Mossie coming over for the 2015 Airshow Season??

Mossie coming over for the 2015 Airshow Season??

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onyx39

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11,109 posts

149 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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http://www.otsnews.co.uk/mosquito-for-2015-air-sho...

Not sure of their source (clearly a magazine clipping), but I'm excited non the less!

bluey1905

247 posts

196 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Really hope this happens. The Lancaster was fantastic, but at least we have a flying example over here, this will be something special. As a side note, it's amazing how many planes used the Merlin engine, how different the war could have been if it wasn't as good as it was!

Eric Mc

121,776 posts

264 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Who owns this Mosquito at the moment? It sounds like Jerry Yagen's example - which he had put up for sale.

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

183 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Speculative reporting of the worst kind. The chances of a privately owned 'warbird' operating with the BBMF are about the square root of damn all.

Eric Mc

121,776 posts

264 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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The report was extremely vague - wan't it. They obviously fished around on the internet for a colour photo and found that well known shot of the Norwegian example.

Hooli

32,278 posts

199 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
The chances of a privately owned 'warbird' operating with the BBMF are about the square root of damn all.
Wasn't that exactly what happened this year with VeRA? she's privately owned isn't she?

ecsrobin

17,019 posts

164 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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I've heard that the millenium falcon currently at greenham common will be displaying with BBMF next season so I doubt they're will be space in the hangar for a mossie as well.

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

183 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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The Canadian Heritage Museum was originally a private ventue but is now sponsored by the Canadian government; the visit to UK was therfore 'official'. Furthermore the Lancaster crew are a mixture of serving and ex Canadian Air Force. The PDA (Public Display Authorisation) was subject to them operating to RAF rules after having gained approval by the RAF supervisory chain.

The BBMF are not in the business of "displays", they are in the business of preserving the RAF's WW2 Heritage and they are subject to extremely strict rules of flying authorisation and flying supervision. The average warbird operation would never meet these requirements.


Eric Mc

121,776 posts

264 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Maybe they should consider buying one of the two airworthy Mosquitoes. The Mossie was a key RAF aircraft in WW2 and would be ideal for BBMF operations.

onyx39

Original Poster:

11,109 posts

149 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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What happened to the one that used to fly the U.K. air show circuit and crashed? Totally destroyed or sitting in a hangar somewhere in bits?

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

183 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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It was totally destroyed in the crash.

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/dft...

Edited by Ginetta G15 Girl on Monday 27th October 12:54

ecsrobin

17,019 posts

164 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
The Canadian Heritage Museum was originally a private ventue but is now sponsored by the Canadian government; the visit to UK was therfore 'official'. Furthermore the Lancaster crew are a mixture of serving and ex Canadian Air Force. The PDA (Public Display Authorisation) was subject to them operating to RAF rules after having gained approval by the RAF supervisory chain.

The BBMF are not in the business of "displays", they are in the business of preserving the RAF's WW2 Heritage and they are subject to extremely strict rules of flying authorisation and flying supervision. The average warbird operation would never meet these requirements.
It also always displayed with a member of the BBMF flight crew on board as part of that requirement.

However what is allowed is the occasional display with the BBMF, this can be seen for instance at Bournemouth on the Sunday when both spits were U/S the ex BBMF Rolls Royce spitfire filled in and formed up with the lancaster for its display.

This has also been seen at Goodwood Revival when they have a mass spitfire formation BBMF will form up with civilian aircraft. IIRC the only stipulation is that BbMF take the lead.

Yertis

18,015 posts

265 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
The BBMF are not in the business of "displays"...
If that's the case they may as well be grounded.

7mike

3,005 posts

192 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Yertis said:
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
The BBMF are not in the business of "displays"...
If that's the case they may as well be grounded.
confused Their website seems to think they are:

http://www.raf.mod.uk/bbmf/displayinfo/

Yertis

18,015 posts

265 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Eric Mc said:
Maybe they should consider buying one of the two airworthy Mosquitoes. The Mossie was a key RAF aircraft in WW2 and would be ideal for BBMF operations.
I completely agree, it's the one really iconic, important type they don't have.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

260 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Yertis said:
Eric Mc said:
Maybe they should consider buying one of the two airworthy Mosquitoes. The Mossie was a key RAF aircraft in WW2 and would be ideal for BBMF operations.
I completely agree, it's the one really iconic, important type they don't have.
I think this is the point where the thread changes direction and the fur starts to fly............

Squawk1066

2,939 posts

170 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Hooli said:
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
The chances of a privately owned 'warbird' operating with the BBMF are about the square root of damn all.
Wasn't that exactly what happened this year with VeRA? she's privately owned isn't she?
How did they get around flying with the Vulcan?

aeropilot

34,297 posts

226 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Yertis said:
Eric Mc said:
Maybe they should consider buying one of the two airworthy Mosquitoes. The Mossie was a key RAF aircraft in WW2 and would be ideal for BBMF operations.
I completely agree, it's the one really iconic, important type they don't have.
They were only 3-4 months away from having a Mosquito as well.


aeropilot

34,297 posts

226 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Speculative reporting of the worst kind.
Indeed, makes you weep.

If Jerry's Mossie came over, it would likely operate out of Duxford via TFC/ARCo etc., as established links there already.
I can't see Jerry bringing the Mossie over at all tbh, and Bob Jens is very unlikely to bring over his.





williamp

19,213 posts

272 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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If we cannot get a Mosquito, what flying aircraft would you like to see displaying in the Uk?

Can i start with an F4 Phantom and MiG 25 please