Gliding.

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RichB

51,514 posts

284 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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jjones said:
...if my budget were restricted I would take a paramotor over a glider.
I'd be very interested to know why, especially if you've sampled both or either forms of flight.

AnotherClarkey

3,593 posts

189 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Big News

1,937 posts

179 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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AnotherClarkey said:
That glider met a fairly interesting fate not long after, in not dissimilar circumstances...

http://soaringsection.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/swimm...

AnotherClarkey

3,593 posts

189 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Big News said:
That glider met a fairly interesting fate not long after, in not dissimilar circumstances...

http://soaringsection.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/swimm...
Can't say I am 100% surprised, there was a lot of faith put in the breeze continuing to blow.

jjones

4,426 posts

193 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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RichB said:
I'd be very interested to know why, especially if you've sampled both or either forms of flight.
I have a ppl so not tried either paramotors or gliders.

However, I have been to both glider clubs and a paramotor fly-in before I embarked on the nppl and spent a few months researching both. The main thing I found, and as already been mentioned, you may well spend all day at the glider club for a couple of minutes airtime - not my thing.

Boring holes through the air I often see gliders about as you would expect and they are always seem to be going in circles within a mile or two of the launch site.

Personally I prefer going somewhere with the means to get back hence why I would take paramotor over gliding.

Simpo Two

85,343 posts

265 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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jjones said:
Boring holes through the air I often see gliders about as you would expect and they are always seem to be going in circles within a mile or two of the launch site.

Personally I prefer going somewhere with the means to get back hence why I would take paramotor over gliding.
Perhaps the difference is that you view air travel as a means of getting from A to B, whereas gliding is about enjoyment and flying for the sake of it. Straight-and-level is much more boring than pulling G in a thermal and hearing the wind whistling over the canopy and seeing the horizon suddenly tilt to 45 degrees... Enjoyment is about NOT having to go somewhere!

RichB

51,514 posts

284 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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jjones said:
I have a ppl so not tried either paramotors or gliders.

However, I have been to both glider clubs and a paramotor fly-in before I embarked on the nppl and spent a few months researching both. The main thing I found, and as already been mentioned, you may well spend all day at the glider club for a couple of minutes airtime - not my thing.

Boring holes through the air I often see gliders about as you would expect and they are always seem to be going in circles within a mile or two of the launch site.

Personally I prefer going somewhere with the means to get back hence why I would take paramotor over gliding.
That's fair enough. I guess I'm the opposite in that I have a number of friends with PPLs and have flown their Cessnas and Warriors but it's pretty (actually very) boring. The only thing that would get me into power flying is the machines themselves and that would mean owning a classic or vintage aircraft hence the licence would be incidental to the aircraft rather than the PPL being the object itself (if you see what I mean). The actual process of flying from A to B is no more exciting than taking a taxi or driving my Volvo.

Gliding on the other hand is a challenge and can be both beautiful and exhilarating. I've not tried paramotoring but it looks like the wing and lawnmower engine concept and to me that just looks cold, very slow and noisy.


croyde

22,850 posts

230 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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If this 14 year old girl can do it.

It's her first solo and she just humming to herself. She has been doing it since 10 years old though. Have a look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMG1trzznHg


RichB

51,514 posts

284 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Another one here which is only 1:30 long... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-2...

Simpo Two

85,343 posts

265 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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croyde said:
If this 14 year old girl can do it.

It's her first solo and she just humming to herself. She has been doing it since 10 years old though. Have a look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMG1trzznHg
Excellent! I just wish they'd fitted the camera level, my head doesn't have trim tabs!

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Can you stop this thread please? this is another thing I NEED to do but don't have time for yet.

williamp

19,248 posts

273 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Lovely sport. used to fly at west malling with the air cadets.

Ever seen gliding aerobatics? Saw it one year at a local airshow. Very impressive.

marksx

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5,052 posts

190 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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marksx said:
hehe

Thanks!

House to finish restoring before I've got enough free time to consider anything. WTF is it with st music on youtube videos? the woosh of the wind etc would make that a lot better.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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croyde said:
If this 14 year old girl can do it.

It's her first solo and she just humming to herself. She has been doing it since 10 years old though. Have a look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMG1trzznHg
Hugely impressive!

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

279 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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How do gliders make sure they stay out of the way of powered ac e.g. low flying military jets, etc?


perdu

4,884 posts

199 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Surely all pilots, whizz-whooshy stuff and swooopy-swoopy stuff need to keep their eyes open.

And surely all gliding school areas are notified to FJ pilots when they flight plan.

Or?


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RichB

51,514 posts

284 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Ayahuasca said:
How do gliders make sure they stay out of the way of powered ac e.g. low flying military jets, etc?
Power gives way to gliders. Yes of course we keep a damn good look out but that's the rule.

Abagnale

366 posts

114 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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RichB said:
Power gives way to gliders. Yes of course we keep a damn good look out but that's the rule.
It's an old saying but a truism that it's not much use insisting you were in the right from your hospital bed, so keeping a good lookout is everything...as well as following the rules of the air.

As for the motors v gliding debate, it's all a question of what you want to do. For me, gliding was all about pitting your wits with nature, learning to spot & use thermals to climb & make progress over the country. An engine wouldn't have done it for me, but others do their thing, it's a big sky.

I was into paragliders by the way, started out at Dunstable & we shared the ridge with the London gliding club - lovely, accommodating people, who welcomed us to their hill, club & bar.

It's a sociable thing in every discipline.

jjones

4,426 posts

193 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Ayahuasca said:
How do gliders make sure they stay out of the way of powered ac e.g. low flying military jets, etc?
as mentioned gliders have right of way (unless they come across a balloon smile )

Modern gliders are extremely sleek and very difficult to spot, especially at cloud base, unless they happen to turn and the sun glints off them. I always pay attention to the glider sites and give them a couple of miles berth as well as keeping your eyes peeled in their vicinity. If there is a NOTAM out for a glider event that is on my route I give the telephone number given a call before setting out to see if there are any airborne and if so how many and where they are likely to be.