Lease guesstimate?

Lease guesstimate?

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twoblacklines

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

161 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Whilst I was in Ocean BMW yesturday picking up an exhaust cam position sensor and O-ring (a cool £101!!) I was looking at a Sakir Orange M4 Convertible. Quite impressed.

A pleasant sales gentleman asked me if I could see myself driving one and if I liked the colour - more of a blue fan really, and I don't have £75k handy in liquid assets either.

But it got me to thinking about lease options.

I wondered if anyone has an idea of what the following would cost to lease? 3 year lease, 10k per year, etc

Model
BMW M4 Coupé

317 kW [437 hp]
Benefit in kind 31% [1]
Combined consumption 34.0 mpg [1]
CO₂ emission 194.0 g/km [1]

Transmission
Change transmission

Seven-speed Double Clutch Transmission (M DCT) w/ DRIVELOGIC
Exterior

Price [2]

Tanzanite Blue
£ 950.00
Change exterior colour
19" M Double- spoke style 437M alloy wheels with mixed tyres
included
Change wheels
Interior

Price [2]

Sonoma Beige Full Merino Leather
£ 1,330.00
Change upholstery
Aluminium Blade interior trim
£ 300.00
Change interior trim
Interior trim finishers - Black Chrome
included
Change trim finisher
Packages

Price [2]

Active Security package
£ 855.00
Change package
Package components
Lane change warning system
included
Details
Dynamic Safety
included
Details
Driving Assistant
included
Details
Price Active Security package
£ 855.00

Price [2]

Advanced Parking package
£ 545.00
Change package
Package components
Reversing Assist camera
included
Details
Park Assist
included
Details
Price Advanced Parking package
£ 545.00
Optional equipment
Communication

Change optional equipment

Price [2]

Internet
£ 95.00
Details
Loudspeaker system - harman/kardon surround sound
£ 675.00
Details
Online Entertainment
£ 190.00
Details
Exterior Equipment

Change optional equipment
Electric Glass Sunroof
included
Details
Sun protection glass
£ 265.00
Details
Interior Equipment

Change optional equipment
Armrest, front with sliding adjustment
£ 140.00
Details
Extended storage
£ 155.00
Details
Steering wheel heating
£ 155.00
Details
Safety & Security

Change optional equipment
Adaptive LED Headlights
£ 1,600.00
Details
High-beam Assistant
included
Details
M Carbon ceramic brakes
£ 6,250.00
Details
Technology

Change optional equipment
Speed limit display
£ 220.00
Details
Transmission

Change optional equipment
Seven-speed Double Clutch Transmission (M DCT) w/ DRIVELOGIC
£ 2,645.00
Details
Price overview
Price

Price [2]
Vehicle price (excl. on the road costs)


£ 46,029.17
Optional equipment price


£ 13,641.67
VAT 20%


£ 11,934.17
On the road cash price


£ 72,860.00

Thank you!

HoHoHo

14,987 posts

250 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Do you mean contract hire or lease purchase?

pattyg

1,330 posts

227 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Does it have Head up display? - its a must have.

Lozw86

872 posts

132 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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What kind of deposit would you be willing to put down? This will effect the monthlies

Zyp

14,694 posts

189 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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On a £61k M3 it'd cost you over £800 pm, 6 month upfront.
Add in maintenance at approx £30 pm.

I'm assuming an M4 wouldn't be too different.

twoblacklines

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

161 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Is that a standard spec M3 or with the spec I listed?

I ask here because when you list spec on the actual lease companies sites, it is very confusing to do so and the prices seem a lot higher than they should be.

I didn't put heads up display not really sure I would use it? And if it doesn't sit level on the screen it will annoy the hell out of me!

twoblacklines

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

161 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Lozw86 said:
What kind of deposit would you be willing to put down? This will effect the monthlies
around 6k. 2 year lease ie I pick up the car, do upto 10k miles per year then after 24 months I give it back and get a new contract.

Another question, as I own a company can I lease it through that before paying income tax, and how does it affect using it for personal mileage? I do about 80/20 personal/business mileage.

HoHoHo

14,987 posts

250 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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twoblacklines said:
Lozw86 said:
What kind of deposit would you be willing to put down? This will effect the monthlies
around 6k. 2 year lease ie I pick up the car, do upto 10k miles per year then after 24 months I give it back and get a new contract.

Another question, as I own a company can I lease it through that before paying income tax, and how does it affect using it for personal mileage? I do about 80/20 personal/business mileage.
Depending on your financial position you may well find that a personal lease is better than having the M3 as a company car due to the BIK implications?

Snollygoster

1,538 posts

139 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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twoblacklines said:
Is that a standard spec M3 or with the spec I listed?

I ask here because when you list spec on the actual lease companies sites, it is very confusing to do so and the prices seem a lot higher than they should be.

I didn't put heads up display not really sure I would use it? And if it doesn't sit level on the screen it will annoy the hell out of me!
If you're open to mmodel, the M5 is cheaper on a lease, and also has a much bigger standard spec of equipment.

You can get those on a 6 +35 for just over £700 a month or on a 6 + 23 for just over £800.

Wills2

22,785 posts

175 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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I think the car you have specced at 73k would be expensive without some sort of BMW campaign support.

I would think with 6k in over 24 months would be well over £1000 a month and more towards £1200.


Zyp

14,694 posts

189 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Use this site - add all the options you've listed and it'll give you a price.

No guarantee you'll get a car though....

http://carleasingmadesimple.com/business-car-leasi...

James_G

346 posts

184 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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pattyg said:
Does it have Head up display? - its a must have.
Why is the HUD a "must have"? I've never tried one to be fair, but I can't see the point personally.

Zyp

14,694 posts

189 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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I have it, it's a nice to have rather than a must have.

twoblacklines

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

161 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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What is the difference between maintenance and non-maintanence? £250 per month difference on an M4 coupe. I thought the car will not need any maintenance anyway in its first 2-3 years as it is under BMW warranty?

HoHoHo

14,987 posts

250 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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twoblacklines said:
What is the difference between maintenance and non-maintanence? £250 per month difference on an M4 coupe. I thought the car will not need any maintenance anyway in its first 2-3 years as it is under BMW warranty?
Maintenance is different to warranty!

My M5 needs new rear tyres every 10k miles and a service of some description every 15k or so. Brakes etc. as and when.

I'm guessing my car will cost circa £100 PA in maintenance, the warranty will take care of items that break or fail FOC (generally not to include wear and tear!)

Zyp

14,694 posts

189 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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£30 per month for maintenance on the M3.
I think it's well worth having if you do 10k miles per year on a 3 year lease
1200 mile service, at least a couple sets of tyres, probably front brakes - possibly rears and then the normal servicing on top of that lot.

I think on tyres alone you'd almost get your money back - my Spyder has done 16k miles in 3 years, and I've already replaced my rears twice and the fronts once (£500 for rears, £400 fronts)

This in a car that weighs substantially less than the M3.

twoblacklines

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

161 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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It is £250 per MONTH difference on an M4...I can't see a brand new M4 costing that much to service? My 11 year old, 93k e46 doesn't cost £250 a month to service!

Zyp

14,694 posts

189 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Sorry, I don't understand.
Are you saying an M4 with maintenance costs £250 per month more than a similarly priced / specced leased M3?

I can catergorically say that maintenance on a new M3 is £30 per month.
At least that's what I'm paying.

twoblacklines

Original Poster:

1,575 posts

161 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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No I am saying an M4 with maintainance is £250 a month more than an M4 without maintanance.

Zyp

14,694 posts

189 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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twoblacklines said:
No I am saying an M4 with maintainance is £250 a month more than an M4 without maintanance.
Who's quoted you that?

It's clearly wrong!

Eta - I've just looked at that site I linked to earlier - the price does jump from £760 to £898 pm + VAT!
Perhaps I got lucky at £30 pm....

Edited by Zyp on Thursday 30th October 21:23