Rich Socialists - do as I say, not as I do
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I always respected Benn, in a grudging way.
But what a
HYPOCRITE!http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance...
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Edited by Big Al. on Wednesday 29th October 17:57
Sorry Soovy, and this is news to you beacause......?
Socialists have always been the same hypocritical no marks who want to spend your money how they see fit with little or no accountability. See green movement for further details on request.
Arthur Scargill, Tony Benn, Tony Blair, Lord Prescott the list goes on and on.
They trade on the utter naivity, and many cases downright stupidity, of the electorate who in many parts of this island nation would vote for a bloody pig if it wore a red rosette.
The Labour party/left wing movement have absolutely no interest in lifting people out of poverty, usual caveats apply to this term, as it would remove them from the political landscape in a generation.
Vested interests, much?
Socialists have always been the same hypocritical no marks who want to spend your money how they see fit with little or no accountability. See green movement for further details on request.
Arthur Scargill, Tony Benn, Tony Blair, Lord Prescott the list goes on and on.
They trade on the utter naivity, and many cases downright stupidity, of the electorate who in many parts of this island nation would vote for a bloody pig if it wore a red rosette.
The Labour party/left wing movement have absolutely no interest in lifting people out of poverty, usual caveats apply to this term, as it would remove them from the political landscape in a generation.
Vested interests, much?
Come off it, this is the least aggressive type of IHT planning, and anyone, anyone who spends half an hour thinking about IHT uses this entirely legitimate method of reducing IHT exposure.
I am not sure the charge of hypocrisy really sticks, as it was a Labour goverment that introduced the legislation that made this permissable.
2/10 must try harder.
Gargamel said:
Come off it, this is the least aggressive type of IHT planning, and anyone, anyone who spends half an hour thinking about IHT uses this entirely legitimate method of reducing IHT exposure.
I am not sure the charge of hypocrisy really sticks, as it was a Labour goverment that introduced the legislation that made this permissable.
2/10 must try harder.
Not any more they don't. No need to. I am not sure the charge of hypocrisy really sticks, as it was a Labour goverment that introduced the legislation that made this permissable.
2/10 must try harder.
As the article says, a spouse's nil band now passes on to the survivor and can be used when he/she passes. The Benn strategy became redundant in 2007.
Benn would have made a little extra gain by passing on some cash in the form of rent, but that would have been taxed as income. Much easier to just gift cash to the kids on a regular basis.
I agree that only a fool wouldn't have planned this way, but there are some on here who seem to think that even using up one's tax free allowance before income tax is tantamount to treason. Unless you are poor, of course.
ellroy said:
Sorry Soovy, and this is news to you beacause......?
Socialists have always been the same hypocritical no marks who want to spend your money how they see fit with little or no accountability. See green movement for further details on request.
Arthur Scargill, Tony Benn, Tony Blair, Lord Prescott the list goes on and on.
They trade on the utter naivity, and many cases downright stupidity, of the electorate who in many parts of this island nation would vote for a bloody pig if it wore a red rosette.
The Labour party/left wing movement have absolutely no interest in lifting people out of poverty, usual caveats apply to this term, as it would remove them from the political landscape in a generation.
Vested interests, much?
All of what you have said is quite true.Socialists have always been the same hypocritical no marks who want to spend your money how they see fit with little or no accountability. See green movement for further details on request.
Arthur Scargill, Tony Benn, Tony Blair, Lord Prescott the list goes on and on.
They trade on the utter naivity, and many cases downright stupidity, of the electorate who in many parts of this island nation would vote for a bloody pig if it wore a red rosette.
The Labour party/left wing movement have absolutely no interest in lifting people out of poverty, usual caveats apply to this term, as it would remove them from the political landscape in a generation.
Vested interests, much?
Gargamel said:
Come off it, this is the least aggressive type of IHT planning, and anyone, anyone who spends half an hour thinking about IHT uses this entirely legitimate method of reducing IHT exposure.
I am not sure the charge of hypocrisy really sticks, as it was a Labour goverment that introduced the legislation that made this permissable.
2/10 must try harder.
Try harder? No problem!I am not sure the charge of hypocrisy really sticks, as it was a Labour goverment that introduced the legislation that made this permissable.
2/10 must try harder.
That nice Mr Hobsbaum left almost his entire £1.8m fortune under a trust. Some will know poor old Frogspawn was mentor to the Ed Milipaed. Brilliant brilliant man...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2537496/Le...
According to records held at the Brighton probate office, Hobsbawm – who joined the Communist Party at 14 and once described himself as an ‘unrepentant communist’ – left an estate with assets totalling £1,835,341.The bulk is to be held in trust, with the income going to his second wife Marlene. The couple were married for 50 years.
It's the Hypocritocracy - it beats me why so many people listen to them. Here's a recent blog post on the matter:
Russell, Vivienne And The Hypocritocracy
Celebritocracy. There’s a word I hadn’t heard until pretty recently. It popped into my consciousness while watching a debate on the BBC’s Daily Politics programme and, to be fair, it does a pretty good job of describing the odd phenomenon by which opinion can be influenced by those who enjoy the trappings of a life in the public eye. It crossed my mind again last week too, when news that Bono had thrown his oar into the debate over whether or not the low level of Irish corporation tax was unfairly weighted in favour of the wealthy elite. Fresh from inflicting his music onto hordes of unsuspecting Apple customers, the self-appointed patron saint of the poor had some hectoring to do on the matter. And we were all going to hear him.
For some time now, I have been baffled as to quite why so many normal people afford so much credence to the half-formed views of thoroughly over-exposed, over-privileged dullards; views that flourish almost entirely within the strange, insulated netherworld these vacuous, grasping quarterwits inhabit. It is especially confusing that so many seem able to ignore that, whilst talking a very good game, the majority of these tedious windbags actually act in a manner completely contrary to that in which they advise the mere mortals existing outwith their pampered bubble (aka: the rest of us) should go about our business.
Surely, if Vivienne Westwood was really dedicated to saving the planet, she would aim her tiresome streams of invective at that which she understands better than most – the fashion industry. After all, how can a trade that does its utmost to persuade us all to replace our wardrobes every season be anything but shamelessly wasteful of resources?
The list goes on: Leonardo DiCaprio, tireless campaigner for the environment, who seemingly racks up more air miles than the average squadron of Royal Air Force jets? Russell Brand, passionate advocate for democratic change, who (in his increasingly worrying television interviews) actively encourages electors to refrain from exercising their hard-won right to vote.
So much easier to posture though, isn’t it – especially when the trickledown effect is so very much in evidence. Witness, if you will, the achingly right-on masses of festival goers gathered beneath the Greenpeace stage at Glastonbury, nodding sagely as the latest bien-pensant musician invites them to stand up against fracking, or whichever idiotic cause-du-jour has just stumbled across their chemically-enhanced thoughts. Witness too, the actual environmental damage they leave in their wake; and the week-long clean-up operation to remove their mountain of rubbish.
That the celebritocracy, immortalised by the great Tom Wolfe as court jesters, is held in such reverence makes me want to weep for our society. That so many allow themselves to be swayed by the narrow opinions peddled so vociferously by this curious little class is depressing beyond words. How can we fail to see through it? Perhaps celebritocracy is the wrong word. Maybe a more accurate title would be a start.
Anyone like Hypocritocracy?
Russell, Vivienne And The Hypocritocracy
Celebritocracy. There’s a word I hadn’t heard until pretty recently. It popped into my consciousness while watching a debate on the BBC’s Daily Politics programme and, to be fair, it does a pretty good job of describing the odd phenomenon by which opinion can be influenced by those who enjoy the trappings of a life in the public eye. It crossed my mind again last week too, when news that Bono had thrown his oar into the debate over whether or not the low level of Irish corporation tax was unfairly weighted in favour of the wealthy elite. Fresh from inflicting his music onto hordes of unsuspecting Apple customers, the self-appointed patron saint of the poor had some hectoring to do on the matter. And we were all going to hear him.
For some time now, I have been baffled as to quite why so many normal people afford so much credence to the half-formed views of thoroughly over-exposed, over-privileged dullards; views that flourish almost entirely within the strange, insulated netherworld these vacuous, grasping quarterwits inhabit. It is especially confusing that so many seem able to ignore that, whilst talking a very good game, the majority of these tedious windbags actually act in a manner completely contrary to that in which they advise the mere mortals existing outwith their pampered bubble (aka: the rest of us) should go about our business.
Surely, if Vivienne Westwood was really dedicated to saving the planet, she would aim her tiresome streams of invective at that which she understands better than most – the fashion industry. After all, how can a trade that does its utmost to persuade us all to replace our wardrobes every season be anything but shamelessly wasteful of resources?
The list goes on: Leonardo DiCaprio, tireless campaigner for the environment, who seemingly racks up more air miles than the average squadron of Royal Air Force jets? Russell Brand, passionate advocate for democratic change, who (in his increasingly worrying television interviews) actively encourages electors to refrain from exercising their hard-won right to vote.
So much easier to posture though, isn’t it – especially when the trickledown effect is so very much in evidence. Witness, if you will, the achingly right-on masses of festival goers gathered beneath the Greenpeace stage at Glastonbury, nodding sagely as the latest bien-pensant musician invites them to stand up against fracking, or whichever idiotic cause-du-jour has just stumbled across their chemically-enhanced thoughts. Witness too, the actual environmental damage they leave in their wake; and the week-long clean-up operation to remove their mountain of rubbish.
That the celebritocracy, immortalised by the great Tom Wolfe as court jesters, is held in such reverence makes me want to weep for our society. That so many allow themselves to be swayed by the narrow opinions peddled so vociferously by this curious little class is depressing beyond words. How can we fail to see through it? Perhaps celebritocracy is the wrong word. Maybe a more accurate title would be a start.
Anyone like Hypocritocracy?
Roy Lime said:
It's the Hypocritocracy - it beats me why so many people listen to them. Here's a recent blog post on the matter:
Russell, Vivienne And The Hypocritocracy
Witness too, the actual environmental damage they leave in their wake; and the week-long clean-up operation to remove their mountain of rubbish.
I can't be bothered to critique the whole thing, but that's lazy journalism right there. The clean up at Glastonbury is carried out by volunteers who get free tickets for their efforts. This is by far the easiest and cheapest way to deal with the rubbish and leaves the site as clean as it is found. If the rest of the blog is as poorly researched as this then it can be safely consigned to the (eco-friendly) bin.Russell, Vivienne And The Hypocritocracy
Witness too, the actual environmental damage they leave in their wake; and the week-long clean-up operation to remove their mountain of rubbish.
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