Network PVR?

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Doofus

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25,777 posts

173 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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I don't know if I've just invented this, I doubt it...

What are my options for recording TV to a NAS, or a networked PVR so recordings can be watched on any smart telly in the house?


Happy Jim

967 posts

239 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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Slingbox - not only watch it round the house on smart tellies & iPads etc, you can also watch stuff from anywhere you can get wifi access ;-)

Jim

FlossyThePig

4,083 posts

243 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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Happy Jim said:
Slingbox
Does it record?

ASK1974

254 posts

132 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Doofus said:
I don't know if I've just invented this, I doubt it...

What are my options for recording TV to a NAS, or a networked PVR so recordings can be watched on any smart telly in the house?
Let's just say that whilst possible, albeit at reduced quality, the ball ache and time this would involve is collosal. What options? Very few. You can't record from the primary HDMI output of a Freesat, Freeview, Sky or Virgin receiver so you'd have to use a lower quality analogue one, you'd have to use a PC to encode the video from Analogue to digital and into a usable (Streaming) format and the whole process from setting a recording to getting to the NAS would be manual - no use of TV guides to set recording etc... Drop it.

All broadcast TV platforms (Freeview, Freesat etc.) have PVRs available but Smart TVs can't stream from the set top boxes, you need one box for each TV or, as our industry recommends, an (HDMI) video distribution system so you can access one or more set top boxes from each TV.

Edited by ASK1974 on Monday 27th October 06:24

Doofus

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25,777 posts

173 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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OK, that's a detailed (if slightly incomprehensible) answer smile

It sounds like its beyond me, and too much hassle. I guess I'm better off getting another PVR so the wife can have one, and I can have the other.

probedb

824 posts

219 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Doofus said:
I don't know if I've just invented this, I doubt it...

What are my options for recording TV to a NAS, or a networked PVR so recordings can be watched on any smart telly in the house?
Pretty sure the Humax recorders have DLNA servers built in so you can stream from them? If not the custom firmware available certainly can.

marctwo

3,666 posts

260 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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You could build a PC to act as a media server and fit it with a number of TV tuners. You can set it to record stuff and then play back on Smart TVs around the house.

I have a Humax HDR Fox-T2 PVR which is loaded with custom firmware which allows it to decrypt the recordings. It's shared across the network and the content can be played back on any device supporting DNLA. I can also transfer the recordings off it onto my media server for archiving. Whilst it's old, I still think (with the custom firmware) it's the best Freeview PVR available.

Bullett

10,879 posts

184 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Lots of options if you want to do it yourself. TV Headend and Myth TV and I think xbmc has an option now as well, there are others.

You'll need a PC to run the satellite receiver card dual/quad/oct whatever and the software and some time. Basically you centralise the receiver and storage then run local clients for actual playback (a pi for example). You can program and set recording from any client or watch live TV and playback those recording on any client. Obviously not sky compatible but any of the free channels sat or aerial should be fine or you could combine freeview and freesat in the same box.

Looking into this myself but haven't been able to justify the cost of a receiver card as yet.

Happy Jim

967 posts

239 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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My Sat receiver (freesat) is a Echostar unit, Slingbox enabled, watch stuff, watch stuff with pause, record stuff, stream live stuff, stream recorded stuff.

Rgds

Jim

Doofus

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25,777 posts

173 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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marctwo said:
You could build a PC to act as a media server and fit it with a number of TV tuners. You can set it to record stuff and then play back on Smart TVs around the house.

I have a Humax HDR Fox-T2 PVR which is loaded with custom firmware which allows it to decrypt the recordings. It's shared across the network and the content can be played back on any device supporting DNLA. I can also transfer the recordings off it onto my media server for archiving. Whilst it's old, I still think (with the custom firmware) it's the best Freeview PVR available.
That's the PVR I've got too. I guess that means I'm going to have to immerse myself in that "my hummy" forum to learn about firmware...

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marctwo

3,666 posts

260 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Doofus said:
That's the PVR I've got too. I guess that means I'm going to have to immerse myself in that "my hummy" forum to learn about firmware...

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Cheer up, this is good news. It's really simple to install and quite brilliant to use.

http://hummy.tv/forum/threads/custom-firmware-vide...

allgonepetetong

1,188 posts

219 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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I have 2 Sky+ HD boxes in different rooms both connected to my LAN. I have often wondered what the reason is and why I cannot watch programmes recorded on each box from the other.

Must be possible, shirley?

marctwo

3,666 posts

260 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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allgonepetetong said:
I have often wondered what the reason is and why I cannot watch programmes recorded on each box from the other.
Because Sky.

Mr_Yogi

3,278 posts

255 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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allgonepetetong said:
I have 2 Sky+ HD boxes in different rooms both connected to my LAN. I have often wondered what the reason is and why I cannot watch programmes recorded on each box from the other.

Must be possible, shirley?
That is the reason when I dropped Sky I built my own HTPC around MediaPortal.

One PC with a Freeview HD card and large HD under the telly in the lounge. Despite being only a dual tuner card it can record 10+ channels at once, providing they are on the same 2 Mux's. Any PC or HTPC in the house can watch anything that has been recorded or live TV. Full EPG 2 weeks in advance, series link etc. just like a regular PVR. And the best thing is MediaPortal is free.

allgonepetetong

1,188 posts

219 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Can you record the football on Sky Sports though?

FlossyThePig

4,083 posts

243 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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allgonepetetong said:
Can you record the football on Sky Sports though?
Hopefully not!

TEKNOPUG

18,921 posts

205 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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allgonepetetong said:
I have 2 Sky+ HD boxes in different rooms both connected to my LAN. I have often wondered what the reason is and why I cannot watch programmes recorded on each box from the other.

Must be possible, shirley?
Virgn Tivo have the same feature. And it does work.

HOWEVER.....or some reason they have only managed to licence minimal TV channels - like Discovery and Quest. None of the main channels you'd actually want to watch have given them permission (or they haven't offered to pay them enough) to allow them to stream their shows.

So when I had a pair of Tivo's boxes, I could record Top Gear on BBC2 on a box in the bedroom, unplug it, carry it to the living room and plug it into the TV there and watched the recorded episode. What I couldn't do, was record Top Gear on BBC2 on a box in the bedroom and then stream it to the box in the living room and watch it there.... wobble

The Tivo boxes actually contain all the architecture in order to meet the OP's requirement's to record live TV and stream. Most of the functionality is turned off by Virgin or unlicensed in their boxes though. So you could use a non-Virgin Tivo PVR as a solution. But in order to receive Virgin Cable, you need to use one of their boxes without all the functionality. No doubt you can get hacked boxes though.