Any tips for getting a puppy to stop crying all night..
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Got an 11week old puppy and toilet trainings going well but night time is abit of a chore.
He goes off to sleep in his bed then we sneak off upstair s but then he either poos or wees in the kitchen then howls..
Whats the best way to go about this?
Am i right in thinking i should go down during the night and let him into the garden and then stick him back in his bed with no fuss? Hoping that eventually he'll learn that crying doesnt mean we'll come down?
Any tips appreciated as me and the mrs are walking zombies!
He goes off to sleep in his bed then we sneak off upstair s but then he either poos or wees in the kitchen then howls..
Whats the best way to go about this?
Am i right in thinking i should go down during the night and let him into the garden and then stick him back in his bed with no fuss? Hoping that eventually he'll learn that crying doesnt mean we'll come down?
Any tips appreciated as me and the mrs are walking zombies!
Edited by elephantstone on Sunday 26th October 10:24
elephantstone said:
Got an 11week old puppy and toilet trainings going well but night time is abit of a chore.
He goes off to sleep in his bed then we sneak off upstair s but then he either poos or wees in the kitchen then howls..
Whats the best way to go about this?
Am i right in thinking i should go down during the night and let him into the garden and then stick him back in his bed with no fuss? Hoping that eventually he'll learn that crying doesnt mean we'll come down?
Any tips appreciated as me and the mrs are walking zombies!
I'm no expert but I have had several puppy's and they all cried at night! He goes off to sleep in his bed then we sneak off upstair s but then he either poos or wees in the kitchen then howls..
Whats the best way to go about this?
Am i right in thinking i should go down during the night and let him into the garden and then stick him back in his bed with no fuss? Hoping that eventually he'll learn that crying doesnt mean we'll come down?
Any tips appreciated as me and the mrs are walking zombies!
Edited by elephantstone on Sunday 26th October 10:24
First of all get him in a crate, this helps loads as they learn to hold on as they don't like messing in their bed.
If I were you, my routine would be go to bed, let him howl etc, he will eventually go to sleep. You have to ignore him, he will make some horrible noises and it's very distressing to listen to but you have to ignore it. Then I would be letting him outside three times a night for the first week. Second week drop it to two times a night. Then drop it to once a night. And then eventually you won't need to get up at all.
Yes you will be tired, it's like having a baby for the first few weeks. You will be tired for the next few weeks I'm afraid, but it will be worth it in the end.
Most important, don't give him any attention if he's making a noise, just ignore. Then as I say, when he's sleepomg go wake him up, outside for 5, back to bed. No fuss.
Also this always works for me: take the t shirt you have been wearing that day and put it in his crate with him, the smell of you will really help him settle.
Start tonight before it's too late!
Good luck, it will seem like a long journey but you will get there.
We've had Setters for years and years, have a Gordon Setter now. For the first couple of weeks, we would take it in turns to sleep with the pup in the same room. We normally used a spare room, though with our current girl - it was the front room. The noises stop, but the messing about all night starts! Jumping on you at silly o'clock... etc.. 
As said above, they're very much like babies, I'd say 80% of the serious hard work of raising a puppy, is done within the first month or two.
As said above, they're very much like babies, I'd say 80% of the serious hard work of raising a puppy, is done within the first month or two.
Wheat said:
I'm no expert but I have had several puppy's and they all cried at night!
First of all get him in a crate, this helps loads as they learn to hold on as they don't like messing in their bed.
If I were you, my routine would be go to bed, let him howl etc, he will eventually go to sleep. You have to ignore him, he will make some horrible noises and it's very distressing to listen to but you have to ignore it. Then I would be letting him outside three times a night for the first week. Second week drop it to two times a night. Then drop it to once a night. And then eventually you won't need to get up at all.
Yes you will be tired, it's like having a baby for the first few weeks. You will be tired for the next few weeks I'm afraid, but it will be worth it in the end.
Most important, don't give him any attention if he's making a noise, just ignore. Then as I say, when he's sleepomg go wake him up, outside for 5, back to bed. No fuss.
Also this always works for me: take the t shirt you have been wearing that day and put it in his crate with him, the smell of you will really help him settle.
Start tonight before it's too late!
Good luck, it will seem like a long journey but you will get there.
First of all get him in a crate, this helps loads as they learn to hold on as they don't like messing in their bed.
If I were you, my routine would be go to bed, let him howl etc, he will eventually go to sleep. You have to ignore him, he will make some horrible noises and it's very distressing to listen to but you have to ignore it. Then I would be letting him outside three times a night for the first week. Second week drop it to two times a night. Then drop it to once a night. And then eventually you won't need to get up at all.
Yes you will be tired, it's like having a baby for the first few weeks. You will be tired for the next few weeks I'm afraid, but it will be worth it in the end.
Most important, don't give him any attention if he's making a noise, just ignore. Then as I say, when he's sleepomg go wake him up, outside for 5, back to bed. No fuss.
Also this always works for me: take the t shirt you have been wearing that day and put it in his crate with him, the smell of you will really help him settle.
Start tonight before it's too late!
Good luck, it will seem like a long journey but you will get there.
This to a T! Those first few weeks were bloody hard work but worth it in the end! CaptainMorgan said:
Wheat said:
I'm no expert but I have had several puppy's and they all cried at night!
First of all get him in a crate, this helps loads as they learn to hold on as they don't like messing in their bed.
If I were you, my routine would be go to bed, let him howl etc, he will eventually go to sleep. You have to ignore him, he will make some horrible noises and it's very distressing to listen to but you have to ignore it. Then I would be letting him outside three times a night for the first week. Second week drop it to two times a night. Then drop it to once a night. And then eventually you won't need to get up at all.
Yes you will be tired, it's like having a baby for the first few weeks. You will be tired for the next few weeks I'm afraid, but it will be worth it in the end.
Most important, don't give him any attention if he's making a noise, just ignore. Then as I say, when he's sleepomg go wake him up, outside for 5, back to bed. No fuss.
Also this always works for me: take the t shirt you have been wearing that day and put it in his crate with him, the smell of you will really help him settle.
Start tonight before it's too late!
Good luck, it will seem like a long journey but you will get there.
First of all get him in a crate, this helps loads as they learn to hold on as they don't like messing in their bed.
If I were you, my routine would be go to bed, let him howl etc, he will eventually go to sleep. You have to ignore him, he will make some horrible noises and it's very distressing to listen to but you have to ignore it. Then I would be letting him outside three times a night for the first week. Second week drop it to two times a night. Then drop it to once a night. And then eventually you won't need to get up at all.
Yes you will be tired, it's like having a baby for the first few weeks. You will be tired for the next few weeks I'm afraid, but it will be worth it in the end.
Most important, don't give him any attention if he's making a noise, just ignore. Then as I say, when he's sleepomg go wake him up, outside for 5, back to bed. No fuss.
Also this always works for me: take the t shirt you have been wearing that day and put it in his crate with him, the smell of you will really help him settle.
Start tonight before it's too late!
Good luck, it will seem like a long journey but you will get there.
This to a T! Those first few weeks were bloody hard work but worth it in the end! 
)I overcame any problems like this back in 1995 by getting two pups from the same litter. The first morning there was a lot of crap to clear up, but after that they got used to their new life and of course were always keeping each other company.
One added advantage to getting two puppies was that they tended to chew each other rather than the furniture...
Is it too late to get him a partner?
Well put him to bed last night after having a wee and a s
t and an hour later he was whining. Got up as i was still awake in bed and he'd had a little wee but still took him out giving as little attention as possible. Quick stroke on the head to let him know i still love him and off to bed i go, listening to faint whining downstairs. Alarm goes off at half 1 and i go down and hes had a poo but again let him out, again not giving much attention, howling last about an hour then he stops. The mrs was meant to get up at 4 to let him out but she didnt wake up so i was expecting lots of st and wee everywhere... Went down at half 6 and nothing on the floor and hes snuggled up in his bed!! Woohoo. Did his morning buisness in the garden to lots of praise and well dones!
Think ill be sticking to this plan as this is the way my dog at the parents house lives and hes been just fine. Don't really fancy a crate as id rather he piss on the floor instead of trying to hold it in.. Will only get better as he gets older and can hold for longer.
t and an hour later he was whining. Got up as i was still awake in bed and he'd had a little wee but still took him out giving as little attention as possible. Quick stroke on the head to let him know i still love him and off to bed i go, listening to faint whining downstairs. Alarm goes off at half 1 and i go down and hes had a poo but again let him out, again not giving much attention, howling last about an hour then he stops. The mrs was meant to get up at 4 to let him out but she didnt wake up so i was expecting lots of st and wee everywhere... Went down at half 6 and nothing on the floor and hes snuggled up in his bed!! Woohoo. Did his morning buisness in the garden to lots of praise and well dones!Think ill be sticking to this plan as this is the way my dog at the parents house lives and hes been just fine. Don't really fancy a crate as id rather he piss on the floor instead of trying to hold it in.. Will only get better as he gets older and can hold for longer.
rs1952 said:
The basic problem is that dogs are social animals that live in groups and he isn't living in a group. In a nutshell, he wants his group (or his mum )
I overcame any problems like this back in 1995 by getting two pups from the same litter. The first morning there was a lot of crap to clear up, but after that they got used to their new life and of course were always keeping each other company.
One added advantage to getting two puppies was that they tended to chew each other rather than the furniture...
Is it too late to get him a partner?
This is spot on. He expects to sleep with the pack and you are excluding him. )I overcame any problems like this back in 1995 by getting two pups from the same litter. The first morning there was a lot of crap to clear up, but after that they got used to their new life and of course were always keeping each other company.
One added advantage to getting two puppies was that they tended to chew each other rather than the furniture...
Is it too late to get him a partner?
But he will get used to sleeping on his own. Give in now and let him upstairs as an example and it will be even harder when you the try and make him sleep downstairs.
Having just gone through the ordeal of raising a puppy I really do think a crate and some puppy pads are the way forward. The crate gives them somewhere safe to sleep and they'll go to the toilet on the pad if they really need to. They also learn very quickly to associate the crate with sleeping / chewing / relaxing etc.
Learning to ignore them though is one of the most important things you can do as they work out so quickly just how to get your attention.
It might sound obvious but I'd also suggest doing all you can to tire them out each evening.
Having just gone through the ordeal of raising a puppy I really do think a crate and some puppy pads are the way forward. The crate gives them somewhere safe to sleep and they'll go to the toilet on the pad if they really need to. They also learn very quickly to associate the crate with sleeping / chewing / relaxing etc.
Learning to ignore them though is one of the most important things you can do as they work out so quickly just how to get your attention.
It might sound obvious but I'd also suggest doing all you can to tire them out each evening.
Many, many moons ago an old boy I knew swore by putting a (clockwork) clock under a hot water bottle and wrapping them both in a towel.
His logic being the clock represented the mothers heartbeat and the warmth of the bottle her body heat.
Never tried it myself - but it kind of makes sense.
I used to take our pup out for a 'walk' round the garden and then she went to bed. I was very lucky that I never got disturbed again.
His logic being the clock represented the mothers heartbeat and the warmth of the bottle her body heat.
Never tried it myself - but it kind of makes sense.
I used to take our pup out for a 'walk' round the garden and then she went to bed. I was very lucky that I never got disturbed again.
Mine is 4.5 years old now but mine started off like yours. Had her bed and toys but would cry when we left her and often pee. After about a year a trainer said had we tried her with a crate? Said no she just has her bed and the kitchen/ dining room. She said try giving her a crate so rather than splash £50 on a large crate I brought a massive cardboard box home from work tipped it on its side and put her bed in that so effectively a crate but with an open front. It was like having a new dog. From the first day with it no crying no peeing just a happy dog with her own little den.
Have since upgraded to a kinda travel kennel thing and she is happy with that. Even if we go on holiday it packs flat in the car and she is then happy in wherever we stay.
Also I see you feel a bit bad about making the dog hold it in a crate but it's not just about holding it. It means that they hold it and when you do let them out to pee you are there to praise so they learn a lot quicker that pee outside means treat.
Was blummin hard trying to do it the "nice" way for over a year when you talk to people who have crated and they say about the dog being house trained in 1-2 weeks
The next dog will deffo be crated from the off.
Have since upgraded to a kinda travel kennel thing and she is happy with that. Even if we go on holiday it packs flat in the car and she is then happy in wherever we stay.
Also I see you feel a bit bad about making the dog hold it in a crate but it's not just about holding it. It means that they hold it and when you do let them out to pee you are there to praise so they learn a lot quicker that pee outside means treat.
Was blummin hard trying to do it the "nice" way for over a year when you talk to people who have crated and they say about the dog being house trained in 1-2 weeks
The next dog will deffo be crated from the off.
Well first night without any accidents! And he let us have some sleep!! Let him out at half1ish and then woke up about 6! Had a little excited wee when my girlfriend got up but i think ill see how he gets on without the crate. I have bought one because hes going on the road with me today to my office and suppliers. Even okayish with the collar and lead i bought last night but this is just to take him round the office car park for a wee as hes not had all his jabs. Overall really pleased with how hes coming along!
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