Tilers - Going rates?

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AndyHCZ

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171 posts

119 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Just getting our garage tiled shortly (72 sqm) and the first quote we've had seems high.

He's quoting £1,600 for 3-4 days work, which seems high to me if you break it down to a daily rate. I'm supply all the materials so looking for labour only.

I normally pay contractors on a daily rate (£150-200) which is a bit higher than normal for our area.

Spudler

3,985 posts

196 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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£22 /M2 is a good rate.
If he's finished in 3-4 days then fair play to him.

Griff Boy

1,563 posts

231 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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AndyHCZ said:
Just getting our garage tiled shortly (72 sqm) and the first quote we've had seems high.

He's quoting £1,600 for 3-4 days work, which seems high to me if you break it down to a daily rate. I'm supply all the materials so looking for labour only.

I normally pay contractors on a daily rate (£150-200) which is a bit higher than normal for our area.
Most self employed tilers normally work on a sqm rate, depending on location! Around me it's the norm to pay £25pm2 for ceramic and £30pm2 for porcelain. So 72m2 would be between £1800-£2250 so your rate of £1600 is not bad.

AndyHCZ

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171 posts

119 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Thanks for the responses.

I wouldn't mind paying those rates for internal work, but an external garage seems like a lot to me.

I've got another couple of quotes tomorrow.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

189 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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AndyHCZ said:
Thanks for the responses.

I wouldn't mind paying those rates for internal work, but an external garage seems like a lot to me.

I've got another couple of quotes tomorrow.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I've always found tiles to be just as much work to stick them down in a garage as it is a kitchen.....

Little Lofty

3,288 posts

151 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Tillers sometimes win and sometimes lose on a metre rate. If he was doing a small bathroom floor of 4 or 5m2 it would take best part of a day and he'd be lucky to make £100, same goes for a kitchen splash back. A big area like a kitchen diner or in your case a garage is a nicer earner. The tiler I use charges me around £20m2 as I give him plenty of work, if he was doing a large area like a double garage he'd probably just charge me a day rate of £150 per day.

AndyHCZ

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Friday 31st October 2014
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northwest monkey said:
Maybe I'm missing something, but I've always found tiles to be just as much work to stick them down in a garage as it is a kitchen.....
I was thinking more along the lines of a kitchen being more intricate and taking more time.


clockworks

5,354 posts

145 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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The guy currently doing my kitchen/diner started out as a tiler, and picked up more skills over time. His quote for labour works out at £150 a day. He has just laid 23 sq metres of porcelain floor tiles in less than 2 days as part of the 4-week build. Quite a tricky floor plan, as it included going into 3 built-in cupboards. All the skirtings and achitraves were removed though, and he spent a further day lifting the old tiles and prepping the floor.

v12bitch

263 posts

152 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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£16 mtr depending where you are not just the mtr but the amount of tricky cuts

037

1,317 posts

147 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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I've seen some truly horrific tiling jobs over the years!
Not sure why it's treated as a job anyone can do! They can't .
Pay your tiler his going rate and I'm sure you will be happy with the finished job.
Scrimp around for a cheaper job and that's what you will get!
Mine charges me £20 and I charge him out at£25 although I supply him 20% of his annual work.
What I don't do is try and get it cheaper when there are big areas m2 to lay.

jason61c

5,978 posts

174 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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You'd be bonkers to pay a tiler £4-500 a day. I'd say more like £125 and based on 4 days, if hes done before then fair enough for him.

paul0843

1,915 posts

207 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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jason61c said:
You'd be bonkers to pay a tiler £4-500 a day. I'd say more like £125 and based on 4 days, if hes done before then fair enough for him.
If your employing him full time £125 a day for a good tradesman is fair.
I think if your just employing him at your convenience,then your in a different ball park.
Anything between £20-£25 m2 is fair for a good tiler..

jonah35

3,940 posts

157 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Oop North I pay £80-100'per day or £10 per hour.


Neil - YVM

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199 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Griff Boy said:
Most self employed tilers normally work on a sqm rate, depending on location! Around me it's the norm to pay £25pm2 for ceramic and £30pm2 for porcelain. So 72m2 would be between £1800-£2250 so your rate of £1600 is not bad.
I charge out my tiler at the same rate, though that includes adhesives and grout?


jason61c

5,978 posts

174 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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paul0843 said:
If your employing him full time £125 a day for a good tradesman is fair.
I think if your just employing him at your convenience,then your in a different ball park.
Anything between £20-£25 m2 is fair for a good tiler..
I understand what you're saying but there's no way you'd give what works out at that sort of day rate to a tiler. If you're that worried, Fit them yourself and pay a day for him to grout them?

AndyHCZ

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171 posts

119 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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I've bought the tiles/adhesive/grout/self leveller.

His price is just labour only, but it actually comes to more than all the materials I've bought.

If this is the going rate, then fine. It just seems high to me for the number of days it will take when I compare to what I pay to my plumber/electrician/builder/decorator etc.

jason61c

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174 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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AndyHCZ said:
I've bought the tiles/adhesive/grout/self leveller.

His price is just labour only, but it actually comes to more than all the materials I've bought.

If this is the going rate, then fine. It just seems high to me for the number of days it will take when I compare to what I pay to my plumber/electrician/builder/decorator etc.
Then you know its too high? I'm sure you'll get someone just as good for less than half that amount.

groucho

12,134 posts

246 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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Is he on a price or day work? If you accept price then time taken should be irrelevant, within reason. Did he say that it would take four days? Perhaps he has somebody else that helps him.

When I get asked how long a job will take I would say a week for example. Doesn't mean I would be doing it myself and I wouldn't say to the customer that other people would be with me.


AndyHCZ

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171 posts

119 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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He works on his own. We discussed how long it would take him as I've had to organise some storage etc. and need to move everything back in.

The two other guys I had to have a look also normally quote on a sqm basis. They are getting back to me over the next day or two.

I had some exterior tiling done last year, but this can't have been on a sqm rate.