S Type 2002 onward Premium Sound Retrofit
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Just incase it helps anyone on here, this is the how to. Part 1
SO I own an S type R. Only thing is, like many it doesn't have the Jaguar / Alpine Premium sound, as as such the sound system isn't the best.
I had always wanted to retro fit premium, with second hand parts from scrapped cars being so cheap, it seemed achievable. But having seen a few how to's on the jaguar forum, where a number of people who have done it on X types, I couldn't be bothered to make up a harness and run wires to the door speaker and to the boot for the amp so shelved the idea.
When doing some other work on the car, I found the wiring for the amp was already in the boot taped up to the rest of the harness.
So I took a door card off and hay presto wiring for the speakers is there as well. No need to make up a harness and run it the length of the car and to each door, result.
So the eBay stalking began. After about 4 weeks, I had a set of 4 door speakers for £44, an Amp for £72 and a pair of woofers for £35. Not bad at all.
Here is what I got
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361086624720
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301099861386
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361086624720
There are more out there right now, but it takes some searching and waiting to get all the bits together, had a quick look come up with this lot on eBay now.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301099861386 - amp
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAGUAR-S-TYPE-2-7-04-X35... - woofers you will need two of these, X350 and S type are the same.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAGUAR-S-TYPE-PREMIUM-SO... - Door speaker you will need 4. X350 and X type are not the same as S Type so make sure they look like the ones in the picture.
Then came fitting, door speakers couldn't have been simpler. Door card off, remove the two hidden screws bellow the rubber trim in the pull shut area.
Then use a plastic trim tool to press the interior door open handle surround off. The handle its self stays where it is.
Then pull the door trim off again a plastic trim tool helps overcome the snap fit slips without marking the panel.
Once off you can remove the standard speaker.
Wiring for these are in the wet side of the door behind the speak. Once removed the nice "Ford Motor co" speaker looks like this.
The harness for the new speaker is taped up and covered in foam, just pull the foam back a bit and cut the tape, fit your alpine speaker and plug in. Repeat exactly the same procedure with all 4 doors. Took me an hour with a cup of tea.
Then I needed to fit the amp, I kinda forgot to take enough pics here, but It goes on top of the Nav Unit/ CD changer stack regardless of what you have fitted the metal stack braket should always be there, I have Nav but no CD changer. Once fitted and the LH boot trim put back, it looks like this.
The two grey connectors plug in the back of it, as soon as you plug them in and the fibre optic cable, the head unit will have the extra functions DSP, subwoofer levels and higher volume controll 35 instead of 25 I think.
Only thing I forgot was the fibre optic cable, I actually made one with the bits from my car, It appears mine had a CD changer when new, but a few year later the MP3 / Ipod Jaguar ACM was fitted, so where the CD changer should have been plugged in, a loop lead was added, I just had to change the female end to a male end and swap the in and outs round. This wont always be the case, and normally an extra link lead is needed.
Somthing like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-JAGUAR-LINK-LEAD-FIB...
It doesn't matter in what order the modules are connected, so just do it how the cables reach the best, if you have to modify the cables, just remember each module has and in and an out, and the out of the first module goes to the in of the next to continue the loop.
With the white protective cover pushes back you can see the connector 2 out arround and connector 1 in arrow.
The subs require the rear parcel sheft removing, will get that writen up with pics in a few weeks.
Hope this was helpful and or interesting to you guys.
TT
SO I own an S type R. Only thing is, like many it doesn't have the Jaguar / Alpine Premium sound, as as such the sound system isn't the best.
I had always wanted to retro fit premium, with second hand parts from scrapped cars being so cheap, it seemed achievable. But having seen a few how to's on the jaguar forum, where a number of people who have done it on X types, I couldn't be bothered to make up a harness and run wires to the door speaker and to the boot for the amp so shelved the idea.
When doing some other work on the car, I found the wiring for the amp was already in the boot taped up to the rest of the harness.
So I took a door card off and hay presto wiring for the speakers is there as well. No need to make up a harness and run it the length of the car and to each door, result.
So the eBay stalking began. After about 4 weeks, I had a set of 4 door speakers for £44, an Amp for £72 and a pair of woofers for £35. Not bad at all.
Here is what I got
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361086624720
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301099861386
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/361086624720
There are more out there right now, but it takes some searching and waiting to get all the bits together, had a quick look come up with this lot on eBay now.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301099861386 - amp
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAGUAR-S-TYPE-2-7-04-X35... - woofers you will need two of these, X350 and S type are the same.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAGUAR-S-TYPE-PREMIUM-SO... - Door speaker you will need 4. X350 and X type are not the same as S Type so make sure they look like the ones in the picture.
Then came fitting, door speakers couldn't have been simpler. Door card off, remove the two hidden screws bellow the rubber trim in the pull shut area.
Then use a plastic trim tool to press the interior door open handle surround off. The handle its self stays where it is.
Then pull the door trim off again a plastic trim tool helps overcome the snap fit slips without marking the panel.
Once off you can remove the standard speaker.
Wiring for these are in the wet side of the door behind the speak. Once removed the nice "Ford Motor co" speaker looks like this.
The harness for the new speaker is taped up and covered in foam, just pull the foam back a bit and cut the tape, fit your alpine speaker and plug in. Repeat exactly the same procedure with all 4 doors. Took me an hour with a cup of tea.
Then I needed to fit the amp, I kinda forgot to take enough pics here, but It goes on top of the Nav Unit/ CD changer stack regardless of what you have fitted the metal stack braket should always be there, I have Nav but no CD changer. Once fitted and the LH boot trim put back, it looks like this.
The two grey connectors plug in the back of it, as soon as you plug them in and the fibre optic cable, the head unit will have the extra functions DSP, subwoofer levels and higher volume controll 35 instead of 25 I think.
Only thing I forgot was the fibre optic cable, I actually made one with the bits from my car, It appears mine had a CD changer when new, but a few year later the MP3 / Ipod Jaguar ACM was fitted, so where the CD changer should have been plugged in, a loop lead was added, I just had to change the female end to a male end and swap the in and outs round. This wont always be the case, and normally an extra link lead is needed.
Somthing like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-JAGUAR-LINK-LEAD-FIB...
It doesn't matter in what order the modules are connected, so just do it how the cables reach the best, if you have to modify the cables, just remember each module has and in and an out, and the out of the first module goes to the in of the next to continue the loop.
With the white protective cover pushes back you can see the connector 2 out arround and connector 1 in arrow.
The subs require the rear parcel sheft removing, will get that writen up with pics in a few weeks.
Hope this was helpful and or interesting to you guys.
TT
Don't have an S Type, but still pretty interesting as I was idly pondering the other day what stereo set up I had in my XJ and whether it was possible to do a retro-fit.
And bravo for having the patience to take photos and doing the write up - whenever I've thought about doing any sort of 'how to' write up I end up just getting stuck in and forget to take photos, which are the most useful bit.
And bravo for having the patience to take photos and doing the write up - whenever I've thought about doing any sort of 'how to' write up I end up just getting stuck in and forget to take photos, which are the most useful bit.
Purely for test purposes you can unplug the CD changer and plug its connector into the amp to make sure everything works, check the amp isnt a duffer. Obviously the speakers needed to be wired up fisrt.
Take the a good look at what you have, just incase like mine there is already enough connections to complete the loop, and you can just move stuff arround.
But more likely you will need somthing like this, One connector that goes back to the front of the car, one for BTphone, one for CD one for NAV and one for the AMP.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-S-type-D2b-Optica...
Take the a good look at what you have, just incase like mine there is already enough connections to complete the loop, and you can just move stuff arround.
But more likely you will need somthing like this, One connector that goes back to the front of the car, one for BTphone, one for CD one for NAV and one for the AMP.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-S-type-D2b-Optica...
Edited by Tame Technician on Monday 17th November 22:46
Holy thread resurrection Bat Man.
Im trying to do this in my 2004 My S Type R.
Have removed the old head unit and sat nav screen from my previous S type ( 2002.5 ) where it was all working fine.
I have changed head unit and complete sat nav cd changer and amin the boot, i have not changed the speakers yet, but if i turn the volume up from zero to 1 the sound is deafening.
Did you do it as one complete job ? Could it be that the speakers are different impudence ( ??) and i need to do it all. Interestingly my old car has all the wores behind the audio unit, ie the standard speaker wires.
I know it was a while ago but maybe you can rack your brains. Thanks
Im trying to do this in my 2004 My S Type R.
Have removed the old head unit and sat nav screen from my previous S type ( 2002.5 ) where it was all working fine.
I have changed head unit and complete sat nav cd changer and amin the boot, i have not changed the speakers yet, but if i turn the volume up from zero to 1 the sound is deafening.
Did you do it as one complete job ? Could it be that the speakers are different impudence ( ??) and i need to do it all. Interestingly my old car has all the wores behind the audio unit, ie the standard speaker wires.
I know it was a while ago but maybe you can rack your brains. Thanks
Hello,
I have the new premium speakers which I shall install.
And also have the big box with two speakers on the back of the car
I saw all wiring is there? Buy on the picture I don't see a connector with 6 connectors what's on my Soundboard. Is it all there ?
Didn't look in my car so far
I have the new premium speakers which I shall install.
And also have the big box with two speakers on the back of the car
I saw all wiring is there? Buy on the picture I don't see a connector with 6 connectors what's on my Soundboard. Is it all there ?
Didn't look in my car so far
Edited by Markv70 on Sunday 17th February 11:48
Hello,
my name is Daniel. I'm from Germany and I have the same problem with the Volume since I installed the amp in my 2006 S Type R non Premium Sound Jag. Could you solve it by changing the Basic Sound speakers to the Premium Sound Alpines or is there another way?
Thank you very much.
Greetings from Germany
my name is Daniel. I'm from Germany and I have the same problem with the Volume since I installed the amp in my 2006 S Type R non Premium Sound Jag. Could you solve it by changing the Basic Sound speakers to the Premium Sound Alpines or is there another way?
Thank you very much.
Greetings from Germany
melhookv12 said:
Holy thread resurrection
Bat Man.
Im trying to do this in my 2004 My S Type R.
Have removed the old head unit and sat nav screen from my previous S type ( 2002.5 ) where it was all working fine.
I have changed head unit and complete sat nav cd changer and amin the boot, i have not changed the speakers yet, but if i turn the volume up from zero to 1 the sound is deafening.
Did you do it as one complete job ? Could it be that the speakers are different impudence ( ??) and i need to do it all. Interestingly my old car has all the wores behind the audio unit, ie the standard speaker wires.
I know it was a while ago but maybe you can rack your brains. Thanks
Bat Man.
Im trying to do this in my 2004 My S Type R.
Have removed the old head unit and sat nav screen from my previous S type ( 2002.5 ) where it was all working fine.
I have changed head unit and complete sat nav cd changer and amin the boot, i have not changed the speakers yet, but if i turn the volume up from zero to 1 the sound is deafening.
Did you do it as one complete job ? Could it be that the speakers are different impudence ( ??) and i need to do it all. Interestingly my old car has all the wores behind the audio unit, ie the standard speaker wires.
I know it was a while ago but maybe you can rack your brains. Thanks
kyeoktooki said:
I have the same problem with the Volume since I installed the amp in my 2006 S Type R non Premium Sound Jag. Could you solve it by changing the Basic Sound speakers to the Premium Sound Alpines or is there another way?
With the Standard audio system the speakers are wired directly to the CD player which has an integrated amplifier. With the Alpine system the speakers are wired to the separate amplifier instead.There is a strange quirk in that if you still have speakers connected to the CD players integrated amplifier but also have the Premium Amp on the D2B bus, the CD player amplifier outputs at max volume at any level above 0.
So, you need to make sure that your speakers are disconnected from the 'Standard' wiring loom, and connected instead to the wiring of the Premium Amp. I'm not sure if the connectors are the same and whether you can just swap the connectors over at the speakers, or whether the Premium speakers have a different type of connector.
Hi to all....Is there anyone still here?
Going through the motions here with Jaguar Retro fit Premium amp and speakers to a 2007 S-type 2.7.
Alpine amp fitted.
Alpine speakers on way.
Bass speakers on way.
This was a gem of find indeed and thanks to the originator for the great work.
I too got the volume zero to bleeding ears syndrome and thought I had made a mistake connecting the amp. Thankfully your blog explains why and now waiting for the correct speakers to connect to separate part of the harness as described. All plugs in the harness are present. Bonus.
Only question is the opto cable thing. I don't quite understand. I get it must be a loop but discovered on the side of the Sat Nav cd drive that the amp now sits on there is a white and black opto socket without a link in the top?
The opto cable that was wrapped in the look is now plugged into the amp or is this a school boy error and it should go into that spare or do I need another 'coupler'?
Thanks in advance and hope some one can help.
Cheers to all...
Peter - Wigan
Going through the motions here with Jaguar Retro fit Premium amp and speakers to a 2007 S-type 2.7.
Alpine amp fitted.
Alpine speakers on way.
Bass speakers on way.
This was a gem of find indeed and thanks to the originator for the great work.
I too got the volume zero to bleeding ears syndrome and thought I had made a mistake connecting the amp. Thankfully your blog explains why and now waiting for the correct speakers to connect to separate part of the harness as described. All plugs in the harness are present. Bonus.
Only question is the opto cable thing. I don't quite understand. I get it must be a loop but discovered on the side of the Sat Nav cd drive that the amp now sits on there is a white and black opto socket without a link in the top?
The opto cable that was wrapped in the look is now plugged into the amp or is this a school boy error and it should go into that spare or do I need another 'coupler'?
Thanks in advance and hope some one can help.
Cheers to all...
Peter - Wigan
Hi again to All.... If anyone is still here?
Ok so cracked on with the above premium install on S-Type 3.7 SE with Sat Nav & CD but not cd changer.
All as planned and it appears no optic link required.
Door speakers in and the new speakers came with a Plug tidy to hold the old plugs... How thoughtful.
All connected with ease except the two way optic plug into the premium amp. The plug would not stay in position after unwrapping it from the loom. Turns out the detent spigot or retention clip was deformed from being taped up too tightly. A gentle pry up with a screwdriver and reinsert into the amp to hear it click.
Sound is A1 and that's without the 2 rear parcel shelf subwoofers installed... That's tomorrow's job along with a devoted thorough clay then waxing jobby.
Will report back....
Also for anyone struggling with the refit of the overhead light unit...I have a cunning plan for you that worked like a dream....
Till tomorrow..
Cheers
Peter... Wigan
Ok so cracked on with the above premium install on S-Type 3.7 SE with Sat Nav & CD but not cd changer.
All as planned and it appears no optic link required.
Door speakers in and the new speakers came with a Plug tidy to hold the old plugs... How thoughtful.
All connected with ease except the two way optic plug into the premium amp. The plug would not stay in position after unwrapping it from the loom. Turns out the detent spigot or retention clip was deformed from being taped up too tightly. A gentle pry up with a screwdriver and reinsert into the amp to hear it click.
Sound is A1 and that's without the 2 rear parcel shelf subwoofers installed... That's tomorrow's job along with a devoted thorough clay then waxing jobby.
Will report back....
Also for anyone struggling with the refit of the overhead light unit...I have a cunning plan for you that worked like a dream....
Till tomorrow..
Cheers
Peter... Wigan
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