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Fokker said:
Good info there. I would say that your car being a CS is worth more like 110k as JZM sold theirs at 109k. Just make sure that they'll pay out on market value not on just the agreed valuation.
Admiral will only pay up to list. Like most insurers who won t do agreed value over list on a car under 1 yr old. We had this issue with the GT3s, previously mentioned.Edited by Fokker on Tuesday 24th November 22:18
Steve Rance said:
Bump.. The GT4 does have a dry sump engine doesn't it???
it seems the clubsport does have a true dry sump although the road car does not. And the clubsport still has strut rear suspension despite Autocar/evo going on about Cup rear suspension. A friend is interested in it and has the brochure, have asked him to send it over..
I made it quite clear on the phone that the GT4 is worth in excess of £100000,however i'll check the small print tomorrow and give them a phone,if there's no luck on clarification of insurance value i will exercise the cool off period and cancel.Bear in mind this was done in the OPC on pickup as an emergency!
Thanks for the helpful info
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Thanks for the helpful info
.Fokker said:
There has been much talk on here about settings and what is generally best suited to avoid understeer so thats what I would like to discuss.
What have people generally gone for?
The standard ARB middle setting front and rear produces slight understeer with normal fast driving but is very confidence inspiring and makes it easy to approach the limits. It would also probably be the quickest if you have sufficient skill and knowledge of the road because you could brake deeper into a corner without oversteer, and having used the forward weight transfer to rotate the car and avoid understeer on exit you could use more throttle without breaking traction.What have people generally gone for?
There aren't many roads I know that well and I like to leave a margin for error so I don't go into corners that hard, and I enjoy a bit of oversteer on the way out. I also like a car to feel really neutral, agile and throttle adjustable with normal fast driving. That left three options: stiff rear, soft front or both. I found the ride in the standard damper setting fractionally too soft for intimate connection to the road and instant response so decided to go stiff rear. For my style of driving this transformed the car, making it totally neutral and much more lively with lighter, more responsive steering. Ravon posted that he and a pro racer who drove his car found this setting excellent on track and that it allowed long neutral drifts.
I haven't tried the full oversteer option of stiff rear and soft front but I suspect I would find it confidence sapping on corner entry. However it would be interesting to find out whether the fun of easier oversteer on exit more than compensates for the reduction in traction. Has anyone tried?
av185 said:
Admiral will only pay up to list. Like most insurers who won t do agreed value over list on a car under 1 yr old. We had this issue with the GT3s, previously mentioned.
Ok but the categorically told me that they pay market value and account for the options so they would differentiate between a non CS car and a CS car. Taffy check it out and let me know what they tell you as it's important stuff! Cheers av185 for the info.
turbofreeFLAT6 said:
The standard ARB middle setting front and rear produces slight understeer with normal fast driving but is very confidence inspiring and makes it easy to approach the limits. It would also probably be the quickest if you have sufficient skill and knowledge of the road because you could brake deeper into a corner without oversteer, and having used the forward weight transfer to rotate the car and avoid understeer on exit you could use more throttle without breaking traction.
There aren't many roads I know that well and I like to leave a margin for error so I don't go into corners that hard, and I enjoy a bit of oversteer on the way out. I also like a car to feel really neutral, agile and throttle adjustable with normal fast driving. That left three options: stiff rear, soft front or both. I found the ride in the standard damper setting fractionally too soft for intimate connection to the road and instant response so decided to go stiff rear. For my style of driving this transformed the car, making it totally neutral and much more lively with lighter, more responsive steering. Ravon posted that he and a pro racer who drove his car found this setting excellent on track and that it allowed long neutral drifts.
I haven't tried the full oversteer option of stiff rear and soft front but I suspect I would find it confidence sapping on corner entry. However it would be interesting to find out whether the fun of easier oversteer on exit more than compensates for the reduction in traction. Has anyone tried?
Good to hear other people experiences. Most of the roads I drive I know very well here in Wales and have been driving them for 20 years so your reference to middle front and rear is where I'll start. There aren't many roads I know that well and I like to leave a margin for error so I don't go into corners that hard, and I enjoy a bit of oversteer on the way out. I also like a car to feel really neutral, agile and throttle adjustable with normal fast driving. That left three options: stiff rear, soft front or both. I found the ride in the standard damper setting fractionally too soft for intimate connection to the road and instant response so decided to go stiff rear. For my style of driving this transformed the car, making it totally neutral and much more lively with lighter, more responsive steering. Ravon posted that he and a pro racer who drove his car found this setting excellent on track and that it allowed long neutral drifts.
I haven't tried the full oversteer option of stiff rear and soft front but I suspect I would find it confidence sapping on corner entry. However it would be interesting to find out whether the fun of easier oversteer on exit more than compensates for the reduction in traction. Has anyone tried?
Elvorfin said:
Stunters said:
Anyone on here about to take delivery of a GT4 from OPC Tewkesbury? They currently have 3 in the showroom (Sapphire, Yellow, White)...
That's interesting I thought that they only has four cars coming and I was under the impression that they had already delivered 2.
Fokker said:
Good to hear other people experiences. Most of the roads I drive I know very well here in Wales and have been driving them for 20 years so your reference to middle front and rear is where I'll start.
see that's why forums are a bit daft, I did say that's where to start it's the recommended settings which YOU asked for ;-) then you tweak the car to how YOU want it !!!you cannot make this s
t up really :-)alass oem set up is dire imo for my driving style anyway and imo the cars not nice at all set up like that and if tracked worse still ;-)
Ravon don't use what's been posted up either, he has moved on from just the rear to hard to a bespoke setup and new geo and full aero.
He does not post these days due to the s
t he took when he was talking about it all. but he is a bloody good driver so our loss.Edited by PorscheGT4 on Wednesday 25th November 09:09
spareparts said:
Any Macan or 911 specced with PCM for new build as of now will be delivered with the new PCM4/AirPlay-equipped version. PCM4 is future proofed by leveraging iOS apps.
Do the 2016 GT4 builds come with PCM4? If so, it would be silly to not spec it on a 75-80k new car.
That would indeed be a nice addition!Do the 2016 GT4 builds come with PCM4? If so, it would be silly to not spec it on a 75-80k new car.
PorscheGT4 said:
interesting words, but you are still going with my 1st post recommended settings in the end lol which you poo pooed :-P
As I said you cannot make this st up, enjoy the car (with understeer) :-p
Thats because no one listens to you and you sad little world Kenny! As I said you cannot make this s
t up, enjoy the car (with understeer) :-pYou do seem very resilient through considering the continued bashing you get. We should stamp MB Games on your forehead and market you to Toys R Us...
Fokker said:
av185 said:
Admiral will only pay up to list. Like most insurers who won t do agreed value over list on a car under 1 yr old. We had this issue with the GT3s, previously mentioned.
Ok but the categorically told me that they pay market value and account for the options so they would differentiate between a non CS car and a CS car. Taffy check it out and let me know what they tell you as it's important stuff! Cheers av185 for the info.
It was a waste of time on my behalf to mention £100000 as they ignore this and will only pay out the true market value even if its £120000 or more.They also do not differentiate between cars less than a year old and have no new car replacement policy on cars less than a year old.
Overall i'm satisfied as if my GT4 increases in value its covered and i don't have the hassle of having to constantly update an agreed value.
Taffy66 said:
Just got off the phone with Admiral,the girl i spoke to has categorically stated that in the event of a total write-off they will pay the full market value of the car at time of accident.They do not take into consideration the list price,price of options or any form of agreed value when policy was taken out.
It was a waste of time on my behalf to mention £100000 as they ignore this and will only pay out the true market value even if its £120000 or more.They also do not differentiate between cars less than a year old and have no new car replacement policy on cars less than a year old.
Overall i'm satisfied as if my GT4 increases in value its covered and i don't have the hassle of having to constantly update an agreed value.
Excellent news.. well thats me with Admiral as well then. Cheers TaffyIt was a waste of time on my behalf to mention £100000 as they ignore this and will only pay out the true market value even if its £120000 or more.They also do not differentiate between cars less than a year old and have no new car replacement policy on cars less than a year old.
Overall i'm satisfied as if my GT4 increases in value its covered and i don't have the hassle of having to constantly update an agreed value.
Taffy66 said:
Just got off the phone with Admiral,the girl i spoke to has categorically stated that in the event of a total write-off they will pay the full market value of the car at time of accident.They do not take into consideration the list price,price of options or any form of agreed value when policy was taken out.
It was a waste of time on my behalf to mention £100000 as they ignore this and will only pay out the true market value even if its £120000 or more.They also do not differentiate between cars less than a year old and have no new car replacement policy on cars less than a year old.
Overall i'm satisfied as if my GT4 increases in value its covered and i don't have the hassle of having to constantly update an agreed value.
Excellent!It was a waste of time on my behalf to mention £100000 as they ignore this and will only pay out the true market value even if its £120000 or more.They also do not differentiate between cars less than a year old and have no new car replacement policy on cars less than a year old.
Overall i'm satisfied as if my GT4 increases in value its covered and i don't have the hassle of having to constantly update an agreed value.
Admiral it is.
Fokker said:
Thats because no one listens to you and you sad little world Kenny!
My advice is sound and I don't bullst ;-) I also don't suffer fools.You will see when I post and ask questions from bull s
tters , people tend to then switch over to personal abuse as a get out, that's forums for you.Ravon got hassle and stopped posting, as I say a great loss as he was tracking a GT4 while every one was still waiting for cars to arrive.
Stunters said:
Elvorfin said:
Stunters said:
Anyone on here about to take delivery of a GT4 from OPC Tewkesbury? They currently have 3 in the showroom (Sapphire, Yellow, White)...
That's interesting I thought that they only has four cars coming and I was under the impression that they had already delivered 2.m33ufo said:
itsybitsy said:
Sorry I left out the 'not' worry!
Any way I specd CD-R + and not PCM which gives sound plus ,USB and DAB for £1k! Had PCM in my spyder never used it so won't miss it!
That's probably what I would do given the opportunity to revisit.Any way I specd CD-R + and not PCM which gives sound plus ,USB and DAB for £1k! Had PCM in my spyder never used it so won't miss it!
PCM (£2141), Sound package plus (£396), DAB (£324) + phone prep(£446) = £3307
So Navigation costs you an additional £1809 , which seems a hell of a lot.
What else does PCM give you??
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