The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 9]

The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 9]

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m3sye

26,231 posts

201 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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DSLiverpool said:
Saddens me the football gravy train that rewards failure at every level - not many industries do that , the guys who award the contracts do it on the basis they enjoy similar "perks" and the gravy train continues.

How can it be right that you can't afford to sack a failing worker
Been sayin this for years! Madness
Should be caveats in there contracts

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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m3sye said:
DSLiverpool said:
Saddens me the football gravy train that rewards failure at every level - not many industries do that , the guys who award the contracts do it on the basis they enjoy similar "perks" and the gravy train continues.

How can it be right that you can't afford to sack a failing worker
Been sayin this for years! Madness
Should be caveats in there contracts
Considering how hot FSG are on performance based contracts, I'd be amazed if we'd have to pay out his full contract if he was to miss certain targets and got the sack.

But then this is the nature of the beast. Had he won the PL last season and Barcelona had come calling then that contract is our only piece of defence in getting some compensation. Can't have it both ways, especially when these contracts will be penned/overseen by lawyers probably making the same sort of salaries as BR!

revrange

1,182 posts

184 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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m3sye said:
Yeah Paul was ready to kill himself the other day when he wrote that, but it balanced, unlike many others.

The reality is that as BR can't take all the flack. He didn't want Balo, said as much, be we signed him.

He wanted Williams at centre back to provide leadership, instead we got Sakhon.Migonlet wasn't first choice, he wanted keep who can kick the ball.
(although he had the perfect keeper in Renia for this - sold on the cheap)
That all said he does shoulder some blame, and certainly could keep his gob shut a bit more.

NRS

22,143 posts

201 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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mickk said:
'Look at Tottenham. If you spend more than £100million, you expect to be challenging for the league.' (Liverpool spent £113m in the summer of 2014)
To be fair he is challenging - just not very well!

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Certainly been very challenging to watch.

Pommygranite

14,249 posts

216 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Funny old world aint it - we've been mediocre for so long, BR comes in and gives us a taste above our station and when it cant be maintained and we return to mediocrity we want to burn him wink


DSLiverpool

14,741 posts

202 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Pommygranite said:
Funny old world aint it - we've been mediocre for so long, BR comes in and gives us a taste above our station and when it cant be maintained and we return to mediocrity we want to burn him wink
This is a new level of mediocrity were spcertainly hitting the highs and lows of the football experience

Pommygranite

14,249 posts

216 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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DSLiverpool said:
Pommygranite said:
Funny old world aint it - we've been mediocre for so long, BR comes in and gives us a taste above our station and when it cant be maintained and we return to mediocrity we want to burn him wink
This is a new level of mediocrity were spcertainly hitting the highs and lows of the football experience
What highs?.... laugh



RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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I can't stand him. Wonder what'll happen if Stoke beat us at the weekend? How long can this be allowed to continue? He hasn't got the bottle to drop Gerrard. At least that would have us not being over run by the likes of Palace.

Pommygranite

14,249 posts

216 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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RedTrident said:
I can't stand him. Wonder what'll happen if Stoke beat us at the weekend? How long can this be allowed to continue? He hasn't got the bottle to drop Gerrard. At least that would have us not being over run by the likes of Palace.
Why cant you stand him? Putting aside the current slump, he did take us to a point that none of us have seen (2005 apart) in the last 20+ years.


Flip Martian

19,654 posts

190 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Pommygranite said:
Why cant you stand him? Putting aside the current slump, he did take us to a point that none of us have seen (2005 and 2009 apart) in the last 20+ years.
Edited for accuracy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%9309_Liver...

Edited by Flip Martian on Tuesday 25th November 09:12

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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RedTrident said:
I can't stand him.
Why didn't you say something earlier?



Black can man

31,838 posts

168 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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desolate said:
RedTrident said:
I can't stand him.
Why didn't you say something earlier?
laugh

RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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See the tide turning BCM? Plenty been said on the last few pages that only pick up on my past observations smile

I wonder whose names are in the envelopes?

DSLiverpool

14,741 posts

202 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Not sure about not standing him RT, Im sure he is a good crack on a night out all those tales to tell of daring and insight. Sys observation that we cant afford to sack him is sadly very true, we may be able to financially afford to but within the FFP it may well have a detrimental effect.

Sooooo Wednesday then, two things will happen, we will win after the players are galvanised after the press accusing them of being the worst performing team in years (I wish Djimi would go on record as saying that, and Phil Babb slating Lovren would be class) and tear Ludo a new goal net or will we capitulate in the belief the fat lady is nearly singing and they are close to getting a new boss that I can only assume most of them want - if this is the case Bren must have really pissed them off and not just the Real Madrid game it must be other stuff as well, having favourites maybe, being too close to certain failing players maybe etc etc.

From the very very high to the very very low in less than a year - Christ.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

235 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Pommygranite said:
RedTrident said:
I can't stand him. Wonder what'll happen if Stoke beat us at the weekend? How long can this be allowed to continue? He hasn't got the bottle to drop Gerrard. At least that would have us not being over run by the likes of Palace.
Why cant you stand him? Putting aside the current slump, he did take us to a point that none of us have seen (2005 apart) in the last 20+ years.
I've said before, and you have every right to hold a different opinion, that it was Suarez who was much more responsible for last season than Bodge. If Bodge had done his job we wouldn't have conceded so many goals.

As for why I can't stand him, because I think he is a fraud, making it up as he is going along at best. The bks that comes out of his mouth, his 3 envelopes, his weak leadership and his closeness with some players all factor in too. Probably what I dislike off pitch the most is the lifestyle he represents. If he was successful he'd get away with it, but he isn't.

All of that is before his complete tactical ineptness on the football pitch. Last season was the blip. This is the real Brendan Rodgers. Weak defence, sideways passing midfield and a front line of strikers that are 75% low table turd.

He's had his moment in the sun. Last season was the pinnacle of his career. Get rid of him and give someone the rest of this season to rebuild and push on from there. Rafa, Klopp or Simone have forgotten more than Bodge has ever known or ever will know.


Flip Martian

19,654 posts

190 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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RedTrident said:
The bks that comes out of his mouth, his 3 envelopes, his weak leadership and his closeness with some players all factor in too. Probably what I dislike off pitch the most is the lifestyle he represents. If he was successful he'd get away with it, but he isn't.
That sums my feelings up as we struggle on week after week with no change. No sign of improvement and these things bug me more and more.

DSLiverpool

14,741 posts

202 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Didn't it all start to fail when "The Watch" was worn? maybe its cursed, torn from the grasp of a dying spurs supporter forever tainted with abject failure. Or was it before then biggrin

Pommygranite

14,249 posts

216 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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RedTrident said:
Pommygranite said:
RedTrident said:
I can't stand him. Wonder what'll happen if Stoke beat us at the weekend? How long can this be allowed to continue? He hasn't got the bottle to drop Gerrard. At least that would have us not being over run by the likes of Palace.
Why cant you stand him? Putting aside the current slump, he did take us to a point that none of us have seen (2005 apart) in the last 20+ years.
I've said before, and you have every right to hold a different opinion, that it was Suarez who was much more responsible for last season than Bodge. If Bodge had done his job we wouldn't have conceded so many goals.

As for why I can't stand him, because I think he is a fraud, making it up as he is going along at best. The bks that comes out of his mouth, his 3 envelopes, his weak leadership and his closeness with some players all factor in too. Probably what I dislike off pitch the most is the lifestyle he represents. If he was successful he'd get away with it, but he isn't.

All of that is before his complete tactical ineptness on the football pitch. Last season was the blip. This is the real Brendan Rodgers. Weak defence, sideways passing midfield and a front line of strikers that are 75% low table turd.

He's had his moment in the sun. Last season was the pinnacle of his career. Get rid of him and give someone the rest of this season to rebuild and push on from there. Rafa, Klopp or Simone have forgotten more than Bodge has ever known or ever will know.

Whilst I don't necessarily disagree with your underlying point I have an issue where the players get all the praise when we win and the manager gets all the criticism when we lose.

Frankly our players have been shocking this year and deserve as much criticism as BR.



cerb4.5lee

30,534 posts

180 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Flip Martian said:
RedTrident said:
The bks that comes out of his mouth, his 3 envelopes, his weak leadership and his closeness with some players all factor in too. Probably what I dislike off pitch the most is the lifestyle he represents. If he was successful he'd get away with it, but he isn't.
That sums my feelings up as we struggle on week after week with no change. No sign of improvement and these things bug me more and more.
If you remember he was like this at the start of his reign he would win a match then say the team were world beaters in the interview after only for us to lose the next game badly and I just wished he kept his mouth shut rather than talk rubbish and let the players do the talking for him...

Only trouble is now he has no chance of doing that as the team just don't play for him anymore.
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