Could past accident victims have a claim against HMG?

Could past accident victims have a claim against HMG?

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Scubdup

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45 posts

114 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Sorry if this has been done to death, and feel free to castigate if so, but I was just wondering...

The speed limits seem to have been in place and unchanged for years if not decades. All the speeding tickets and other penalties dished out are on the basis that the offenders have driven beyond safe limits.

Today's cars are vastly safer than the cars of the past.

Doesn't that mean there is an inherent implication that, if we must accept that speed limits are currently appropriate, then historically they were set too low?

If that is the case then any victim of an accident where speed contributed to either the cause or the severity of the accident, yet vehicles were within the speed limits, that the authority in charge of setting those limits must bear responsibility for those injuries that occurred or were worsened by the difference in speed between what the limit was, and what it should have been.

Again, apologies if this is inappropriate, not allowed, duplication etc. I joined to discuss it and find out more. I'm not 100% on the rules and regs here.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Scubdup said:
All the speeding tickets and other penalties dished out are on the basis that the offenders have driven beyond safe limits.
And that's your mistake, just there.

Speed limits are legal limits, not safe limits. If they were safe limits, then TPTB would have to effectively guarantee that 60mph is safe and appropriate on every single bit of NSL road. Even the ones with grass growing up the middle and shrubbery twanging both mirrors simultaneously. Even in the pissing wet or thick fog or snow. Clearly, that isn't the case.

Dr Interceptor

7,786 posts

196 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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It's the responsibility of the driver to adapt to road conditions and adjust their speed to a safe limit, which may be well short the of the posted legal limit.

Limits are just that, they are not targets that should be achieved.

Type R Tom

3,864 posts

149 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Nicely sums up what is wrong with this county, it's always someone else's fault!

Dr Interceptor

7,786 posts

196 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Type R Tom said:
Nicely sums up what is wrong with this county, it's always someone else's fault!
It's not just your County, the whole Country is at it.

wink

Scubdup

Original Poster:

45 posts

114 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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What's the purpose of the limit then, if as you say it is not linked to safety?

mwstewart

7,600 posts

188 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Type R Tom said:
Nicely sums up what is wrong with this county, it's always someone else's fault!
Agreed.


Tribal Chestnut

2,997 posts

182 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Scubdup said:
What's the purpose of the limit then, if as you say it is not linked to safety?
Revenue generation and tt appeasement.

(in most instances)

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Scubdup said:
What's the purpose of the limit then, if as you say it is not linked to safety?
It's an upper bound on what a driver can legally decide is a safe and appropriate speed.

It's really not a very hard concept to understand.

John D.

17,845 posts

209 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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No surprise it is currently half term.

Scubdup

Original Poster:

45 posts

114 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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TooMany2cvs said:
It's an upper bound on what a driver can legally decide is a safe and appropriate speed.

It's really not a very hard concept to understand.
The car's speed limit does that. Why have two?

Type R Tom

3,864 posts

149 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Scubdup said:
TooMany2cvs said:
It's an upper bound on what a driver can legally decide is a safe and appropriate speed.

It's really not a very hard concept to understand.
The car's speed limit does that. Why have two?
To be clear, you are saying that a car's physical top speed is the safe speed for roads?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Scubdup said:
TooMany2cvs said:
It's an upper bound on what a driver can legally decide is a safe and appropriate speed.

It's really not a very hard concept to understand.
The car's speed limit does that. Why have two?
You must be a troll. Nobody can be this stupid on their third post.

Kinky

39,556 posts

269 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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John D. said:
No surprise it is currently half term.
And on that highest of high notes smile

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