ago.

dacouch

1,172 posts

129 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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More likely to be upwards of £1000.


StuntmanMike

11,671 posts

151 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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I saw an entire exhaust system, sump and thick black line of oil going over a roundabout once, I had to laugh, imagine the brown trouser moment there.

SimonSh

Original Poster:

86 posts

216 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Are these figures based on experience or just guesses? I really need to know because I may be able to persuade them to just go via insurance instead of potentially ending up with a part repaired car and a council debt frown

AGK

1,601 posts

155 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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£1000 won't touch the sides.

Let inaurance deal with it.


vonhosen

40,230 posts

217 months

HTP99

22,529 posts

140 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Being a car accident and with the Council involved I would imagine they would insist that insurance is involved, they wont want to be chasing your mate for invoices to be paid and I should think the cost of replacing the sign would run into a few thousand at the very least; surveys, a team of workers for a few days, no doubt part of the road where they are working would be shut so temporary traffic lights would need to be installed and then there is the cost of the actual sign itself.

Edited by HTP99 on Saturday 25th October 17:36

dudleybloke

19,802 posts

186 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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It wont be cheap.

Will there need to be any lane closures/traffic management in place while the repairs being done?
What size chevron sign/poles/ect?

without a pic of the damage its hard to even hazard a guess.

oobster

7,087 posts

211 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Back in 1989 I managed to half a 30mph speed limit sign in two with the front of my mini on the way to the scene of my accident, I then received a bill in from the council for around £700.

I don't suppose prices have gone down any in the last 25 years.

SimonSh

Original Poster:

86 posts

216 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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vonhosen said:
Thanks for that vonhosen!!! Looks like it will be rough equivalent of 2 regulatory signs on new posts (Although there could be additional costs for removing damaged old ones) so yes around £1k seems likely.

Thanks all who contributed!!

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

173 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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HTP99 said:
Being a car accident and with the Council involved I would imagine they would insist that insurance is involved, they wont want to be chasing your mate for invoices to be paid and I should think the cost of replacing the sign would run into a few thousand at the very least; surveys, a team of workers for a few days, no doubt part of the road where they are working would be shut so temporary traffic lights would need to be installed and then there is the cost of the actual sign itself.

Edited by HTP99 on Saturday 25th October 17:36
Pretty much this, not the area of insurance I deal with but a close friend does and from what I've heard about local authorities is that they charge for every cost involved, reckon it'll be over £1,500 easily.
They will most likely go through insurance as they know the costs can be recovered quickly.

rix

2,780 posts

190 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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I used to work for a local authority some 10 plus years ago, I only dealt with simple street signs but remember them being several hundred at a minimum, so by guesstimate is VERY loosely based on that!

TwigtheWonderkid

43,327 posts

150 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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HTP99 said:
Being a car accident and with the Council involved I would imagine they would insist that insurance is involved,
They can't insist on that. They can insist they get paid, but not who by.

sugerbear

4,025 posts

158 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Are the council entitled to a new sign? Don't they have to follow rules as everyone else,(betterment), so if the sign is old they can only claim a %

sugerbear

4,025 posts

158 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Are the council entitled to a new sign? Don't they have to follow rules as everyone else,(betterment), so if the sign is old they can only claim a %

steve2

1,772 posts

218 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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you will be looking at two grand plus and normally it will be highways that deal with it

ooo000ooo

2,529 posts

194 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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£1500 replaced a lamppost a mate removed.