What's the go-to TV these days now Panny have binned plasma?

What's the go-to TV these days now Panny have binned plasma?

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hornetrider

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63,161 posts

205 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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I have no clue. Going to be shopping for a tv for the new gaff soon - no idea what to go for. Have two mildly ageing Panny plasmas in the house. Is the answer try to get some new old stock Panny GT range??

nightwalker

3,565 posts

187 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Try and buy one of the last VT65s, managed to get one myself and it is absolutely stunning, true blacks smile

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

145 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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As a VT50 owner I'm hoping it keeps going for a good few years to come. Hopefully by then there will be a true replacement for plasma (OLED?).

Cheib

23,245 posts

175 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Not sure which Panny plasma I have but it was the top spec 50" from the second last year of production. Bought a new smaller Panasonic LED screen recently...it's st in comparison.

belleair302

6,843 posts

207 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Sadly the market is ruled today by Samsung, LG, Sony and some excellent Philips TV's.

Panasonic seem to be waiting to see if OLED is the next bog thing but in Japan 8K is on the cards making many 4K screens obsolete because 8K broadcasting is coming in 2016.....both BBC and Sky are very serious about 8K. LED TV's are improving but not quite unto where the plasma's were in 2012/13.

How big a screen and what is your budget?

hornetrider

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63,161 posts

205 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Budget ideally three figures, size less than 50, say 40 upwards.

Found a 42gt50 at superfi for 800, could be a goer. If the Web page isn't out of date!

Blaster72

10,838 posts

197 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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belleair302 said:
Sadly the market is ruled today by Samsung, LG, Sony and some excellent Philips TV's.

Panasonic seem to be waiting to see if OLED is the next bog thing but in Japan 8K is on the cards making many 4K screens obsolete because 8K broadcasting is coming in 2016.....both BBC and Sky are very serious about 8K. LED TV's are improving but not quite unto where the plasma's were in 2012/13.

How big a screen and what is your budget?
Any news on how they intend to broadcast 8k given they can't even deliver 4k over the air?

There are new 4k blu ray players coming but I can't so how anything with more bandwidth than HD can be viable for Sky and the BBC.


davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Blaster72 said:
belleair302 said:
Sadly the market is ruled today by Samsung, LG, Sony and some excellent Philips TV's.

Panasonic seem to be waiting to see if OLED is the next bog thing but in Japan 8K is on the cards making many 4K screens obsolete because 8K broadcasting is coming in 2016.....both BBC and Sky are very serious about 8K. LED TV's are improving but not quite unto where the plasma's were in 2012/13.

How big a screen and what is your budget?
Any news on how they intend to broadcast 8k given they can't even deliver 4k over the air?

There are new 4k blu ray players coming but I can't so how anything with more bandwidth than HD can be viable for Sky and the BBC.
Quite. Each doubling of the resolution results in quadruple the bandwidth. Unless a new compression technology is used an 8k signal uses 16 times as much bandwidth as a conventional 1080p one. I would think they'll go to 4k for a while first.

It's more likely the BT and Virgin will be first to make the jump, solely because they have the cables.

moles

1,794 posts

244 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Are we at the limit of bandwidth then already on terrestrial and sky?.

THX

2,348 posts

122 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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I'm holding out for 16k TV's and 8 blade razors.

Anyone for a treble chocolate chip cookie?

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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The new compression technology is h.265, aka HEVC. That'll help them deliver 4k.

belleair302

6,843 posts

207 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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If the Japanese broadcaster NHK believe that for the 2020 Olympics they can compress the live feed successfully to deliver a high quality image across the nation then 8K will happen in Europe. The technology in compression and bandwidth is changing annually so never say never. Why do Sky and the BBC not deliver more 4K broadcasts and its not because of bandwidth issues nor camera technology?

theboyfold

10,921 posts

226 months

Saturday 8th November 2014
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belleair302 said:
....both BBC and Sky are very serious about 8K.
I'd like to know how you know this...

Blaster72

10,838 posts

197 months

Saturday 8th November 2014
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belleair302 said:
If the Japanese broadcaster NHK believe that for the 2020 Olympics they can compress the live feed successfully to deliver a high quality image across the nation then 8K will happen in Europe. The technology in compression and bandwidth is changing annually so never say never. Why do Sky and the BBC not deliver more 4K broadcasts and its not because of bandwidth issues nor camera technology?
I can't see the point, if you compress it that much you'll end up with a crappy picture anyway (relatively speaking) defeating the purpose of 4K content.

Will enough people actually buy big enough tv sets to make having 4k content worthwhile? HD seems to be pretty good as it is.

mp3manager

4,254 posts

196 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Blaster72 said:
belleair302 said:
If the Japanese broadcaster NHK believe that for the 2020 Olympics they can compress the live feed successfully to deliver a high quality image across the nation then 8K will happen in Europe. The technology in compression and bandwidth is changing annually so never say never. Why do Sky and the BBC not deliver more 4K broadcasts and its not because of bandwidth issues nor camera technology?
I can't see the point, if you compress it that much you'll end up with a crappy picture anyway (relatively speaking) defeating the purpose of 4K content.
If it were lossy compression, you would be right but HEVC uses lossless compression.

Driller

8,310 posts

278 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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THX said:
I'm holding out for 16k TV's and 8 blade razors.

Anyone for a treble chocolate chip cookie?
This and it has to be 4d, curved like a Pringle crisp and have Sonos.

Pit Pony

8,556 posts

121 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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I found my 2002 Pacific CVT TV and asda Freeview box improved when I got new glasses.

hornetrider

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63,161 posts

205 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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It would be nice if this thread was vaguely on topic... hehe

StuH

2,557 posts

273 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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8k is miles away. 4k is mostly pointless for domestic size screens - you need to be up above 80" from a reasonable viewing distance. My 1080p ZT plasma craps all over current 4k models because resolution after a certain point is far less important than black levels, contrast and dynamic range.

giger

732 posts

194 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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In my eyes it is still Panasonic, until 4K OLED becomes affordable.

I bought my 50" GT60 around march, and it took me ages to find one as I had left it late by then (all manufacturing had stopped by Jan). Chances of finding one in a shop now are slim to none. Back in March every place I had phones had had a dozen or more people that week calling for the same thing, and display sets with hundreds of hours set to 'shop' mode were being sold for full retail such was the demand. Things have calmed down a bit now, so you may get lucky. However my vote would be to get a nearly new one from the classified on the AV Forums. Most Panasonic plasmas were sold with a 5 year (transferable) warranty so that should give you some piece of mind. You might be able to bag yourself a bit of a bargain to boot.